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LVL 64 BOW SOS+5 crit10 in protector with near max blues on protector set. (Light ice bow with lvl 32 fire buffs.)

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LVL 64 glavie Sos+5 crit 9 Garm set with near max STR on garm set with some int,hp and parry. (He is a standard fire/light glavier in garms)

Both of us with 4gap in skills.

With me using ice imbue and him not immune(just with pills) I would win 70-80% of the time as long as I had snow shield running. Without snow shield running it was about 50%

With him immune to ice, he had a 50-60% chance of winning against me with me using snow shield and light imbue.
Without me using snow shield he had a 90% chance to win.

If I had stun and knockback I would have won every time, but I don't

So..... The fights were very short. I had slightly better gear then him and I still lost overall. Whoever crit first basically 1 the fight. With him stunning and knocking me back he usually got the first crit in.

Without crits I could kill him in about 4-5 hits. It took him about 10 hits for him to kill me without a crit. (me using snow shield)
The problem is he would always interrupt my 5 hits on him with a stun/knockback.

What a nice to hear that ..... this fight prove that 80:80 bow own as you get 50% chance (in snow shield) to win against this damn glavie with stun/KB , you will have these skills later so you chance will go higher and higher (when you get Stun/KB it's imbossible to glavier to have chance to get 10 hits in row .. 5 hits is almost imbossible) ..

And it's not the Stun/KB only .. it's Devil arrow too with 350% and more attack rating ..

And did you tried to use the phantom walk tactics ? this may give you more chance ..

Also did you thought about 7% phy attack you loss from 60 ~ 30 fire ? you see that when he is immune it's pointless to use Ice Imbue .. so why you don't think about Higher fire ?

use light imbue if immune , it you higher fire then you cant max ice for the full 50% snow shield.............. But you have beta chance against ints with fire, unless they are not immune.

nuke does decent damage, but not as much as devil arrows/strong bow.
as u are not a tanker, mind bow isnt useful for pve. it attracts too much mobs on you..

but both very nice for being hunter especially some lvls below u. just nuke and 3rd and 2nd book of mind bow clears most of a 5* within 5 seconds

but nukes do more than non-crit anti-devil .. so if situation make crit not important (some one wear armor) it's better to use nukes instead of anti-devil ..

I don't know load time of these last books but IMO if it's possible to : last strong bow , second strong bow , devil arrow .. and loop with no need for 4th skill it will be the best combo for PVP (use KB only when needed) ..

want to ask sumthing bout this build..

if this build desperately want to level but only have enough sp to level a mastery , what should the highest mastery be? pacheon or the force that is use as imbue?which will give more damage when max?

I believe tomiotar mentioned, what you described, is exactly what he does. Though I believe that you must add arrow combo because of the funky recharge times. The problem is at middle levels ( like me at 64) bezerker does same damage as antidevil without the crit increase.




I would recommend raising your imbue as a priority since you are a int hybrid. The majority of your damage comes from imbue. The exception would be if you are unlocking a new weapon skill book. Then It would be better to raise pacheon.

Thanks for bumping this, I couldnt find it by search =x

Anybody who got an idea about the masteries @ level 90???

i dont have any idea...

i planned 90 for pach,fire,light and 30 for ice?! or what do you think?

Who bumped this thread? Just let this stupid build die.

Eventually hybrids will suck. Because eventually you will have to choose to 2 mastery's, try to get more and your skills will be low level and you will suck even worse. That is what SRO was meant for...2 mastery's and that is it.

You have to get bow obviously. And then your limited to one force, thats ONE defensive buff if you even choose one. You will get owned, no defense, no hp, no defense buffs.

lol?

damn ice/bicheon nukers gonna be the p0000wwwnnnnage fo shoa dude

I think pacheon/light should do fine, full str will suffer waayyy more

i don't think 70:70 bow can give up on Cold - Mana shield. we will just die by one shot for euro. Pach/Cold + speed pot. thats the only way i think

and loosing like around, whats % mag increase buff @ lv 90 25% or something?

just take ice lv 20

that may be right for 100+ cap, but i'm not planning to play this game my whole life, maybe ill reach 90 cap, so i still can have ice30 for shield. or if u like defence fire30 and ice 90. dunno if i will play 90+...

yar 70:70 is not going work at 100+ cap.. thats so boring

How do we even know there will nothing change in the entire skill system or masterie system?

Grinding as pure str without lightning (without fire you are really crap as a pure str) you will never make ik towards 150 cap

I think in every skill three, there will come extra buffs, for example in the fire three you can get a speed buff.

joymax keeps tweeking the skills as they are now. if fire shield is ever fixed, an ice bower would be one super fun character build to play.

with the recent switch with strong bow and explision arrow, I dunno what this will do to hybrid bowers.

WTF... is that a bug or what ? :S The diference is too big, using 2 books of strong bow i lvl real fast... now i cant.

If is not a bug, why they dont do the same with soul and/or ghost spear? Or blader's kd and/or stabs? That would be fair...

Fvck joimax

It is still just a waste of time for people to make this stupid build. Keep saying this build owns and you get more people to make it, only to let them find out eventually this build sucks.

wth you even didn't made it...how would you know?

You just shouldn't come in this topic and make ur baddass pure str

i still don't understand why the ratio must be 70:70? just that it looks good? why not 76:60.. u will have a little boost of dmg with this and almost 11k hp naked when u reach 80

70:70 is considerd as a good mix of hp and power

Congratulations
You just figured out something that few people have.

There is nothing magic about 70:70. When this thread began a long time ago it was before the skill update, and Wind would get the Yarken kill at least once a day. Wind just happened to be 70:70.

That is how we came up with 70:70. Thats it, nothing more.

After the update though I have to say that the benefit / the reason I am 70:70 is because I can use snow shield at 40%. Allowing me to tank like a str for 2 min. And because I can use light nuke when grinding.

Yeah, I have made a 70:70 bow before...

ROFL ! Nonsense... did you ever think of that all other build would also have only the choice between 2 skilltrees later aswell ?
So what about nukers ? Do you think they can own with 2 skilltrees ?
Stupid..
Well its true that this build will have a hard time with 2 skilltrees compared to 3-4 but who the hell cares ?
Other builds will also have only 2 skilltrees so its nearly the same !
This build works with ice and light on 150 (if it comes out)
Btw none of the str bow killed me once only with 2 crit they would be able but befor that could happen i dealed to much damage and he was dead ?


Peace

this build it's not going to work anymore. for the current cap perhaps. Nuker can give up weap mastery. and go ice + fire. Str can go weap + light.. hybrid bow dies

Nuker without wep mastery will own ? i doubt that... S/S nukers need at least the KD skills etc. spear nuker need also the spear skills for stune etc.
So what is the meaning of being ice + fire ?
That might work for PVE but i doubt in PVP

>< their nuke deal hell lot of dmg.. it's 150 cap we are saying. and cold masrtery for mana shield.. they can tank+deal real dmg.. maybe light+cold would be better.. but that doesent matter. what it matters is hybrid bow is in a risk at that cap.

only can go with Light OR Cold.. either way we still die.

Deal lot of damage ?
How can you be sure ? Strong Bow combined with int based bow build will always deal the highest damage since Strong Bow has 350% so ?