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huejas
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Post subject: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:53 pm |
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Hmmm, still not decided on what build i should do at 90 Cap for my pure str bower Well first i thought id go 90 Bow/Fire/Light and 30 Cold. Then changed my mind to 90 Bow/Fire and 60 Cold/Light. But now im thinking about 90 Bow/Fire/Cold and 30 Light. Im not doing the first build, cant decide between the last 2... Discuss 
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:04 pm |
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Go with 60 light/60 ice IMO. Since you don't want all that speed at 90. As an archer you want speed, + lvl 30 speed isn't going to cut it. Your going to get outrun by everyone.
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:11 pm |
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i choosed 60 ice and 60 light. but i find 30 ice and 90 light better imo if you dont mind farming i guess. since you get more speed, mag attake buff that helps a little, and parry ratio. having 60 ice for a pure str is pointless imo cant use 40% snow.... doesnt need phy def since your pure str....
and if your gona be here during 100 cap 100 bow 100 fire 100 light is the best imo
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:13 pm |
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RogueKiller wrote: Go with 60 light/60 ice IMO. Since you don't want all that speed at 90. As an archer you want speed, + lvl 30 speed isn't going to cut it. Your going to get outrun by everyone. What about using Speed drugs while jobbing? I have a friend from japan, and it looks like that there some/most bowers are with Fire/Cold (im not sure, would need confirmation).
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huejas
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:18 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: RogueKiller wrote: Go with 60 light/60 ice IMO. Since you don't want all that speed at 90. As an archer you want speed, + lvl 30 speed isn't going to cut it. Your going to get outrun by everyone. What about using Speed drugs while jobbing? I have a friend from japan, and it looks like that there some/most bowers are with Fire/Cold (im not sure, would need confirmation). thats what i was going to do ALSO added 90 Bow/Fire/Light & 30 Ice to poll
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:20 pm |
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huejas wrote: raphaell666 wrote: RogueKiller wrote: Go with 60 light/60 ice IMO. Since you don't want all that speed at 90. As an archer you want speed, + lvl 30 speed isn't going to cut it. Your going to get outrun by everyone. What about using Speed drugs while jobbing? I have a friend from japan, and it looks like that there some/most bowers are with Fire/Cold (im not sure, would need confirmation). thats what i was going to do ALSO added 90 Bow/Fire/Light & 30 Ice to poll gahhh i hate you -.- i wouldve voted on 30 ice and 90 bow/fire/light great you made me waste 1 vote XD
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huejas
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:29 pm |
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alcoholic wrote: gahhh i hate you -.- i wouldve voted on 30 ice and 90 bow/fire/light great you made me waste 1 vote XD i put on re-vote, change yur vote and tell me when yu doen so i can switch it back
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alcoholic
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:30 pm |
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i really hate myself i voted the wrong one -.-
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:31 pm |
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@TopicStarter I think you should make the poll able to be revoted, because as this will be mainly a discussion, a lot of ppl might change their ideas about the matter. Just my opinion anyways.
About 90fire/cold, you would be losing some mag atk from not taking light, but I really cant tell if that would mean a lot, because you are a full str anyways. You would lose the capacity of using ghost walk, but I dont know if you would really need to use it, because you would have some tanking abilities with ice+fire.
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huejas
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:31 pm |
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huejas wrote: alcoholic wrote: gahhh i hate you -.- i wouldve voted on 30 ice and 90 bow/fire/light great you made me waste 1 vote XD i put on re-vote, change yur vote and tell me when yu doen so i can switch it back great i reset the poll EVERYONE RE-VOTE PLEASE!
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huejas
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:33 pm |
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raphaell666 wrote: @TopicStarter I think you should make the poll able to be revoted, because as this will be malinly a discussion, a lot of ppl might change their ideas about the matter. Just my opinion anyways.
About 90fire/cold, you would be losing some mag atk from not taking light, but I really cant tell if that would mean a lot, because you are a full str anyways. You would lose the capacity of using ghost walk, but I dont know if you would really need to use it, because you would have some tanking abilities with ice+fire. okay done, il leave it on revote alcoholic wrote: i really hate myself i voted the wrong one -.- re-vote again 
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:33 pm |
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calm down i revoted
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huejas
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:34 pm |
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alcoholic wrote: calm down i revoted lol now discuss why yu say 90 light 30 ice 
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:35 pm |
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huejas wrote: alcoholic wrote: calm down i revoted lol now discuss why yu say 90 light 30 ice  i told you already look at my other reply -.- i dont feel like typing anymore... alcoholic wrote: having 60 ice for a pure str is pointless imo cant use 40% snow.... doesnt need phy def since your pure str....
alot of people say well bowmans are long distance you dont need light there forgot about the fact that bowman are defetable when your in a jobwar or fortress or watever and they all mob at you you will need light to phantom your ass away for your pots to heal you.
