Comprehensive Rogue Guide [Work.In.Progress.]

2boss4u · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:47 am

you removed glory and favor armor from cleric SD
why?
doesnt work when we change wpn??

Kaizaken · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 3 **Location:** In Mercury

so does a Rogue need to be SP farmed because I plan on making one using both weapons but Xbox till lvl 40 then ima start using dagger and xbow. Also my subclass is going to be Bard because of Speed and Noise and I like to Solo and PVP/Job.

So do you need to SP farm and how much do you recommend and what lvl to SP farm again?

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:40 am

srry glory armor etc were removed because they don't stay when you change weapons...i misunderstood mocha* when he explained it to me...

Also unless you have a GT+SPGT from lvl 1-80 you will need to farm.....with those two things you can 0 gap and should have enough when you reach 80...without those 2 things you will need to farm...and even more for a sub class.....

Stress · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:28 am

Guide is fantastic. Great job

madzoro · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 5

first let me congratulate u on this gr8 guide
Nice work

i am lvl 49 xbow rogue & farming for dagger & cleric subbuild
i made tht decision before i saw tht guide wish i had seen it before

well now i am not sure warlock or cleric

anyway i agree with nearly everything thing u said execpt pvping ...

well warlocks don't know y u said they r the ones to beat us
i mean a warlock nvr killed me ... nvr , even with block & remeber rogues have posion circle& range advantage with xbow , even if the stun u can tank just don't use extreme or desparte with them

wiz kill u 1 hit espically if they r higher thn ur lvl but it is just who shots first

now warriors they r very easy to kill until lvl 40 & they get iron skin tht skills sux makes their defense go up & they r wearing heavy armor it will be too tough to take warriors with iron skin on , but too easy with no iron skin lol

hope u get wht i mean cheers

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:44 am

madzoro wrote:

first let me congratulate u on this gr8 guide
Nice work

i am lvl 49 xbow rogue & farming for dagger & cleric subbuild
i made tht decision before i saw tht guide wish i had seen it before

well now i am not sure warlock or cleric

anyway i agree with nearly everything thing u said execpt pvping ...

well warlocks don't know y u said they r the ones to beat us
i mean a warlock nvr killed me ... nvr , even with block & remeber rogues have posion circle& range advantage with xbow , even if the stun u can tank just don't use extreme or desparte with them

wiz kill u 1 hit espically if they r higher thn ur lvl but it is just who shots first

now warriors they r very easy to kill until lvl 40 & they get iron skin tht skills sux makes their defense go up & they r wearing heavy armor it will be too tough to take warriors with iron skin on , but too easy with no iron skin lol

i'll make some adjustments but warlocks become even more dangerous as they lvl up....I use my dagger more than i use my xbow so when i get stunned i normally get debuffed or DoT'd to death

Even with iron skin i don't consider warriors a big threat but i will warn ppl about it thx
hope u get wht i mean cheers

Micheeels · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 135 **Location:**

What a great guide! Very well done! :O

Vindicator · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1734 **Location:** L-A-B

BTW, under the gear section, the picture of a crossbow is where your talking about daggers, and the picture of a dagger is where your talking about crossbows. Just letting you know in case you want to fix that. Nice job with the guide.

2boss4u · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:53 pm

i asked this already but i ask again .
sry about double posting .
under stealth can we berseke?
x3

MrLonely · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 162 **Location:**

I remember this brought up somewhere but never actually answered,
Can we use wizard teleport without equipping wizard's staff?

Lol it wouldnt be worth to max whole tree just for 1 skill, but it would be interesting to know. :roll:

Micheeels · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 135 **Location:**

Hmm, well, it doesn't say ''Used weapon: staff'', like the other wizard skills..

2boss4u · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:50 pm

i want to go rogue but i dont want to farm what should i do? choose only one wpn? skip sub? help me pls
i hate farming >.<

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:36 pm

Check the skillz calculators to plan the SP of your build but im pretty sure you'll have to farm for ANY sro character just not as much for Euros

Also i think you need the staff in hand to teleport so don't sub wizard -_-

You can't zerk while stealth what you can do its as soon as you attack zerk right after s your first attack will have the extra zerk damage

2boss4u · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:06 am

XemnasXD wrote:

Check the skillz calculators to plan the SP of your build but im pretty sure you'll have to farm for ANY sro character just not as much for Euros

Also i think you need the staff in hand to teleport so don't sub wizard -_-

You can't zerk while stealth what you can do its as soon as you attack zerk right after s your first attack will have the extra zerk damage

ok :l
thank you i guess i need to farm :banghead:

MrLonely · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 162 **Location:**

This is reall good guide, it has pictures and everything

2boss4u · **Posted:** Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:49 pm

XemnasXD for president :o

Etrad · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 110 **Location:**

XemnasXD wrote:

SD-will greatly improve your defensive capabilities while solo. If you choose this form of the build you will basically only need the buffs and should not be prepared to act as a temp-healer if your party should need it. Your a strictly focusing on the buffs that will enhance your soling abilities.
-Healing
-Healing Cycle
-Bless
-Holy Word
-Heaven Flash

Why no recovery division? Doesn't it work on yourself?

