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elnawawi
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:40 am |
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And after all of this rogue still the best in fair pvp ...
you should see this lvl 72 rogue first before talking about pvp :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsth2Yome3k
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:25 pm |
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i already have both those vids listed in the guide but thx for trying to help appreciate it
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LeatherRebel
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:27 pm |
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Godly guide, I love it 
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Olympe
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:04 pm |
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RMP
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:03 pm |
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So far XemnasXD have a nice piece of work here.
IMHO its time to repost this in the Guides & Tuts section.
Salu2.
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FlawLessx
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:15 pm |
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[qoute= XemnasXD]you gotta be 1337 to look that good [/quote]
What 1337 Means??
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SweetTooth
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:25 am |
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i was wondering what places you would suggest farming. im currently lvl 57 and grinding at sonars but i really would like to know where in takla i can grind with relative safety. since i run crossbow extreme all the time and 2 hit everything up to lvl 62 my only problem is the damned agro and giant spawns (the caves are out till im higher lvl than the mobs in there sadly ). so are there any places where giants seem to spawn less andy where the ratio of agro to non agro mobs is favorable to the non agro? i cant seem to find that one nice spot at the worms and have died more than a lvls worth of times  any help would be appreciated.
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elnawawi
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:59 pm |
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SweetTooth wrote: i was wondering what places you would suggest farming. im currently lvl 57 and grinding at sonars but i really would like to know where in takla i can grind with relative safety. since i run crossbow extreme all the time and 2 hit everything up to lvl 62 my only problem is the damned agro and giant spawns (the caves are out till im higher lvl than the mobs in there sadly ). so are there any places where giants seem to spawn less andy where the ratio of agro to non agro mobs is favorable to the non agro? i cant seem to find that one nice spot at the worms and have died more than a lvls worth of times  any help would be appreciated.
I think that grinding/farming at penons lvl 54 is the best for a rogue ..
farming in talkamkan will not be so fast as the spwan rate isn't that good and euro charecters haven't speed buffs (you have only if you have bard as sub) ..
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Etrad
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:06 am |
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elnawawi wrote: I think that grinding/farming at penons lvl 54 is the best for a rogue .. farming in talkamkan will not be so fast as the spwan rate isn't that good and euro charecters haven't speed buffs (you have only if you have bard as sub) ..
Hmm, i guess its better to farm at lvl 53 (9 gap = mastery 44, and you get new lvls for power shot/long shot/crossbow powerup/crossbow extreme). Since I'm bard sub and have a pet, soloing shouldn't be a problem at all (pet can tank party mobs and giants).
But since I do have bard sub, is it good enough to farm at lvl 80? or is penons x10 better?
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Selan88
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:18 pm |
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realy nice guide ^^
just one question... being a warlock/cleric i wonder why you think that warlocks are so strong against rogues. I get oneshot by almost any rogue on my lvl and since i dont have any stealth detection a rogue on lvl 30+ could just stealth and do his strongest attack to oneshot any warlock that isnt hybrid or did alot of alchemy (not even sure if this would help) .
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torinchibi
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:23 pm |
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Quote: Stealth
This is your master piece. The silence before the strike.....the terror afterwards. You are able to move amongst your enemies without ever revealing your presence. Once you cast stealth you'll see a great drop in moving speed, The Dagger tree has skillz that can make you a bit faster but not by alot. The Stealth skill has about a 20 sec cool down and at lvl 1 last 60 secs. You can recast it anytime after the cool down and the 60 sec will just starting over. If SRO is lagging or your compy is lagging then you might be visible for a mili sec while recasting.....its unlucky when this happens but such is life. Dagger Rogues have a skill that increases the damage done while in stealth. Once you attack your Stealth goes away so lets use our brain here. The first skill you use in stealth should be a phy attack skill some off you might accidentally use the poison imbue but try to get out the habit. Lets summarize using Stealth.
-20 Sec cooldown -last 60 sec (initially) -Lowers moving speed alot -Daggers get higher damage when stealthed -If you use a skill Stealth goes away -If you are attacked Stealth goes away -You can be detected by skillz on the Fire Tree -You can be detected by Warriors -You can be detected (very temporarily) by Wizards -You can be detected by De-Stealth pots
Wizard detect skills cannot be used against stealth. They only work on Invisible, so against other wizards. You will notice that your own detect skills only work against other rogues. I am pointing this out so it could be fixed.
