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Spears: Int users
Those who use nukers as primary can kill me in 2-3 hits with nuke. With strongbow, I can kill them in one hit. Without strongbow, I'll have to use devil arrow and berserker arrow to kill.

Now, because of my range increase, nukers have a hard time on getting 2 nukes on me, because I usually destroy them once they start up a nuke or after they've done 1 nuke.

Shield + Sword: Int users
Shield users are another story. Their blockage is a killer, which can screw you over if block was acquire. Whenever they do block I would just phantom away, with probably a shield on for the run then switch to bow to start back up my attacks. Samething goes with shield, one strongbow would kill them and if I don't strongbow, It would take me about 2 skills to take them down.

The lower their magical damage, the more nukes they will need to kill me. But, because of their lesser magical damage, they'd have more HP, which would give me a harder time in killing them.

I cannot be conclusive on whether who's hybrid or pure. But those who did use nukes near my level as their primary could kill me in 2-3 nukes, if they can get those nukes on me.

I haven't yet to fight a SoS spear user near my level, they're usually around level 46-48. And I use protector gear.

Thought I do not obtain exactly 70% 70% balance, but I am near it, having 75% str 64% int

@Zing it always depends on the equipment...
through the CCF'ler and the new alchemy it makes it harder now
ppl who have the money to push up their queipment are stronger than a normal guy...
btw are u going to make the 80:80 ?
and how do you think about your char now ?

i am sorry but you sir, are a noob
have you ever heard about kd?

For the hp part, i agree wif u.
but i disagree on the following:
Its true hybrid crits harder than int, but since wen does int need crits?
Its true ur dmg is higher than str, but still lower than int. So now, wuts the pt? In wars, highest dmg + highest hp do better than those who are sumwhere in the middle.
1 v 1 wise, i guess this biuld may own, but hey, no1 really tested out.
All we have so far is that Wind owns wif dis build, but how many of u here actually saw him in pvp? maybe he was pvping sum1 at a different skil lvl?
Still. My point stands, THIS BIULD IS $$$$$$$
p.s maybe sum alchemy luck too

Hey jadekiss would fire shield be a skill too get?

Wow, insults all ready? Try and stay away from calling people names, it would just mean you're an asshole. Their KDs are weak, which wouldn't even kill me if they do both skills (kd and strike) on me, especially if I had shield on. Once I get up, I'd ghost phantom away.



I'm giving my experiences through the battles I've been through, and yes gear is the greatest factor in battling. Yes, I'll be making the 80:80 build. With the extra mag. balance I hit harder and opens the option of using nukes.

To get most raw HP, you must sacrifice raw damage power, and visa versa. There is no such build that can have the maximum HP and maximum damage power in this game.

Your entire argument can be turned on its head easily. You've acknowledged that a hybrid will out-damage a full str, but will do less than a full int. What's the point? You've already answered the question. The point is that you can out-damage full str characters. If you are asserting that hybrids are bad because they do less damage than a full int, then by your logic, full str characters must be really bad because they do even less damage.

You are correct in saying that int characters don't need to crit. But that is the same as saying oranges are citrus fruits; while both statements are true, they don't apply to what I was saying. The poster I was responding to said that str characters crit harder than hybrids, and thus hybrids are bad. I illustrated that by his logic, int characters are bad because their crits are even weaker than a hybrid's.

Once again, hybrids occupy the middle ground, which, depending on your play style, might be exactly where you want to be.

And don't even bother mentioning alchemy. If we are going to evaluate the value of a character build, you must judge it solely on the build itself. This includes using sealed gear as well. The truest test of a character's strength lies in using only NPC equipment.

Er... but but but what if I find a white bow with a 9 crit would that count as npc?

dude, i wasnt callin you names...jeez
noob=newbie, new to something=dunno about certain things
chill jeez..

@taintofsleep... u can take it if u want to save money thorugh abnormal stats... this skill is good against freezing etc. but u can also buy large pills ?!

@Zing ahh oh i see

@IceSworder relaxe dude !
no comment at all =)

of course. Pills are useless against the powers of a pure str ice archer and arrow combos. Sorry Im not jadekiss but this is imperative to making your build the best it can be....

k, thanks iguana I'm going for it.

Noob is regularly used as an insult. And, no, I am no newbie, I've played this game long enough to be considered as an average player. I've gone through experiences which was obtain through my battles between shield/spear int users to elaborate.

Just because I did not add in the option of knock down does not label me as an noob, newbie, or new player.

Here's a tip, before you submit your post, please reread and find out if it's a necessity.

Btw any question ?
im gonna be inactive here in the forum a while (no time) so if you have a question then post them and i answer if not im going to be inactive for a while first

Okay Jadekiss, i believe in this build, but i first wanna see some evidence that this build would really own. Please post some movies of your char.
I have a full str archerr myself, and his is really maing me think tot turn hybrid, but im still not sure. Thanks

@UnDutchable how can i post a video of a lvl 24 bow char with 9 lvl gap ?
i think if some here test this build out and is already higher than me because im lazy and dont have time he(she should post a video of her/his char to show how this build work !
or just ask them
i can say only this build rock so try it out or let it be

This build is good, no questions, I like this ideea, there is one thing "stoping you", the extra ammount of gold u have to put in your gear. Most of u will say that u have to put cash in your gear even if u are pure BUT in this build u have to be accurate. With the new Hp pots in hotan pure str chars have an extra and will use them in their advantage.
My opinion is that with same gear, meaning 80:80 with this build and 110+:38+ with pure str and with new hp pots, in a pvp with same bows(crit10 and other stats the same) pure str will own the 80:80 build due to it's low hp. (Pure str using garm and farmed).
This is my opinion and I hope you guys can answer me but without anger and name calling. Thank you

huh Jadekiss why u tell us this build
many people dont know whats bow build

ok sorry b'cause i not good in speak English
but to tell u all what great bow build?
i can tell with simple example

pls look guide in game
only Glavie and Balde information to STR
only Spear and Sword information to INT
so Bow ?????

