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Hello guys

I was thinking of making a chinese nuker. I don't want to have too many gaps while leveling so i'll keep it to 2 trees only.

I am sure that one of them will be heuksal, but i am not sure if i should take ice or lightning as my second tree. As a pure int, i have a feeling that i might die often with lightning. as a Pure Int ice, i can still do decent dmg but more defence than lightning.

Which one should i choose?

Please keep in mind that this is just for pve, i will farm to get other trees once i feel that i am high level enough.

You should really go for atleast 3 trees right now.
If you go:
Ice 90
Heuskal 90

You are going to be the weakest nuker alive. You have no dmg increasing buffs from fire or lightning. As it is ice imbue is weak and without those buffs it just gets worse.

If you go:
Light 90
Heuskal 90

No snow shield... Your going to die quickly. Damage output would be good but you lack defense or in other words easy kills.

The only way 2 skill tree is possible if:
Light 90
Ice 90

And even this is weak. You will have heavy dmg output and good defense. But you lack weapon skills creating no attacks to stop your enemy from attacking you. At this point you opponents could just constant kd or stun and wait till you run out of snow shield. In the end you come back to having no defense once more.

To avoid this:
90 Light
90 Ice
90 Heuskal

You dont need to bother farming fire to 30 saving you some sp farming. But in the end sp farming is a requirement for all characters.

First, thx for the reply!

I guess i will have to take 3 trees then. Any idea on how much gap i'll need? maybe 3-4?

as the cap is raised the game is more team dependant, ice will be absolute when faced with cleric buffs. With fire and lightening your a destruction machine with cleric buffs. This game is all about cleric buffs, chinese buffs are absolute...loosing that fire damage just gives a 2hs with mana shield a even easiler time 1hiting you.

so you recommend heuksal + fire + lightning?

but a nuker without snow shield = die very quick? I don't know, i am a noob, still trying to learn the game

i'd say lightning + ice
Ice is a must for the extra phy and mana shield

Lightning is ALSO a must for the magical dmg increase

If you only want to pve well, then just maxing light + at least 20 levels of ice (for the snow shield; invest some sp for a better snow shield, and freezing skills as you get extra sp) + use a sword and shield. You can just one or two gap all the way, and would have enough to level up important skills. However, your charachter would be hopeless in pvp.

I really suggest you to go lightning only. You won't need to sp farm and you will jump throw the levels really fast. Take Heuksal to lvl 20 and then lightning only. You will reach lvl 100 much faster then anyone else and a lvl 100 is stronger than a slow leveling blader who will be low level with same time to farm. Why lightning? Because you get the strong nukes which do good damage what means that you kill really fast. Also the lightning nukes have the transfer range distance effect, so you will be able to kill up to 3 mobs with one nuke instead of only one and this means almost 300% faster leveling than with any other nukes! If you are high level you may want to go pvp. For this you need cold for the snow shield because you will be able to tank all attacks for 120 seconds with snow shield! And for more skills you should also raise your heuksal level a bit. But at this time you will already be strong because of your high level. So go pure lightning with a bit heuksal (to lvl 20) first. It is the fastest lvling build.

5 gap.

If you got Heuskal/Light, since you don't want to farm, You'll be strong. But I suggest than, going a hybrid. You'll have more HP.

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This way you could just farm ice to 50 or 60.

He only wants 2 skill trees.

Hueskal+ Light

^ Heuskal+Light would be good dmg output. However since he wouldn't have snowshield he would be a pretty easy kill. He would need to brind the snow shield to a minimum of lvl 30 assuming he goes hybrid. If not he would need to bring it to atleast lvl 55-60. The farming for the ice wouldnt be so bad.

WoW! thanks for all the replies!

I decided that i will level heuksal to 20, then ice to 20-30ish then lightning only until i am high level.
I'll will then farm for heuksal and ice when i need it for PvP.

