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Great guide. Haha, I'm following it right now

lol .. people left all real things and go to imagine what will happen in cap 150 ..

hey , be realsitc and speak about cap 80 and cap 90 now ..
we don't know the skills after cap 90 .. off course they will add new skills that will change the frame of all builds ..

At the previous cap nukers was always fire+light at main and cold wasn't that great .. with our current Cold become must for pure int ..

Now hybrid blader become very possible build and a lot better than pure str as they can use snow shield ..

You can see that one skill can change all the plans of all builds ... so don't speak about things we don't know now ..

And if you wanna compare hybrid VS Pure str it's easy to undestand what's the difference ...

- Pure str do only phy damge .. great phy damge .. mean he will get great increase when he crit , that's nice ... but hybrid get both mag and phy damge .. he really make more damge from mag as mag is already higher than phy he do great non crit damge .. off course pure str will get great increase in damge to make big number of crit .. but for sry hybrid have high damge enough and still have decent increase in crit that make them crit the almost the same damge .. (if they use low % bonus skill hybrid will crit harder ) .. pure str bow is noob damge dealer compared to hybrid

pure str can tank well all chinese characters for a while good side .. but he in garment can't tank that 21 Prick crit from dagger .. he die in 1 hit ..as he have only 19 k HP ..
Hybrid wear protector .. he will take less damge .. will not be more than 16~18 k ... his HP is 14.5 k yes , but with 40% snow shield he will take only 11 k damge at max .. he can't die in 1 hit .. pure str is noob tanker compared to hybrid

no.. that is not my point.. we are not discussing about what build with what skill deal the most dmg. and what it has to do with int bow and strong bow? you are getting out of point.

nuker can still do real amount of dmg just by nuking even at 150cap. and 70:70 bow Hybrid can not survive without cold mastery.

If you choose cold mastery.. it will be a very weak bow build...
so this build will gone down to the drain when it reach that cap.

My Point is you cant say that this build will sux on new cap !
70:70 bow + ice can be really good elnawawi mentioned it already !
Through ice you can tank pretty good as a hybrid and he will deal more damage than a pure str.
So... good defense + good damage + high crit rate = ?
Every build has thier pro and contra same goes to Nukers... Nukers deal high damage but they wont never be able to kill a full str glavie just be nuking (with same gear etc)...euro builds are PURE builds just look at their weapons lol

DUDE?!?!? What are you talking about?

Yeah I know that all builds will be cut to 2 masterys but at least they wont SUCK after that...for example...

INT (Nuker (PURE) CAN do)

Weapon/Force
Force/Force

STR (HAS TO DO)

Weapon/Force

But what would a 70:70 hybrid do?!?

Weapon obviously, then a force obviously. BUT a Hybrid has low physical and magical defense (because they have INT and STR split), and low hp. If they tried to tank with 2 mastery's they would get owned.

And how can you say that the 70:70 bow build works with ice and light, where is the weapon mastery?!?

And ALSO how can you say that an STR bowman killed you only once trying to put down pure str bow? Your highest level 70:70 bow build is LEVEL 42!

soooooooo which level is ur 70:70 bow dude?
it's imo obvious you should have ligtning and pacheon as main, take ice/pacheon and you won't hit anything compared to other builds.

A pure str glavie/ligtning will hit NOTHING!!! FKN NOTHING without fire (bcz of the phy % attack increase)
If there won't be added new skills or a new skill masterie, the only strong build which be full int s/s/s with just something like lightning/ice

kinda unrealistic isn't it?

LMAO I meant pacheon with light or ice not 2 force trees... wth ?
70:70 Bow build with only force ? kidding ? who the ..... noob would do that lol

I know you are a full str bow "freak" all you post are kinda against hybrid builds !
Get that in your mind... there will be always someone who will pwn your @ss
there isnt a Number One Pwner Build...