now pls u go to Jangan and go to blacksmith(sry im forget name NPC b'cause im long time in hotan >.<)
pls look blade , sword and bow weapon lvl 1
and pls look all phy and mag atc pwr
blade high in PHY
sword high in MAG
and look whats low from blade and sword

lower damage from balde and sword ==> BOW
look magical atack power in blade
look physical attac power in sword
and pls look mag and phy attack power from bow

BOW build NOT for PURE
b'cause NOT high in PHY and MAG ATACK POWER
so why not high in PHY and MAG
b'cause BOW NOT MELEE "BOW IS LONG COMBAT"

on PvP
Nukers vs Nukers ==> Lucky PvP(possible 1 hit)
Pure str vs Pure str => (i think its same possible 1 hit or 2 hit)
Hybrid vs All =====> Funtastic PvP b'cause u use ur brain to win from enemy

if u say pls look all pure its great pls look too he/she equipment
whats alchemy on equipment
whats +(PLUS) on equipment

but if all is netral(like u buy from NPC wihtout alchemy)) u can say whats build and SKILL player great

sorry if u all not understand my wrote
its only game and i say pls HAVE FUN
"ENJOY YOUR LIFE BEFORE GOD CALL YOU"

I hope that wasn't a typo because it made me smile.

You have the right idea, Mr.Unknown. Kudos to you.

To Eukanuba




so i take it u understand wut im trying to say.
so why argue?

You dont have to say anything wen im correct.

Yes i answered the question, so why r u commenting?

That's what i sed, yes. Thanks for repeating tho. =)

yes, i no, im correct. and ur post doesnt make sense...
u sed it urself that int doesnt need crits, and u r saying int chars r bad cuz they have bad crits... :S wut r u trying to prove?

umm.. no shit?

ok. the whole game is about alchemy. nuff sed.

@umerasmez hmm im to lazy to answer that lol
but you have right full str bow will have a phy balance of 100%+ so they will have a lot of hp but the fact is the do a less average damage so they cant kill full str chars in pvp glavier has a high py attack power but bow definitive not but ppl cant get that in their brain that bow isnt a pure weapon but nvm i hope they will see that later if some1 in their server make the 80:80 build
but i dont want to discuss about that here again ppl here have a brain of stone they wont accept the fact...
i can say only that some lvl 70 bow full str pmed me and said that i have right and thier full str char sux in 1vs1 in pvp so they try this build out and they doing it fine...
so what can i say ? nothing.. ! you can try the build or let it be but dont wonder if u waste ur time on a pure char

@Mr.Unknown hmm i understand you but 1 point i dont understand !
do you agree with me and like the build or are you saying that it sux ? xD nvm anyway thx

I had really hoped it wouldn't come down to this, but you've forced the issue. I would tell you to re-read my post, but it is seems that you are illiterate in the English language.

Hybrid is doing great! On my level 31 pure str bower it took about 2 imbue's to kill earth taoist. On my hybrid-Level 28 it takes the time of 1. The attack power is really starting to show.

to Eukanuba

errr ... can u not see my quotes?!

Yea I am positive, the bows had the same damage too. Maybe you just got a higher damage bow at that level

Whew.... Finally finished reading all 9 pages...
took 2 hours... but def worth it

b4 anything i just wanted to say "Thank You" for:

Jadekiss (for sharing his guide)

and:

Zing
longlost
NuclearSilo
taintofsleep
Dempster
Da_Realest
IguanaRampage
FK47
(for the argument)
Because of them it was made possible for
me to look at both sides of this guide.

In conclusion:
I want to try this but may have some variations due to personal preferences
since Pwng char is not the intention of me playing this game...
It is how I enjoy it




Once again Thank You for Jadekiss and the above users


Newbie at Olympus server

T3A

pwned
Got a lv 68 glavie now,, which need reach lv 80 first, then ill make a shield/sword nuker then I make a bow build ill try a full str one, and this one. Need... more free time^^ or more bots lol!!!!!

Jadekiss i'm not arguing this build, i think it has great potential.
I'm a 57 full str ice bow, i cannot try this build with this char and surely i'm not going to begin a new one because it just takes too damn long.
You are right, i cannot win against a full str glavie(if the player is "stupe" only pressing 1-2--3-4-5 like he does on mobs or i'm eqiped with a sosun i will win), but i said that if the full str archer crits this 80:80 build it will take him down in 2 shots.The full str wearing garm it has good defence from the phys attack and magical.
U said you tried this build because u don't want to relay on crits to kill. When u did your calculations of the dmg of a full str vs 80:80 build (7000crit-str and 11000 -80:80) - you calculated the damage of the 80:80 build with de phys crit, so what you are telling us is that to kill a full str you still need to crit with the phys dmg. In conclusion the need for the crit still exists.
You will say that 80:80 build without phys crit will still do a lot more dmg:7000-8000 vs str that crits the same. Ok right again but you will loose 5000hp wich i think will make the diffrence if u stay on your feet in the end or not. So, repeating what others said before i guess, to loose 5000hp over 2.5-3000 extra damage... hmm... it's not my style.
Str glavies still need to crit full str archers to kill them... so in a battle between full str's the one that crits a lot wins thoreticaly.

If you pull this off and make the 90:90 char.. Congrats and respect!
With the right bow you can win against all other chars with 90:90.
In the end: Thankyou for sharring this ideea, i hope i will see great archers from now on .