I am guessing that i need to have 4-5 gaps until 20, 3gaps until 30, then 1 gap all the way?

when the time comes to only 2 trees, an int with no shield will die no matter if they had ice or no ice.

aren't you guys forgetting that he can farm at lvl 64 cave? in earth ghosts? if you only want 2 trees go heuskal lvl 20 light at ur lvl till 64 then farm there to get ur skills straight together, with lighting at ur lvl you will have a fair and good dmg, you kill mobs 1-2lvls above u with 1nuke and if necessary one lion shout you dont have to avoid champions because of passive of heuskal but you can't kill many monster at 1 time, also try not to fight giants all the time you see one, if he's surrounded by mobs lighting nuke will just get them near you and you will die, if you go pure int, i have a lvl 56 pure int nuker and i only trained so far fire and light and 20cold and works well for me i can kill mobs champs and giants 2-3lvls above me and i have no weapon tree and i pvp fairly well(i'll farm later at lvl 64) i kill mobs with 1 nuke and giants arent a problem i can be fighting multiple mobs at one time so you do watever u want with our advices but i would tell you to consider mine opinion

Fighting mobs and pvping are too completely different things. You cant compare the two. Killing another player and a mob have completely two different challenges. One requires skill and the other requires clicking buttons and targeting. Moreover pvp doesnt really matter till at least lvl 57. Until that point people dont get str 55 int 55 gear.

Why dont you just make an euro ... they are shitloads of stronger and have lots less sp to farm ...

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i tried making a wizzard, but for some reason, i like chinese nuker better

i'd say spear+light for damage and reasonable defence. spear for the HP passive only. but you are not really gonna use spear during pve. you would probably survive better in pve combats using sword/shield.

light+cold is good too. perhaps cold imbue to survive better in pve.

either way, you should end up at level caps eventually needing to farm your 3rd tree for spear+light+cold. but i guess leveling faster with only 2 trees (with ~2-3 gaps) can be more attractive to certain players than farming sp hardcore with 9gaps.

Ice is good but you have to give up your damage for more defence and grinding at low levels when you dont have a nuke will really piss you off because you do low damage but my friend has a ice nuker and its pretty good so your choice

the 20 heuk is a decent idea. i think you'd benefit more from 20 heuk, 30 ice, and mantaining fire and light. strongest nukes and since at low lvls with only one shout, you will need to wait for cooldown. o and ice for imbue to make pve easier

yeah, i am still not too sure which imbue to use, Ice for more defence or lightning for more dmg?

Ice imbue is weaker
Lightning imbue is stronger

Ice imbue can freeze and give frostbite to people. However closer to cap people tend to be immune to it.

Lightning imbue can transfer damage from one person to the one standing to him as well as effects such as stun etc...

ya but for pve ice slows down mobs. and since some of the stronger nukes are aoe, you may be able to kill the one you targetted, but the transfer agros more mobs. with ice you have a chance of freezing or slowing them so you have more time to kill them and take less dmg

Is there really that much dmg difference between light and cold? i was looking at one of the sites, and i was calculating the average damager difference between light and cold at level 30.
surprisingly, the average is barely different(maybe 8 dmg or so) But this is theory craft, hows the dmg for ice?

Go heuksal/lightning
Its my build
And no, I don't die quickly, I can take on penons at 50. And I have no problem fighting Ishades/Hashades with my armor, With the heuksal passive, I have 2.5khp, thats enough when Penons hit 800 on me.
And you get grass flow walk/concentration/piercing force.

Yes there is a much greater dmg difference than 8. The dmg difference is well is the 100s. I know fire and light at the same lvl have a 200-300 dmg difference. So ice is probably a little bit less that with lightning.



Grr....Grinding and pvping are too completely different things. Being good at grinding is nothing special because mobs dont do much dmg when your attacking one at a time. First get a good 7-10 mobs on you then attack them back to make things interesting. As for pvp...pvp some glaiver, blader or archer your lvl and see how well you do. Without the snow shield you really cant do much, only dish out dmg that you cant take in.