Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

Sethzor · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 368 **Location:**

i read all pages and u guys who thinks str is better build how can u know .. did u try this build? no .. u are only idiots who are lazy to do hard work and only go pure str... plz dont say anything till u TRY this build ... this youtube videos that u gave .. i bet that hybrid bow ISNT THIS HYBRID 70:70... u cant say something when u didnt try it...

jadekiss nice work really

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:50 pm

@rarensu39 ... i think i already mentioned how to build the 70:70 char ?
but ok i repeat it just for you 1 time !
1. if you lvl up you take your clothes of and weapon
2. press c and see the phy balance and mag balance (usually your phy balance is higher than your mag balance)
3. at the first lvl you need to put all 3 points on INT but keep an eye on your balance u need to raise up your mag balance to 70% and raise down your phy balance also to 70%
4. after your reach the 70:70 balance try to keep it on the balance
5. later on some higher lvls get a lot of INT anf STR equipment to raise up the 70:70 balance to 80:80 balance or higher (thats is possible now through the new alchemy )

i think that was it ?

@Sethzor yeah pure ways are easy to build you cant kinda do something wrong-> put all points on str or int
but did any1 dare to try something out ? nope they just read pure chars are the best and think like that ! but ok its everyones opinion
btw thanks.. i wasted a lot of time for this guide and then i see that some ppl just blame me for that but ok...its just my opinion

rarensu39 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:18 pm

thx. now i jus have to find ut where to put the skills

Eukanuba · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 171

rarensu39 wrote:

thx. now i jus have to find ut where to put the skills

As far as skills go, any standard archer build should do you fine. The idea behind the hybrid archer is to sacrifice some HP in exchange for greater damage.

As far as PvE goes, I believe this is a great idea. When grinding on mobs of the same level, my str archer will use up hp/mp pots at a ratio of about 1:8. I'd use up even less hp pots if I don't bother with any giants. In this case, there's really no need for the excessive amounts HP. I might as well use the extra damage.

PvP, however, might be a different story...

Tetsumaru · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 361

also consider the attacks you will be using~

fire imbue is 100%
devil arrow is 350%

therefore, devil arrow has 3.5 times more effect on your attack than fire imbue. the physical part is 3.5 times more important than the magic part.

you have to look at what skills youre using~

for a nuker, they use imbue, which is 100%, but they also use nukes, ranging from 250-300% (lion shout dont count, it sucks) BUT! this is all magic, giving a total of 350-400% magic in a nuke, no physical. thats why nukes are higher damage, because the magic part has a higher %.

magic doesnt have a profound effect on bow when youre only using an imbue.

IguanaRampage · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 2483 **Location:** Changing

Sethzor wrote:

i read all pages and u guys who thinks str is better build how can u know .. did u try this build? no .. u are only idiots who are lazy to do hard work and only go pure str... plz dont say anything till u TRY this build ... this youtube videos that u gave .. i bet that hybrid bow ISNT THIS HYBRID 70:70... u cant say something when u didnt try it...

jadekiss nice work really

both int hybrid. It's dam close. And reread the 6th and 7th pages my friend.

Sethzor · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 368 **Location:**

int hybrid cant compare to this build xP but i didnt try it so i wont talk too much ^^

IguanaRampage · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 2483 **Location:** Changing

Sethzor wrote:

int hybrid cant compare to this build xP but i didnt try it so i wont talk too much ^^

well the actual balances are either 69 phys 70 mag or 70 phys 69 mag. Either way, it is an int hybrid. Here's what I use to support me.
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... ofile=3681

You are correct though, it probably does not have as much int as the archer in the video.

Eukanuba · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 171

Tetsumaru wrote:

also consider the attacks you will be using~

fire imbue is 100%
devil arrow is 350%

therefore, devil arrow has 3.5 times more effect on your attack than fire imbue. the physical part is 3.5 times more important than the magic part.

you have to look at what skills youre using~

for a nuker, they use imbue, which is 100%, but they also use nukes, ranging from 250-300% (lion shout dont count, it sucks) BUT! this is all magic, giving a total of 350-400% magic in a nuke, no physical. thats why nukes are higher damage, because the magic part has a higher %.

magic doesnt have a profound effect on bow when youre only using an imbue.