^ thats true and also you can't judge the 70;70 buold at like 150 cap now cause you don't know wtf is gonna happen at that lvl so all you pure str jus shut up for the moment lol....


and nice tut lol

Ice Warrior cry after be full farmed 70:70 build ..
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=66764&highlight=

Well try to be more specific on your posts when trying to prove a point......................

And what are you talking about (AGAIN) only force with a bowman? I said they had to have a weapon mastery in my post.

Really you think I'm a bow "freak"? Dude all you do on this stupid topic is try to back down anyone trying to prove ANY type of point claiming this build sucks. You should count how many times you have posted on this topic then YOU choose the one who is a bow "freak".



...right...

@darkmaster
lol, think that Jade is right

what where your *points* lol?
That 70:70 would be too low on hp? too bad that full int and full str will do less damage too (if you compare them @ 150, and @ 80

Try to grind op your full str glavie/blade/bow with only lightning, you'll see it will fail. You'll be breakfast for mine 70:70 since you won't have much mag defence right? bcz you havn't got fire? And you cant kill me without fire bcz you havn't got any phy % increaces? (Don't say you'll take fire level 60, it will do like nothing at level 150)

70:70 bow won't loose anything/much of his damage
(only a bit of the fire buff, atleast for me, fire isn't a main)

In the case i mentioned above, str chars will fail desperatly, don't think that JM would let that happen (neither that lv 150 cap will come ever lool)

heheh..this topic getting hot becoz ur all offence and defence aggresively...kekekeke

at higher level as u all said..weapon user can only max 1 weapon and 1 force...nothing wrong with that mean that u build will lack something unlike now.

Nah i dont mind lol
Since im fully satisfied with my 70:70 bow !
Full str bow on 150 with fire ? Are you going to be a tanker ?
Hoping for crit is not my style not at all !

Btw im not a bow freak I just cant handle ppl who say only PURE STR BOW is better... since i killed them all on same lvl without sox gear !
Good luck to your tanker bow. low damage + low defense + no hp lol
I would prefer High damage + low defense + avarage hp to kill my enemy befor they can really hurt me

Peace

@jadekiss

Really, it's impossible to level up all the way to lv 150 without lightning
so you won't see any pure str with 150 fire i think



*Even a bot commit suicide if he has to level up towards lv 150

LMAO ! commit suicide hehe good one
true i wouldnt take fire instead of light

I hope this thread is still going when the 90 cap comes (a year or more from now) and good lord I hope SRO is still going if they ever raise the cap to 150. You guys trip me out sometimes. Play to have fun and before some wisecrack asks "Is it fun to die all the time with your crap build?".........I play for fun 100% legit so 80 cap is a ways off (granted I have limited play time) 90 cap is a dream, 150 cap is quite frankly a nightmare. I mainly come on PVE, quest some, chat, stall, shop, grind, explore, mainly mainly get on and party with my quild and unionmate, make movies, crazy screenshots, some times job, rarely PVP - unless it is goofing off with union/guild. My mates are amazed at the damage I can get from my hybrid build at my level. I usually grind orange mobs but I just go do crazy stuff and have a ton of fun. I love my build and have really no desire to be a strong PVPer. But that's just me.

K...well have fun with your low level bowman chars.

Low defense and low hp? Dude are you stupid? Pure str = HIGH PHYSICAL DEFENSE and HIGH HP. See this is why you all think this build owns because you don't even know what your talking about...

I'm done talking on this stupid topic you guys don't even know what your saying.

Pure STR Bow = low/average damage + constant and strong crits + high hp, imo that is better then 70:70 but it doesn't really matter because this game is just for fun like Wrath said.

The crit is almost the same there isnt a big different !
Str bow has only more hp nothing else but compared to a glavie they dont have much hp
i prefer dealing high damage in short time to kill my enemy and not depending on crit !

This build sux for bow trust me... This builds suits to spear...

Lol man , don't be noob ..
Yes Pure str in garment have 10% more phy def than 70:70 in protector because 70:70 is hybrid INT at main ... But he will take 15~20% more phy def from Cold mastery ... Pure STR don't take cold mastery .. so hybrid with cold still have more phy def ..

