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 Post subject: Blader will owns at 90 cap
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:36 pm 
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Even though I'm busy grinding, I be going to DW once and while and dam those blader now hits hard. A friend of mine name "wenjin724" wtih a +6 gears got owned by a level 88 blader. Those shield buff for blader will make the blader hits like a glavie and the fact to be hit like a glavie with the bleed, division, and impotent equal dead. So my prediction, when everybody is capped out with full +5 3rd tier degree gears and weapon, I think blader will own all chinese build. My friend who is a bower also started to delvl his bow and going blader. Glavie with garment will stood no chance against a tanker like blader, at least I hope not.

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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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go youtube and watch vids from Aceops
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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:00 pm 
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a lvl 90 full farm with +6 gear and must have decent weapon lose to a blader lvl 88?? i must say your friend must be a really noob glavier. Please go tell him to train more or learn how to fight and come back tell us about it.

And please stop making useless post that favor a build. and if. you do be smart about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:01 pm 
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think sword will be good at 90 cap then? not that ill be 90 anytime soon mabye even ever but still...


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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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all he did was make an observance. dont give him such a hard time. you didnt have to read, let alone respond to his thread you know.

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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:03 pm 
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a lvl 90 full farm with +6 gear and must have decent weapon lose to a blader lvl 88?? i must say your friend must be a really noob glavier. Please go tell him to train more or learn how to fight and come back tell us about it.

And please stop making useless post that favor a build. and if. you do be smart about it.


Useless post ftl...Bladers do hit hard now with that buff/the debuffs and the quadruple stab. I still wouldn't go blader tho.

Also who said that guy was 90 fully farmed? You prolly Rev6ed it, nvm.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:05 pm 
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This "wenjin724" also has ice at 90 doesn't he?


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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:30 pm 
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Yup bladers are amazingly strong now


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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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Even though I'm busy grinding, I be going to DW once and while and dam those blader now hits hard. A friend of mine name "wenjin724" wtih a +6 gears got owned by a level 88 blader. Those shield buff for blader will make the blader hits like a glavie and the fact to be hit like a glavie with the bleed, division, and impotent equal dead. So my prediction, when everybody is capped out with full +5 3rd tier degree gears and weapon, I think blader will own all chinese build. My friend who is a bower also started to delvl his bow and going blader. Glavie with garment will stood no chance against a tanker like blader, at least I hope not.


OMGBBQHAX, now you guys are realizing that.

Blader at 100 cap with a +7 shield and +5 Blade will pwn. The better the shield the deadlier the blader. If ints use shieldpd they're just asking to die.

Bladers now hit harder and will only get better.

Shieldpd with a Very good shield = Hits almost as high as glaivers.
Dull, Impotent, Division, Bleed, Fear, Stun, KD, and Crit increase make for a dangerous match.
Higher Physical defense and BR.

I asked DR in the video section. He said the highest he has seen a farmed glaiver hit is 16k and the highest he has seen a blader hit is 14k. He posted a picture of the 14k crit. This was with KD, now Imagine 4 stabs coming in possibly criting and with that shieldpd.

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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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Ksro has barely any bladers.
Reason: Extremely hard to grind it up and extremely time consuming.
I'm sure a blader is worth it at the end but if you could get up there faster and still like your build then why not?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:43 pm 
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Wenjin isn`t a noob. Maybe that blader was just strong for him... =\
I`m sure you guys have noticed the dmg... I got a 10k crit from a 80+5 blade and that guy was lvl 86 ... =\
Btw, Woohoo, who was Wenjin fighting?

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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:47 pm 
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Ksro has barely any bladers.
Reason: Extremely hard to grind it up and extremely time consuming.
I'm sure a blader is worth it at the end but if you could get up there faster and still like your build then why not?


The should start plvling more bladers. They plvl European buffer classes but not bladers.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:24 pm 
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you guys are forgetting that glaviers or none shield build can switch to shield while they are being kd. even with the extra boost for bladers its still hard to kill a good glavier. As for bowmen they lack defense but they can do lot of kb like a mofo.

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F-22 wrote:
you guys are forgetting that glaviers or none shield build can switch to shield while they are being kd. even with the extra boost for bladers its still hard to kill a good glavier. As for bowmen they lack defense but they can do lot of kb like a mofo.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ggiqdQEx8 nice 100cap? not sure on cap but dam bower looks real nice but sadly glavier still overpowered :roll: :x :x :x :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:14 pm 
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glaiver is the shit
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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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Woohoo wrote:
Even though I'm busy grinding, I be going to DW once and while and dam those blader now hits hard. A friend of mine name "wenjin724" wtih a +6 gears got owned by a level 88 blader. Those shield buff for blader will make the blader hits like a glavie and the fact to be hit like a glavie with the bleed, division, and impotent equal dead. So my prediction, when everybody is capped out with full +5 3rd tier degree gears and weapon, I think blader will own all chinese build. My friend who is a bower also started to delvl his bow and going blader. Glavie with garment will stood no chance against a tanker like blader, at least I hope not.


wenjin sucks without full sun gear.

