Well, my sub will most likely be bard. So I'll end up as a Warlock/Bard.
I realise we'll have a shortage of Bards, but... you really want Cleric as sub for Warlock.
Why would that be, though? In parties, strength clerics are preferred anyway, and while soloing, I have the hp-draining skill, which will provide me with some hp if in danger.
I'm guessing, therefore, that you were primarily referring to PVP scenarios? In those cases you are absolutely right - bard doesn't really help at all in PVP. But to be honest, capping will take quite some time, and until that happens, having bard will give me speed + protection while soloing and a much-needed bard role in parties.
But yeah, I'm still open for suggestions. I might level up a blader on the side to have fun with PVP at cap.
But yeah, I'm still open for suggestions. I might level up a blader on the side to have fun with PVP at cap.
im doing str chinese, will get no party for sure, but hey.... getting a strong character
btw, can i join dat BlackHand Guild?
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If you want a strong character, I think you should just do a strength rogue/warlock. Stun/sleep/bind/whatever the enemy and then dagger desperate + that prick skill (or whatever its name is), and your enemy is as good as dead. Not much a strength glaive can do about that (you're creating a glaive, right?).
And sure you can - you were in BlackHand before as well, right?
But yeah, I still actually do agree with you, as I might do a blade on the side. Pretty sure they'll be super strong on this server.
Why would that be, though? In parties, strength clerics are preferred anyway, and while soloing, I have the hp-draining skill, which will provide me with some hp if in danger.
I'm guessing, therefore, that you were primarily referring to PVP scenarios? In those cases you are absolutely right - bard doesn't really help at all in PVP. But to be honest, capping will take quite some time, and until that happens, having bard will give me speed + protection while soloing and a much-needed bard role in parties.
Cleric is obviously more useful during (1 on 1) PvP, but also more useful during solo PvE in my opinion. This is due to the way you should grind with a Warlock.
As solo Warlock all you want to do is use (single target) DoT attacks and keep running around. If you have decent gear 1 DoT for each mob would be enough, but with clean gear you'll need to use 2. This way you'll be able to spend most of your time in zerk mode.
- Speed is important for this, but you can rely on speed potions rather than go with a Bard sub for this. - Noise is useless in my opinion because you're not as squishy as a Wizard and anything close to you should already be running behind you with a DoT on it. - Recovery Division will be really helpful to heal you should you get hit. Using your Vampire skills will be too slow if you have a bunch of mobs chasing you. - Other Cleric skills (e.g.: Bless Spell,...) will help you a lot more as well. - I also prefer the access to Light Armour, which you won't get as a Bard.
It's your character of course, so you decide. ^^
Damnit... Now I want to play Warlock/Cleric again... It's the most awesome build after all. And I will also have a Chinese on the side which I'll play when there's no EU parties.
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btw, can i join dat BlackHand Guild?
Assuming BlackHand gets recreated (should be), then sure. Spots will be limited in the beginning again, but people from SRF will have priority.
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Cleric is obviously more useful during (1 on 1) PvP, but also more useful during solo PvE in my opinion. This is due to the way you should grind with a Warlock.
As solo Warlock all you want to do is use (single target) DoT attacks and keep running around. If you have decent gear 1 DoT for each mob would be enough, but with clean gear you'll need to use 2. This way you'll be able to spend most of your time in zerk mode.
- Speed is important for this, but you can rely on speed potions rather than go with a Bard sub for this. - Noise is useless in my opinion because you're not as squishy as a Wizard and anything close to you should already be running behind you with a DoT on it. - Recovery Division will be really helpful to heal you should you get hit. Using your Vampire skills will be too slow if you have a bunch of mobs chasing you. - Other Cleric skills (e.g.: Bless Spell,...) will help you a lot more as well. - I also prefer the access to Light Armour, which you won't get as a Bard.
It's your character of course, so you decide. ^^
Damnit... Now I want to play Warlock/Cleric again... It's the most awesome build after all. And I will also have a Chinese on the side which I'll play when there's no EU parties.
That's exactly how I always solo grind on a warlock too (it's just so awesome!), but I didn't consider that going with bard won't allow me to use light armor. That's really a deal-breaker for me :/
Ah well, I might end up with a warlock/cleric after all
Also, my issue right now is that I enjoy grinding with an archer the most, but think that bladers will own pvp at cap. What to do... what to do...
I have the same hesitations: Rogue/cleric, warlock/cleric, bard/cleric or force bower... I tend to Rogue, but still want to try the others. BTW, I'm looking for a solo build as I can't stay for long in PT with a baby at home...