And yes Pure STR have a lot More HP ... almost 40% more HP ... that seems a lot but ...! Hybrid have 40% snow shield .. snow shield is damge absorbtion not just HP ... If you don't understand what's damge absorbtion I will tell an example ...

If you heared that there are euro builds now you should hear about dagger ... shouldn't you ?
Yes , there is a str build called rogue with dagger with more +32% phy attack on his weapon than your bow , with more +61% phy attack passive than your phy attack buff , +75% phy attack from dagger desperate , + some phy attack in dagger desperate too , + some phy attack in stealth mode ...

you know that thing called dagger ?!

He have skill with bonus (+375%) called Prick... you must know it because this skill will do the highest damge in game ever when crit after pure offering skill ..

ok then , this Prick skill do +21 K damge when crit on pure str glavier in garment and he die in 1 hit ... off course your poor Pure str bow that have only 19k HP and wear protector too will die in 1 hit too ... your pure str build will not help you against that demon ...

Now You think that hybrid 70:70 with too small HP (13.5k HP only) will die also in 1 hit ... right ?

Ok it's simple ... 21 k damge on 70:70 in protector with cold will take 5~10% less damge .. we will ignore that and say he will do the same 21 k damge .. and he die in 1 hit too .. BUT ..
In snow shield 40% damge absorb he will take damge equal to :
= 21 - (21 * 0.4)
= 21 - 8.4 = 12.6 k damge ... remember that he have 13.5 k HP .. SO HE WILL NOT DIE in 1 hit ...

70:70 build can tank better than pure str glavier not only poor str bow .. you must understand that ... so shut your mouth up and go to with your str build away from this topic and stop saying shit \because you are the one who say things he don't know ..

lol elnawawi.. i like you man xD you know exactly what im thinking of
btw dont go to hard with darkmaster.... if he fight against a 70:70 bow he will see that his bow wont have a big chance of winning (depending on crit lol) nvm i should stop befor he will blame me again >.<

so peace lol

lol man .. pure str bow have no chance against my 1:1 hybrid glavier .. I kill them in 3~4 skills and they can't kill me in 12 skills when using only 24% snow shield although they have their 350% skill while i don't have skill more than 250% ..
thier chance only when they get 3 crits on row ..

Also hybrid spear users will own all Pure characters .. great damge and still tank even with no snow shield (watch KAWS last vedio) ..

Also Hybrid blader will tank better than pure and and will do greater damge ...

After euro builds ... all pure str characters will die in 1 crit of rogue or in 1 pure offering and all int characters die in non crit skill from rogue ... only hybrid can stay alive against this hell ..

Also all pure STR characters can't kill warriors fast enough and warriors kill them all fast enough .... And All pure INT can't 1 hit wizards and wizards can kill them all in 1 hit ..

So Pure chinese character Now is noob word enough ...

Pure Chinese VS pure euro : not vaild
Pure Chinese VS hybrid Chinese : not vaild
Pure Chinese VS hybrid euro : vaild (not possible characters)
Pure Chinese VS Pure Chinese : vaild

That's the only thing will work for pure chinese is to fight other pure chinese = what so boring game ...

The only reason Now to be pure Is to sacrifice complete mastery to get Force mastery for (res/heal/vital spot... etc) because hybrid have big problem to have only weapon mastery + 1 force mastery (for imbue) + the force mastery ... only pure can be acceptable to be that ..

True.. i have a rogue 52 myself and he can almost kill every build lol
But i like hybrid chinese builds they are so flexible ^^

Elnawawi you took the words right out my mouth
Total agreement

also i even doubt pure str in garment got more phy defence then 70:70 in protector...The status received from your stats itself isn't really much worth compared to your armour

A level 40 can kill lv 80 in non gear for example
*only lil problem is you can just use snow shield for 2 mins

@darkmaster21
I've enough of your
Gget your Archer to lvl 73 like mine mastery at lvl 69. Go try to kill Yarkan.
Start talking when you can kill Yarkan using your 73 pure str archer.
Its obvious that your opinion are biased. There is no PEFECT Archer. Every diff build has its pros n cons!