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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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Pandemic on Pacific is one of the best bladers - he hits massive crits, though I wouldn't call them THE BEST BUILD! It's all about who plays the builds well.

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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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One thing that I know from experience: a hybrid blader already hits as hard as a glavier - or even harder with good enough gear -, and has more defense because of his/her shield.Then imagine that with the shield buff. Deadly

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One thing that I know from experience: a hybrid blader already hits as hard as a glavier - or even harder with good enough gear -, and has more defense because of his/her shield.Then imagine that with the shield buff. Deadly


you can't be any more wrong


the only way to go blader would be pure str or its a waste


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 Post subject: Re: Blader will owns at 90 cap
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the sheild buff makes them lose a % of the defense I beleive?

Edit- I looked it up on sro.mmosite that states at current cap the highest lvl a blader can have into the skill is at 89 that gives 119 attack power increase but has a 74% sheild phy defence.

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Thomas42 wrote:
One thing that I know from experience: a hybrid blader already hits as hard as a glavier - or even harder with good enough gear -, and has more defense because of his/her shield.Then imagine that with the shield buff. Deadly


not hybrid blader, hybrid int s/s is deadly.

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Bladers fail unfortunately when it comes to shield pd.
It seems to be good against pure ints but when pvping pure str it has a horrible outcome. They hit harder but not as hard as an archer or glaiver. So when facing them the defense loss is too much. No longer the tank they were and now its more like a blader without a shield doing slightly better dmg.
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Thomas42 wrote:
One thing that I know from experience: a hybrid blader already hits as hard as a glavier - or even harder with good enough gear -, and has more defense because of his/her shield.Then imagine that with the shield buff. Deadly


you can't be any more wrong


the only way to go blader would be pure str or its a waste

Some of the best bladers I've seen have been hybrid.

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Bladers fail unfortunately when it comes to shield pd.
It seems to be good against pure ints but when pvping pure str it has a horrible outcome. They hit harder but not as hard as an archer or glaiver. So when facing them the defense loss is too much. No longer the tank they were and now its more like a blader without a shield doing slightly better dmg.
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Thomas42 wrote:
One thing that I know from experience: a hybrid blader already hits as hard as a glavier - or even harder with good enough gear -, and has more defense because of his/her shield.Then imagine that with the shield buff. Deadly


you can't be any more wrong


the only way to go blader would be pure str or its a waste

Some of the best bladers I've seen have been hybrid.

the_nutter is a str hybird on aege server and he does pritty good, he also can manage to hold a 40% snowshield which keeps him alive against glaviers highier lvl then himself

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F-22 wrote:
you guys are forgetting that glaviers or none shield build can switch to shield while they are being kd. even with the extra boost for bladers its still hard to kill a good glavier. As for bowmen they lack defense but they can do lot of kb like a mofo.


Many glaviers don't know how to fully use there build.
Warriors skill Maddening & DareDevil (I believe) are extremely slow.. with a a good shield and a glavie on the quick slot is very easy to switch to shield while a warrior is using maddening/dare devil or u are KD..it will drastically reduce dmg or even completely block there atk. then switch to glavie once there atk. is done (takes less then a sec. to switch b/w shield/glavie) even if the warrior stuns and decides to use maddening or dare devil u will recover before the atk. is perform cuz is very slow. is easy to survive bless/skins with this method. only use emperor/ghost spear when warrior is on skins even while performing emperor u can still switch to shield if..u see the warrior using maddening but the dmg will hit as though u had the weapon equip...and most warriors will die fast once there skins bless is over.

With a +5 protector set this would be even easier

I will soon post a video of what i mean. :)

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F-22 wrote:
you guys are forgetting that glaviers or none shield build can switch to shield while they are being kd. even with the extra boost for bladers its still hard to kill a good glavier. As for bowmen they lack defense but they can do lot of kb like a mofo.


Many glaviers don't know how to fully use there build.
Warriors skill Maddening & DareDevil (I believe) are extremely slow.. with a a good shield and a glavie on the quick slot is very easy to switch to shield while a warrior is using maddening/dare devil or u are KD..it will drastically reduce dmg or even completely block there atk. then switch to glavie once there atk. is done (takes less then a sec. to switch b/w shield/glavie) even if the warrior stuns and decides to use maddening or dare devil u will recover before the atk. is perform cuz is very slow. is easy to survive bless/skins with this method. only use emperor/ghost spear when warrior is on skins even while performing emperor u can still switch to shield if..u see the warrior using maddening but the dmg will hit as though u had the weapon equip...and most warriors will die fast once there skins bless is over.

With a +5 protector set this would be even easier

I will soon post a video of what i mean. :)


I'll be looking forward to it. There aren't many good glaiver videos.

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