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 Post subject: ok I'm really really confuse =(
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:01 am 
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Ok I want to be a magic killer Chinese. Um which is better bicheon,ice,thunder or ice,thunder,fire? Well um I read this info that force nuker good at war and gruop war but with tree skill nuker are good at 1vs1 ?? And idk what to choose I'm so confuse. Should I choose. Force nuker or tree nuker? I like being a nuker becuz of dealing high damages but since I read something new now I'm confuse. Which better force nuker or tree skill nuker? Becuz I dont wanna be called noob when someone pwn me in 1vs1 or group wars. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:51 am 
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Well, i'm not necessarily sure.I guess getting bicheon is a more defensive approach, whereas a force nuker focuses more on damage.

I'm working on a force nuker at the moment, just to be unique.It's hard to really say how well they do, because hardly anyone has seen them fight, or if they have, they didn't see them fight very well.

So basically go weapon nuker if you want a build that's been tried, and came out with decent results.Go force nuker if you want an experimental character, but expect failure, or at least a character that won't meet your standards.


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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:56 am 
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nuke after nuke will blow
they will just either knock down, stun knock back till i die
u wont be able to charge up 2 nukes in a row


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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:57 am 
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Hmm that doesnt help but I'm still confuse


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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
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well since this is your first build, i say go with the regular bicheon/light/ice nuker. so 90bicheon(orheuksal..up to you)90light90ice.

it's a good build for regular grinding and if you have your snow shield (ice buff) up and your bicheon buff up (defends against physical attacks), you will do very good in pvp and group wars too.

don't worry and have fun with your build :D

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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:15 am 
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thanks now that's the answer I. Needed =)


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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:39 am 
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Ok, Ill post a bit differently. Note that I am only answering based on other people's opinions and discussed theories since no one really knows the answer to these questions.

dragonshield wrote:
Well um I read this info that force nuker good at war and gruop war but with tree skill nuker are good at 1vs1 ??



Force Nuker:
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Group PvP
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A force nuker is said to be good in group pvp because you can avoid being targetted, while putting out more ranged damage than a weapon tree nuker can, thanks to the fire tree.

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1v1
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Most think they aren't so good in 1 v 1, because of other build's ability to 'hold down' or 'hold back' their enemy, while a force nuker isn't really able to do anything about it due to the long casting times on nukes.

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Weapon Tree Nuker:
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Group PvP
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Weapon tree nukers are good in group pvp, but they don't have the damage potential of a force nuker.However, if you find yourself being attacked by several str users (assuming you'll stay alive long enough to do so) you can activate the defense skill in bicheon, or if your a spear(heuksal) user, you can either stun them through lighting, or try to get them to back off by spinning, and pushing them back.I'd suggest running away as fast as possible, but anyway...

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1 v 1
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Defensively, a weapon skill nuker has a force nuker beat.Weapon tree nukers can stop their enemies, giving themselves time to cast a nuke.They also have either a hp(heuksal), or block(bicheon) increase, and they have skills that can increase their physical(bicheon) or magical(heuksal)defense.

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Overall, based on a majority of opinions a weapon tree nuker is the better choice, but remember, this is only theory. No one really knows how well a force nuker performs because no one on this forum has a personal experience with one.So:



dragonshield wrote:
Which better force nuker or tree skill nuker? Becuz I dont wanna be called noob when someone pwn me in 1vs1 or group wars.


Can't really tell you which is better, but again, most opinions point towards a weapon tree nuker as the better character overall.

As an int, you will die more often than other characters.So unless your gear is all Sun, expect death at any given moment.Also, people will call you a noob anyways for using snowshield...don't pay attention to it.So:

Choose a force nuker if you:

- Want an experimental character.
- Want to be different
- Like group fights more than 1 v 1
- Like how nukes look
- Want a more supportive character

Choose a Weapon tree nuker if you:

- Want a character that has proven to be successful
- Don't care about being different
- Like 1 v 1 more than group fights
- Like using nukes, and weapon skills
- Want a more 'defensive' nuker

The choice is yours.

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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 10:43 pm 
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yay now I understand =) since I like more 1vs1 Pvp than group
wars then I'll choose the weapon tree nuke. Thanks man. Wait wat if I want all group and all 1vs1 pvp o_O. ? Lol


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 Post subject: Re: ok I'm really really confuse =(
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dragonshield wrote:
yay now I understand =) since I like more 1vs1 Pvp than group
wars then I'll choose the weapon tree nuke. Thanks man. Wait wat if I want all group and all 1vs1 pvp o_O. ? Lol

The pure int s/s with weapon tree is good at group fights, but it wont excel in it, its only good. All builds are, but some excel in this, and others excel in 1vs1 pvp, but almost all builds are good at both, if you know how to use it.

If you want the best one then the answer would go back to my replies on your other topic. :)

EDIT: All chinese builds are good at everything, while europeans usually are bad at something but excel in another thing.

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