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:47 pm |
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huejas wrote: but look....90 light vs 60 light: -only 13 parry difference -only 3% mag atk difference -phantom 4m difference -and the biggest difference is grass walk which is 59% at lv.60 and 77% at 90...but i dont mind using 100% speed pot well this does kinda depend on if your gona play after 100 cap. anways uhh... 4m phantom is a a bigg difference imo. since you put it that way... i guess 60 light might be better then 90 light... but why do you need 60 ice anyways?? you have enought phy def being pure str and 30 ice... and 60 ice you cant use high snow sheild anyways.... and having 90 light could help you train when monsters are in a group use lightning imbue 
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:52 pm |
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alcoholic wrote: huejas wrote: but look....90 light vs 60 light: -only 13 parry difference -only 3% mag atk difference -phantom 4m difference -and the biggest difference is grass walk which is 59% at lv.60 and 77% at 90...but i dont mind using 100% speed pot well this does kinda depend on if your gona play after 100 cap. anways uhh... 4m phantom is a a bigg difference imo. since you put it that way... i guess 60 light might be better then 90 light... but why do you need 60 ice anyways?? you have enought phy def being pure str and 30 ice... and 60 ice you cant use high snow sheild anyways.... and having 90 light could help you train when monsters are in a group use lightning imbue  lol dude, lets look at 100 cap: -parry goes up by another 5 -mag buff stays the same -phantom goes from 23m to 23.5m -_- -grass walk stays the same if im gonna do 60 light i might as well take ice to 60, the extra def always helps and il use like 35% snow sometimes if i need it at 100 cap this is were i would bring the ice down to lv.40, and keep light at 60 
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:58 pm |
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huejas wrote: alcoholic wrote: huejas wrote: but look....90 light vs 60 light: -only 13 parry difference -only 3% mag atk difference -phantom 4m difference -and the biggest difference is grass walk which is 59% at lv.60 and 77% at 90...but i dont mind using 100% speed pot well this does kinda depend on if your gona play after 100 cap. anways uhh... 4m phantom is a a bigg difference imo. since you put it that way... i guess 60 light might be better then 90 light... but why do you need 60 ice anyways?? you have enought phy def being pure str and 30 ice... and 60 ice you cant use high snow sheild anyways.... and having 90 light could help you train when monsters are in a group use lightning imbue  lol dude, lets look at 100 cap: -parry goes up by another 5 -mag buff stays the same -phantom goes from 23m to 23.5m -_- -grass walk stays the same if im gonna do 60 light i might as well take ice to 60, the extra def always helps and il use like 35% snow sometimes if i need it at 100 cap this is were i would bring the ice down to lv.40, and keep light at 60  i hate you youve proved me wrong *sigh* having 60 light is not a huge diff from 90 light. can i recast my vote XD this is off topic but how do u get the sig for the skill bars?
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:04 pm |
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alcoholic wrote: i hate you youve proved me wrong *sigh* having 60 light is not a huge diff from 90 light. can i recast my vote XD this is off topic but how do u get the sig for the skill bars? hehe, yu got owned heres were i got the icons: http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... llsvv2.jpg
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:54 am |
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I Voted 60 light/ice People often say, you are full str, why need more phy defense from ice? Well, try pvp with euro warrior or rogue and you will see why. Their godly crits do own ur @ss, believe it or not. Beside, 60ice/ light for now is a very good option incase u decide to change your mind later on, you dont have to waste alot of gold and sp to delvl either one and max the other. So yea, 60light, 60 ice imo 
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:19 am |
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could go 70 light/50 ice...
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Post subject: Re: Bow @ 90 CAP : 60 Ice/Light or 90 Ice/30 Light Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:56 pm |
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Well, I always thought that a str build would be best 90 weapon/ fire/ light, but recently after reading a large thread at 0x33 - from people who have played 100 cap in some kind of test server (ksro?) - I think ice is much better than fire. The 100 fire/ ice/ weapon build seemed to be the best choice.
If you're looking for a pure pvp / gw build (where you don't have to move alot) take 90 ice. (grinding will be a bitch though imo)
If you want a good balance of speed and defense, 60 ice/ 60 light
90 light is just.. meh. not worth the SP for a str.
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