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:05 am |
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torinchibi wrote: Quote: Stealth
This is your master piece. The silence before the strike.....the terror afterwards. You are able to move amongst your enemies without ever revealing your presence. Once you cast stealth you'll see a great drop in moving speed, The Dagger tree has skillz that can make you a bit faster but not by alot. The Stealth skill has about a 20 sec cool down and at lvl 1 last 60 secs. You can recast it anytime after the cool down and the 60 sec will just starting over. If SRO is lagging or your compy is lagging then you might be visible for a mili sec while recasting.....its unlucky when this happens but such is life. Dagger Rogues have a skill that increases the damage done while in stealth. Once you attack your Stealth goes away so lets use our brain here. The first skill you use in stealth should be a phy attack skill some off you might accidentally use the poison imbue but try to get out the habit. Lets summarize using Stealth.
-20 Sec cooldown -last 60 sec (initially) -Lowers moving speed alot -Daggers get higher damage when stealthed -If you use a skill Stealth goes away -If you are attacked Stealth goes away -You can be detected by skillz on the Fire Tree -You can be detected by Warriors -You can be detected (very temporarily) by Wizards -You can be detected by De-Stealth pots
Wizard detect skills cannot be used against stealth. They only work on Invisible, so against other wizards. You will notice that your own detect skills only work against other rogues. I am pointing this out so it could be fixed.
Im sorry but you are wrong. Wizards can detect you i was PvPing one when they first released Euro and when i noticed a weird icon where my buffs where and then found myself nuked i was very surprised. If its not supposed to work on stealth that is possible But it it does work against stealth and it has killed me before so there is no need to fix anything. But you are right our destealth skill only works against rogues which is ghey imo hopefully JM will fix this or something to even out the playing field. Thx for your input.
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join993
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Post subject: OMG! AMAZING GUIDE!! Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:39 am |
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i just love this guide, thx for puting it up here! 
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:59 pm |
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Update:
Added a new video and updated the text in some sections. I fee like i left something out so if you see any way to improve it plz let me know.
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dcninja
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:21 am |
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i have a hunter rogue... what's best sub...
any info on warlock sub and why?
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XemnasXD
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:46 am |
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dcninja wrote: i have a hunter rogue... what's best sub...
any info on warlock sub and why?
All the info on the Warlock sub is in the guide...thats about as much info anyone has but its enough to base a character off of if your feeling adventurous...
Sub should be based on the weapon you use most often. In PvP Cleric/warlock is the best but only because of defense and higher damage. In PvE Bard is best. Xbow works well with bard Dagger best with cleric. Using that info and your playing style you'll have to choose a sub that fits you best. Just weigh the pros and cons of each sub until you get one you like
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Deacon
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:35 pm |
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Learned some stuff from this guide  Good job making it !
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magisuns
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:00 pm |
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NOW SUM1 KNOES HOW TO MAKE A GUD GUIDE ^^
after reading this i had 2 fix up my isro rogue :3
thnx 4 the help btw 
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Jstar1
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:39 am |
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just wanted to say good guide
its probably because of this I made rogue >.>
I should have looked at other guides and researched more but I stilll love my rogue
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Jutsu
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:09 am |
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very nicely done.
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KittyKat
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:38 pm |
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Awesome guide  . I loved to see the video of a dude killing thieves with stealth on. I think to get owned like this is friggin frustrating 
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Merrir
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:39 pm |
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it says rogues will never use mp, but rogue skills do take up mp, so should i increase my int or not?
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KittyKat
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:40 pm |
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TOTALY NO! U gotta be pure STR
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Merrir
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:50 pm |
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what deals more damage, bard or warlock?
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Merrir
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:54 pm |
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without skills i mean, i just started with a rogue/sub bard, i usually lure in an enemy with harp then attack with daggers
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KittyKat
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:55 pm |
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Merrir
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:15 pm |
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you've been helping me alot today haven't you? 
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KittyKat
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:30 am |
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Erm... I gues so 
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urtoasty
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:11 pm |
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does it matter what skills you use or should you use all of them?
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