I think you'd have a point if the descriptions on the skills were accurate. Supposedly, they only affect one type of damage, but I think there are some areas where the line is blurred.

Just a quick example here, I jumped on my lvl 15 archer for a little field test. Mind you, I'm not saying the results are absolutely conclusive, but they are indicative of something. Stats are as follows

Str: 37 Int: 79
Phy attack: 78 ~ 92
Mag attack: 145 ~ 173
Phy/Mag balance: 61/89
Lighting mastery: 7, lighting imbue book 1, lvl 1.
Pacheon master: 7, Anti-devil bow book 1, lvl 1.

Results (averages of five hits registered against mangyangs)
Regular attack: 55
Anti-Devil: 121
Imbued hit: 243
Imbued Anti-Devil: 456

The difference in damage between the imbued hit and the regular hit is 188, which is what we can conclude is the actual damage from the imbue.

So if we take the imbued anti-devil and subtract the non-imbued anti-devil damage, we see that the imbue damage is 335. This is about a 78% increase from the normal imbue damage.

It is clear at this stage that the skill has had an effect on the damage the imbue produces. Whether or not this will change as the character grows, I can't say at this moment.

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:57 pm

btw hey all,
to those who are making/trying this build right now i need a feedback of you guys how you like or dislike it !

i prefer this build and on my opinion it is a good one a very good one

thx in advanced

Waisha · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 3216 **Location:** wat

Jadekiss wrote:

btw hey all,
to those who are making/trying this build right now i need a feedback of you guys how you like or dislike it !

i prefer this build and on my opinion it is a good one a very good one

thx in advanced

I tried it out with my lvl 5 stall char. It suckz00red.

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:00 pm

@W3GAN your are kidding i think i dont need to comment that lvl 5 ...tzz ok but its your opinion

Kitty · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1818 **Location:** MA/PA

I owned a hybrid bow my level. Nuff said?

Sethzor · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 368 **Location:**

omg kitty u didnt own this hybrid build k stfu bb

chrisssj2 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 39

I agree that hybrid bow may do more average damage and may be better than a full str bow. But it will not be better than a good full str glavie/blader. ull have such low def and hp, the glavie will cripple you.

Btw what attacks u use when u go pvp?
u just use bow skills+imbue, or nukes?

btw saying taht you owned this and that, does mEAN 0%!
he could be wearing lousy equip, not fully farmed, noob skilled player, etc etc etc etc you can only say that when exact same skilllevel and same npc equip for example

Dempster · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 378

Tetsumaru wrote:

also consider the attacks you will be using~

fire imbue is 100%
devil arrow is 350%

therefore, devil arrow has 3.5 times more effect on your attack than fire imbue. the physical part is 3.5 times more important than the magic part.

you have to look at what skills youre using~

for a nuker, they use imbue, which is 100%, but they also use nukes, ranging from 250-300% (lion shout dont count, it sucks) BUT! this is all magic, giving a total of 350-400% magic in a nuke, no physical. thats why nukes are higher damage, because the magic part has a higher %.

magic doesnt have a profound effect on bow when youre only using an imbue.

exactly, why would you add int on an archer?, lol :banghead:

you cannot dispute what this guy's said - and he's absolutely right

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:30 pm

i dont comment stupid statements anymore i think i duscuss that now long enough and calculate all the things already and show them here ....
btw. lots of ppl try out this build now and pmed me with a thx etc.
they said this build rocks and it works very well ..
so i think i reached my ai to show ppl that pure ways arent the best always !

if anyone got a question which isnt posted here already can ask
but i wont comment any stupid statements !

chrisssj2 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 39

I admit urs aint bad but face it Pure is still better m8..... Most of us agree on that. Come to Oasis and ill show u that pure owns hybrid.

