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 Post subject: Full INT Bower
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:57 am 
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Im planning for this build i.e Full Int Bower with Pacheon Skills,
Cold and Lightning. The problem is what should i get for bow skill?
5 arrow Combo is a must. What else should I get?


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:23 am 
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A different build, except if u like winning not a single PVP fight and getting raped in Jobs :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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My ex char used to be one (it was my first char k ? dont hate me ;D)

It was nice for grinding but u fail in pvp :c


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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may be a good idea at first levels but when you'll get you first nuke you will forget about your bow skills & keep using the nukes in pvp & pve eventually you'll switch to sword or spear cuz their magical attack is higher than the bow .

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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may be a good idea at first levels but when you'll get you first nuke you will forget about your bow skills & keep using the nukes in pvp & pve eventually you'll switch to sword or spear cuz their magical attack is higher than the bow .

LOL when i was lvl 30 i pwned a lvl 52+ full int bow, it makes me laugh xD

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Ploxy wrote:
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may be a good idea at first levels but when you'll get you first nuke you will forget about your bow skills & keep using the nukes in pvp & pve eventually you'll switch to sword or spear cuz their magical attack is higher than the bow .

LOL when i was lvl 30 i pwned a lvl 52+ full int bow, it makes me laugh xD


I find that extremely hard to believe.

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Hi guys. I'm making a full int char now. It's lvl 29 atm and its bow. Well I'm only using bow for farming. I'll be farming at ongs when I get to level 32-34. Bought a SOM bow level 32. But I'll delevel it somehow when I'm done farming and be an S/S type. Well as of my experience with pure int bow's. they are nice for grinding. Kills pretty fast then normal str bow. But'm you'll be in trouble when you have more then 1 party monsters attacking you. And its impossible to avoid that because bowers have long range aoe(Area Of Effect) attacks. So TS.. you should probably be a strength type bow. Believe me, Int bow sucks.

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Ploxy wrote:
Ash wrote:
may be a good idea at first levels but when you'll get you first nuke you will forget about your bow skills & keep using the nukes in pvp & pve eventually you'll switch to sword or spear cuz their magical attack is higher than the bow .

LOL when i was lvl 30 i pwned a lvl 52+ full int bow, it makes me laugh xD


I find that extremely hard to believe.

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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pure int bow seems to me like it would equal instadeath.....

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Another thing Pure int don't do criticals ( i mean their critical dmg is the same as their normal one)

So when joymax coders make a whole skill that increases you critical (Anti devil bow series) they meant for bowers to go full str ^_^

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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if you ask this question at cap 70.The answer will be NO unless for pve.
This is because at this cap bow dont have any *disabling* move like bicheon KD and heuksal stun+KB.

but at 80 to 90 cap..player already been introduce to snowshield and bow gain 2 *disabling* move like stun and KB.

not gonna say that this build wll do good or great since with the new skill pure int bow should be different from b4??? anybody?


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Pure INT bow? No.

Hybrid INT (possibly 70:70 bow)? Yes, definitely. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Pure int bower is just a nuker who deals less damage (b/c bow mag damage is low) and tanks worst. You do get stun and kb with it. The only advantage I see with this build is that you have tons of ranged nukes+attacks, which you can bombard enemies with if you don't die. You will probably need to max Iceberg wall and Snow Shield so you can be safe while attacking and nuking.

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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What do you guys think ... could KB spamming (5 & 6 Arrow Combo) could outdamage pot spamming? at Full Int Bow ... it can kill euro's for sure ...

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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it's a build many disregard. i think it is interesting and i would wanna try to make 1 high level enough to get at least the knockback. pure int/heavy int hybrid + cold imbue + light.


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Ash wrote:
Another thing Pure int don't do criticals ( i mean their critical dmg is the same as their normal one)

So when joymax coders make a whole skill that increases you critical (Anti devil bow series) they meant for bowers to go full str ^_^


Pure bullshit. Full int normal damage = full str critical damage. Full Int critical damage > full str critical damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Nitro wrote:
What do you guys think ... could KB spamming (5 & 6 Arrow Combo) could outdamage pot spamming? at Full Int Bow ... it can kill euro's for sure ...

i hope it could at least kill wizard :)

as for me, no harm trying out this build
because i like to use bow for its KBs and at the same time i wish i could do some nuke..