Also, my issue right now is that I enjoy grinding with an archer the most, but think that bladers will own pvp at cap. What to do... what to do...
Do bladers have both chains with bad status effects at 90? Or was that during 100 cap? If they have both, they are awesome. Boring as hell to grind though.
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Natsumi wrote:
ltsune wrote:
Also, my issue right now is that I enjoy grinding with an archer the most, but think that bladers will own pvp at cap. What to do... what to do...
Do bladers have both chains with bad status effects at 90? Or was that during 100 cap? If they have both, they are awesome. Boring as hell to grind though.
thats 100cap
at 90cap: 1 debuff combo + 1 bleed skill and that stab skill with crit 5 incr.
Also, my issue right now is that I enjoy grinding with an archer the most, but think that bladers will own pvp at cap. What to do... what to do...
Do bladers have both chains with bad status effects at 90? Or was that during 100 cap? If they have both, they are awesome. Boring as hell to grind though.
thats 100cap
at 90cap: 1 debuff combo + 1 bleed skill and that stab skill with crit 5 incr.
Since you seem to have a good memory, do you remember if archers have knockback - and if so how many, on these server files?
Anyway, here's an update for those who haven't seen it:
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Update:
-Added reopening date to main thread -Finishing server details -Modifying a few client features -Re-adding silks
More info coming out soon
I am grateful for your patience users, and we're sorry for the long wait :'(
Interesting. Seems like Heuksal finds a nice middle-ground between the 12k and 17k of the archer skills. Does the Strong Bow skill have a stun chance at 90cap?
Well, it opens at 4am for me. Not sure if I'll be there for the launch, but I'll try
Stay up all night, nub - oqe?
ANOTHER UPDATE:
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-Added official hour to main post -Soon we'll be having CTF guys! -Added safe-trade method to the main thread:
Safe trade - what is it?
Spoiler!
Dupe/Scam control - Read first:
Users will get DC if they are trying to dupe + get banned
Users will get DC if they are trying to scam + get banned
Even if users use different safe-trade status, server will protect both from getting scammed
We're saving a log of users that abuse of this method in a wrong way
No items or gold will be lost in a failed transaction
Guide to safe trading - features
Two states, 1 and 0
Used to prevent people from duping/scamming
Working in both stall and exchange methods
How to turn it on:
You'll see:
If you are in status 1:
You will get DC if you move an item in your inventory
You won't be able to exchange/buy from stalls with users using safe trade 0
USE IT ONLY FOR SAFE TRADING and avoid random DC when moving items
If you are in status 0:
You will be able to move items in your inventory without DC
You won't be able to exchange/buy from stalls with users using safe trade 1
Before exchanging/stalling
Ask the other user which status he's using before exchanging (you can both use 0 if you want, you're protected by server anyway)
Follow a stall rule so users know which status you're using.
**Attention** For an exchange/stall purchase to be successful, both users have to be in the same status (1 or 0) Always return to safetrade 0 when you finished so you are able to move your items without DC!
FAQ
I get random DC but I am not exchanging or buying from stall - Put safetrade to 0, you tried moving an item with safetrade 1
I got DC while exchanging with another user - Check if both users have the same safetrade status (1-1 or 0-0)
Is it safe to use safetrade 0? - Yes it is, even if you aren't in that mode, server will protect you from possible scams and duping
So, which one I am to use, 1 or 0? - Stay on 0 while doing grinding and normal routine, and use 1 if you're going to exchange or sell something important you're afraid to lose
So, duping and scamming isn't possible anymore? -Nope, even if you don't use safetrade, users who dupe or try to scam are getting punished and the process is reverted so you won't be losing anything
why exclude american folks? why exclude people who work during the day?
i hate stupid shit like this
i'll be on in 6h anyway, see you there!
You won't be missing all that much, actually. It has been delayed for 3 hours, it seems
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Sorry guys bad news. We are working right now at the database. And this part will take longer as we know... So the opening will be 05.06.2016 9pm(mm/dd/yy) If we are done earlier we will start it before 9pm.
I won't be available for the launch since they pushed it back to 9pm +1utc, i'll be on within a couple hours after that though, i will be at my gf's parents having a BBQ i should be able to catch up quickly though.
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In those cases you are absolutely right - bard doesn't really help at all in PVP. But to be honest, capping will take quite some time, and until that happens, having bard will give me speed + protection while soloing and a much-needed bard role in parties. 
It's the most awesome build after all.