Hey guys, stop talking with darkmaster21 he already said that he will not post anymore here and I think is the best considering that he reapeat the same on all his posts.

I think that now several people is getting to the cap with this build, so the best is try to leave here real facts of this build from people that use it. In my opinion if this post keep alive it should be only adding sugestion about skills and pvp tactics and stop discussing if it is good or bad because it will never get to an agreement.


Some of my tactics:

Against strong glaviers:
If you couldnt kill him during the snow shield time you can easily make time again using: phantom+arrow combo+strong bow and wait if you get stun, if is not stunned phantom+arrow combo+devil arrow and phantom again+arrow combo+strong and wait again for stun. You can keep doing this 1 minute and he will not have enough time to kill you, but you can do it if you get a good stun with crits meanwhile he run chassing you.

Against strong ints:
If it is sword and shield: arrow combo+strong bow+arrow combo+devil arrow+arrow combo+strong bow+..., until you get a crit on strong bow or devil arrow . Dont forget to have a good shield with you if he kd you and use the pils to avoid division, bleed or impotent (pils are expensives but you will waste more on pots and you will die a lot more if you dont use them).

If it is spear is more or less the same, but do phantom if he is a close distance to avoid the GSM after nuke.

If a I see is a easy fight I just tank them with strong skills and make time with arrow combo, but there are a lot of dispersion on the damage depending on your oponent with all the sun gear on this cap.

Thanks tomiotar for the tips.

My problem is everyone who isn't 73+ won't have cancellation moves. In fact most of us don't have devil arrow, and the lower book really is kinda crappy for pvp. Currently they also took away our ability to chain strongbow as well.

So what do low lvls do?
The only thing that I see will save us is well timed phantoms. The problem is my phantom never works right. half the time I end up doing non skilled hits while waiting for phantom to go off, or i start running away instead of phantoming. By the time phantom finally kicks in They have potted back to full health etc. etc.

So is there any hints on how to get phantom to work better?

Also Without being able to chain strongbow I highly recommend taking nukes for pvp, at least until you get devil arrow. Even our very hybrid low hitting nukes will still hit pure str in garms for decent damage.

My bow char (friends now playing it, i quitted sro) is now level 52... Havn't got any stun skills or w/e.

I do use phantom walk alot, it seems like a feeling...You have to think something like 10 seconds forward what is gonna happen, In my experience phantom walk will kick in very late when you've already activated 2 skills (for example Strongbow and anti devil)

i'll try to explain
99 out of 100 people will activate 2 skills on their hotbar when they will attack someone (To prevend non skill hits). When you've activated 2 phantom walk won't work! Wait till your last skill that you've pressed is almost complete (for example when you see the blue glow of anti devil) and then use phantom walk...Mostly this works for me

I use frost nova in this levels in pvp...i spam my 2 books, since they got 50% of totally freeze someone (you can't be immuume for that) it saved me lots of times, and it's buying your time for phantom

long range+disabled enemy=dead enemy
I hope ive been clear

lol ..
That's why we both belive in this build and love it ..



You think that I just throw words I don't know ?!
I calculated it :

Base phy def = phy def(item) + [STR * phy reinforce(item)]

it's easy to calculate every clothes item by this formula and know the excat def to compare ..

lvl 80 Pure str bow with full NPC garment set degree 7 Maxed with 55 STR blue (391 Total STR) have :
452.6 phy def
lvl 80 70:70 bow with full NPC protector set degree 7 Maxed with 55 STR blue (249 Total STR) have :
410.5 phy def


That's because character stats have it's effect only when items equiped as it will multipile by reinforce when you equipe gear not in (non gear) ..