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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as for me, no harm trying out this build
because i like to use bow for its KBs and at the same time i wish i could do some nuke..


i think you will enjoy this build, especially if you not a pvp person that must win every match or sore loser otherwise. in fact, you can grind later without bow, using sword or spear for nuking. problem with bow for me is the need to carry the arrows that take up space in inventory.


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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i say a str bowman if u want int use a spear or sword cause u will get nukes

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Osman wrote:
Ash wrote:
Another thing Pure int don't do criticals ( i mean their critical dmg is the same as their normal one)

So when joymax coders make a whole skill that increases you critical (Anti devil bow series) they meant for bowers to go full str ^_^


Pure bullshit. Full int normal damage = full str critical damage. Full Int critical damage > full str critical damage.



Osman man you are incorrect. full int normal damage is less than full str crit; unless its nuke. crit is totally str based so its way higher than any other damage except nukes. a pure int crit is always low than a pure str crit just coz crit is str based and who else has more str than a pure str ? lol.. makes sense?

OT: it might be good against euro that are easier to kill, but same applies to this build as well. int bot has no physical protection like shield, or not even hp increase like huk. its worst enemy would be a pure str bow which will 1 crit hit him without snow shield, with snow may be a lil more surviavility, but not much.

i have seen pure int bow at 80 cap full farmed and pvp ed him with my hybrid 7:1 s/s. his nuke damage is about same as mine, but when i kd/stab he is too vulnerable. he has switched to s/s after 90 cap came :)

go str with bow.. look at their skill.. so many crit increase. get a good crit bow and you will pwn. if you go pure int then s/s is best :)

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Isn't it all about the probability, the chance you have to deal the critical hit? Or does the STR interfere with the damage dealt by critical hit itself?

I mean:
Full INT: normal hit 10k critical ~20k
Full STR: normal hit 6k critical ~ what 25k lol?(or is it?).

That's how i see it:
Full INT: normal hit 10k critical ~20k -extremely rare
Full STR: normal hit 6k critical ~12k -quite often, depending on your gear (that also means full int, or hybrids like 70:70 are less gear dependent).

My choice is 70:70 bow/cold(imbue)/light(imbue).

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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Kubus wrote:
Isn't it all about the probability, the chance you have to deal the critical hit? Or does the STR interfere with the damage dealt by critical hit itself?

I mean:
Full INT: normal hit 10k critical ~20k
Full STR: normal hit 6k critical ~ what 25k lol?(or is it?).

That's how i see it:
Full INT: normal hit 10k critical ~20k -extremely rare
Full STR: normal hit 6k critical ~12k -quite often, depending on your gear (that also means full int, or hybrids like 70:70 are less gear dependent).

My choice is 70:70 bow/cold(imbue)/light(imbue).

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pure int critical damage is almost the same as it's normal damage

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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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XD...well i have a bow-int at Hercules server,
name: HaKuFu
lvl: 84 (gap 4)
ice-light-pach

and btw...i think i can give my opinion...

1.- yes, it does crit higher than str bow
2.- yes, low phy def, but high damage
3.- yes, do PvP its so difficult, but dont are imposible, when u have snow shield skill
no-one can kill u, knock back fast, stun (some times) and a LONG distance (higher than
nuker) for attack and High damage make this build so strong

thats the + and - for the build, if i forget something, sry


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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saintoinu wrote:
XD...well i have a bow-int at Hercules server,
name: HaKuFu
lvl: 84 (gap 4)
ice-light-pach

and btw...i think i can give my opinion...

1.- yes, it does crit higher than str bow
2.- yes, low phy def, but high damage
3.- yes, do PvP its so difficult, but dont are imposible, when u have snow shield skill
no-one can kill u, knock back fast, stun (some times) and a LONG distance (higher than
nuker) for attack and High damage make this build so strong

thats the + and - for the build, if i forget something, sry


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:34 pm 
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viet21 on eldorado is a pure int bow and does fairly well

it doesnt matter if they have no def if they can kill the other guy in 2 or 3 skills :S


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 Post subject: Re: Full INT Bower
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-It's fast at lvling
-It's fun to play
-It's even funnier with the KB combos ^^
-Nice damage

It's like the 1:1 hybrids and str hybrids... Everyone says they suck because it's rare to find them at high levels.

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