Because if it doesn't, I feel less inclined to get cleric as a sub for crossbow rogue, since thats the only healing skill that seems worthy (for soloing giants/party mobs).

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:59 am

Etrad wrote:

XemnasXD wrote:

SD-will greatly improve your defensive capabilities while solo. If you choose this form of the build you will basically only need the buffs and should not be prepared to act as a temp-healer if your party should need it. Your a strictly focusing on the buffs that will enhance your soling abilities.
-Healing
-Healing Cycle
-Bless
-Holy Word
-Heaven Flash

Why no recovery division? Doesn't it work on yourself?

Because if it doesn't, I feel less inclined to get cleric as a sub for crossbow rogue, since thats the only healing skill that seems worthy (for soloing giants/party mobs).

*looks into it*

RMP · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

Etrad wrote:

XemnasXD wrote:

SD-will greatly improve your defensive capabilities while solo. If you choose this form of the build you will basically only need the buffs and should not be prepared to act as a temp-healer if your party should need it. Your a strictly focusing on the buffs that will enhance your soling abilities.
-Healing
-Healing Cycle
-Bless
-Holy Word
-Heaven Flash

Why no recovery division? Doesn't it work on yourself?

Because if it doesn't, I feel less inclined to get cleric as a sub for crossbow rogue, since thats the only healing skill that seems worthy (for soloing giants/party mobs).

well, i'm lvl 42 with lvl 38 masteries Rogue/Bard, and using large or X-large hp pots (auto pot at 75%), i can kill any party general/giant/champ lvl 42 or under, just switch from Xbow to daggers without DD or XBD of course, I allways have some medium/grain recovery pots (the purple ones) with me, and use it if my hp go below 40%, the trick is not to get mobed, tanks to noise and your wolf, if more than one mob got to you, use the wolf to tank the other/s. So i'm my self still supporting Bard for a Rogue sub instead of cleric.

my 2 cents.

Salu2 & dorry for my english.

elnawawi · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 338 **Location:**

lol ..
very nice guide even I think that I know all these informations ..

ppl need to read guide like that ..

I'm lvl 40 rogue / cleric with 38 + 3 crosssbow .. I can kill lvl 48 spiders , 50 mujigi , 52 Hishade , and lvl 54 penons ..

I recorded some vedio and when upload it I will give you the links here

Cheetos · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 81 **Location:** VENUS DUDE

umm what skills do i max for rouge? this guide only explains the skills but i dont know which 1 to max

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:49 pm

Cheetos wrote:

umm what skills do i max for rouge? this guide only explains the skills but i dont know which 1 to max

If you want to be an Xbow rogue max everything except the dagger skillz

if you want to be a dagger rogue max everything except for crossbow..

eventually get both....

BeyondControl · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 11 **Location:**

Great guide, helped me alot with my rogue.

shieldmaiden · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 21 **Location:**

is it possible to get 2 subclasses for my rogue?

BeyondControl · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 11 **Location:**

You can get 2 sub classes for your rogue, but you wont be able to max them both.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:02 am

shieldmaiden wrote:

is it possible to get 2 subclasses for my rogue?

i wouldn't advise it.....the skillz you use your subclass for are good at low lvls but really only pay off if you get them to there higher lvls.....

but whatever floats your boat but like ^ said you won't be able to come close to maxing either if you choose 2 subs

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

great guide dude

....i shouldve made a rogue guide... i knew this stuff

meh GREAT GUIDE

darkmaster21 · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 2156 **Location:**

Make a Islam guide when Islam comes to one of the SRO's Barotix

Etrad · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 110 **Location:**

So has any rogue with cleric sub tried out Recovery Division yet? Cause healing cycle's duration is too damn short to be useful in a long battle (PVP/boss/party mob), and if thats the only useful battle-use healing skill to get, then I rather take bard as a sub. >_>

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:44 am

Etrad wrote:

So has any rogue with cleric sub tried out Recovery Division yet? Cause healing cycle's duration is too damn short to be useful in a long battle (PVP/boss/party mob), and if thats the only useful battle-use healing skill to get, then I rather take bard as a sub. >_>

yeah you can use recovery division but i'd only choose cleric if you wanted defense.....healing is good and stuff but i'd rather take less damage than rely on my health coming back in time

bard for speed which is all well and good....

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