EwwBabel · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 716 **Location:**

Dempster wrote:

Jadekiss wrote:

@Dempster rofl u show us that ur a newbie at silkroad u play ur char because u read full str user are the best or full int.... u will never find out what is better if u dont do ur own experience idiot... if some1 tell u to jump from a house because he said u its cool and the best way to learn how to fly u would jump huh ? rofl
hybrids build are the best silkroad IS NOT BASED ON PURE BUILD get that in ur brain if the maker of silkraod want to do that it would be a boring game every1 has a pure build they are fighting each other wasting pots ... its not a duel anymore only a potwar...
who the ..... told u im gonna make a 50:50 ? im gonna make 80:80 u will have still lots of hp andn ice dmg more than a ..... glavier go to aege make a full str glavier and lvl up then fight against Wind he is kinda 70+ now has a 80:80 bow char und u will die for sure noob ask the ppl in aege ask them who is the strongest bower in that server every1 will tell u Wind
only noobs dare to tell that pure players are the best..... no experience tzzzz

@hellsharpt nah bow has middle mag and phy attack power so why shouldnt it go hybrid ? just wait till some1 in ur server has a 80:80 build and u will see what happen to u if u are pure...whatever u are int or str...u will die but it also depends on weapon and equip

wtf? who the **** is you? I have a 69 pure strength bow char, 72 pure strength fire glaive, 70 pure int nuker on oasis, you should come visit one time, you will eat your words, i find it amusing you PLAN on building a "80:80" char, and talk shit here?

80% mag, 80% phys...

HMMMM lets think now, if you want BOTH stats the same whats that mean? THAT YOU'RE MAKING A 50/50 PEICE OF SHIT! goodluck killing anyone

personally, I think anyone who claims hybrids are best is just too lazy to restart their char, and is hoping and hoping they can make do with what they have.

i'd own you if you came around my server.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

chrisssj2 wrote:

I agree that hybrid bow may do more average damage and may be better than a full str bow. But it will not be better than a good full str glavie/blader. ull have such low def and hp, the glavie will cripple you.

Btw what attacks u use when u go pvp?
u just use bow skills+imbue, or nukes?

btw saying taht you owned this and that, does mEAN 0%!
he could be wearing lousy equip, not fully farmed, noob skilled player, etc etc etc etc you can only say that when exact same skilllevel and same npc equip for example

Glaivers are tough, if I tank them, I'm a dead bowman. The only way I'm able to kill a glaiver is to phantom walk away and fire anything I can before he reaches me. By the time he does reach me, I'll try to phantom walk away again and do the same thing until either one of us dies. Usually I'll win if I use this tactic.

If you ever get stun, just toss on your shield and try to phantom walk away.

I use nukes, but currently only for fun and PVE.

asdfff · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 11

umm the biuld would take forever to get =(
inorder for any hybrid biuld to pwn, u need very high lvl.
given the current cap is 80, u'll need at least lvl 76.
and if im not mistaken, to get 80:80 at any lvl needs 88 bonus stat points.
so you will need lots of $$ to invest on your armour pieces.
theres 11 pieces of equipment that you can wear( asuming theres no sheild)
so at least u need 4 int/str on each. Now dats hard to get. and if u invest your money on low lvl sets such as lvl 68 - 72. it juss means u have to invest the same amount, if not, more of $ again later on. unless u have soX series.

thats how i look at it. hybrid biulds require LOTS AND LOTS of money.

p.s at lvl 80 wif lvl 60 passive spear. you only get 12740 hp. wifout hp bonus from armour.
wif bonus (max, doubt any1 will) it would be 17740 which is still only 3/4 of a full str.
same time ur magic atk is a LOT lower than ful int.
and ur crits are weake than full strs.
so wifout good items, honestly, dis biuld is crap.
i would recommend this kinda biuld for your 2nd or thrid so on.
Dont make dis biuld ur first char, cuz u will NOT have enuff $ to back it up.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

asdfff wrote:

umm the biuld would take forever to get =(
inorder for any hybrid biuld to pwn, u need very high lvl.
given the current cap is 80, u'll need at least lvl 76.
and if im not mistaken, to get 80:80 at any lvl needs 88 bonus stat points.
so you will need lots of $$ to invest on your armour pieces.
theres 11 pieces of equipment that you can wear( asuming theres no sheild)
so at least u need 4 int/str on each. Now dats hard to get. and if u invest your money on low lvl sets such as lvl 68 - 72. it juss means u have to invest the same amount, if not, more of $ again later on. unless u have soX series.
thats how i look at it. hybrid biulds require LOTS AND LOTS of money.

p.s at lvl 80 wif lvl 60 passive spear. you only get 12740 hp. wifout hp bonus from armour.
wif bonus (max, doubt any1 will) it would be 17740 which is still only 3/4 of a full str.
same time ur magic atk is a LOT lower than ful int.
and ur crits are weake than full strs.
so wifout good items, honestly, dis biuld is crap.
i would recommend this kinda biuld for your 2nd or thrid so on.
Dont make dis biuld ur first char, cuz u will NOT have enuff $ to back it up.

Are you kidding me? I do great in PVP and when I wasn't in the "high" levels (30+). I am able kill players who are atleast 2-3 levels higher than me. And after getting the SoS bow I got at 42, I do shit loads better.

The thing about this build, it requires a lot of SP.

More money makes any build better, which is why gear is the greatest factor in successfully pvping.

Eukanuba · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 171

asdfff wrote:

p.s at lvl 80 wif lvl 60 passive spear. you only get 12740 hp. wifout hp bonus from armour.
wif bonus (max, doubt any1 will) it would be 17740 which is still only 3/4 of a full str.
same time ur magic atk is a LOT lower than ful int.
and ur crits are weake than full strs.
so wifout good items, honestly, dis biuld is crap.
i would recommend this kinda biuld for your 2nd or thrid so on.
Dont make dis biuld ur first char, cuz u will NOT have enuff $ to back it up.

People keep saying stuff like this without realizing it works the other way, too...

Yes, the hybrid has less HP than a full str, but it still has more than a full int.

Yeah, a full str crits harder than a hybrid, but hybrids crit harder than a full int.

Yes, the hybrid's mag attack is less than that of a full int, but it's still significantly higher than a full str.

It keeps on going for every argument you can come up with. The hybrid will always occupy a middle ground between the pure builds' strengths and weaknesses. This is the nature of the word.

Another note: everyone who says "I've owned this kind of guy," or "I was clobbered by that kind of build" needs to shut up unless both parties involved were using 100%, unaltered NPC gear.

Kitty · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1818 **Location:** MA/PA

Sethzor wrote:

omg kitty u didnt own this hybrid build k stfu bb

How about you listen to some truth. It was a 1:1 hybrid bow, and I owned it in pvp. Same lvl. Out of 5 rounds, I won all 5. He had an sos garm set, and an sos +4 bow with a crit of 10.

Now, kindly stfu.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Eh, double posted.

Zing · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 568 **Location:**

Hello_Kitty wrote:

Sethzor wrote:

omg kitty u didnt own this hybrid build k stfu bb

How about you listen to some truth. It was a 1:1 hybrid bow, and I owned it in pvp. Same lvl. Out of 5 rounds, I won all 5. He had an sos garm set, and an sos +4 bow with a crit of 10.

Now, kindly stfu.

And wouldn't this be a 1:1 not a 70% build?
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... ofile=6765

70% 70% is 191 STR, 224 INT

taintofsleep · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 723 **Location:**

Hey I have a question... instead of going cold could you go like for hueksal and get the hp passive?

kabu · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 19 **Location:**

Man i Love this build Thank u Jade kiss Sp is a must but other than this build is awesome im i have 2 kind one with ice and one with fire and they r fcking awesome.

IguanaRampage · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 2483 **Location:** Changing

Zing wrote:

Hello_Kitty wrote:

Sethzor wrote:

omg kitty u didnt own this hybrid build k stfu bb

How about you listen to some truth. It was a 1:1 hybrid bow, and I owned it in pvp. Same lvl. Out of 5 rounds, I won all 5. He had an sos garm set, and an sos +4 bow with a crit of 10.

Now, kindly stfu.

And wouldn't this be a 1:1 not a 70% build?
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... ofile=6765

70% 70% is 191 STR, 224 INT

dam close. It is an int hybrid that is close enough to 1:1 to by loosely compared with it. One of the reasons you win is you have an SOS bow, which is tough to beat. Anyway, if you are in armor (not sure) a good nuker would be able to 1 or 2 hit you... try it out fight a hybrid int (preferrably) or nuker with SOS spear and a good protector set. I would like to hear the results.

Jadekiss · **Posted:** Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:41 am

@taintofsleep sure u can go heuksal for hp instead of ice for defense its up to you

@kabu np dude =) i hope i have fun with your new char

... a lil comment you cant compared sos stuffs again ! that will never end... but nvm

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