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maybe you don't have ice imunity yet but I do Oo, very first thing on my list of priorities :p, also 20 stacks of fog tablets help XD

I want to ask a list of skills that suggests Jadekiss for this build, because i just don't get it .Everyone is posting about the"balance" and other stuff EXCEPT SKILLS. Should i get fire nukes and etc.??????????

Still 6 Hits (main attack, 4 relay and secondary attack) with ice imbue will slow down most players since Immunity isnt the TOP priority for most players at the moment, and its quite handy when ur health is low, even if you dont freeze him, just slow him down a little, long enought to switch to glavie/fire and finish it off. Well it works for now, But i have a feeling at 80, once everybody is mostly immune I will need a new tactic, Maybe s/s~glavie. s/s for kd's and shield for when im down..... Yup, i can see all the silk I have to buy....just to dlvl....Argh darn immunity We need stone of unimmunity for wepons to reduce immunity on players..*dreams

Its still nice to get Flamed when I PvP, "U idiot ur 77+, not fair...."

Ohh well,

Dont go with 70:70 Build, You wont have enough HP to stay alive long enough to deal any considerable damage even to INT players. And dont get nukes if you are going bow. Go pure str all the way
level bow to 69, and then level your glavie as you go along( for the exta HP or attack w/e you want) And at lower levels,level ice to about 30, it will save HP pots for grinding
after 30 go with fire, and at 40, start to level Light for phantom and passives.


Or farm at lower levels to make sure you are set on higer levels

XD I've had ppl claiming the very same thing, other day it was an old union's guildmate, So I partied him and he logged out

I just ASKED A LIST OF SKILLS , not for ur build and if i go that u said i will die while SP farming

Your name Discribes you well, I didnt give you my "exact" build you asked for skills, for gods sakes you wanted to have a bow nuker? I just described what skills and masteries will be usefull, No need to be a total "n00b" about it.

Use the typical archer skills:

Anti-devil series
Combo Arrow series
White and Blue hawks
Break Heaven Arrow series
Explosion Arrow series
Passive

If you want Autumn wind and Strong Bow, that's up to you

The principle idea behind the build proposed by JadeKiss is to give up HP and phy power in exchange for magic-based damage. I think most everyone agrees that this build is superior to the str archer in terms of PvE, but there are vastly conflicting stories of PvP results.

Trying out the build right now.... A balance Build.... something different.. so far LvL32 it is ok... its all about the long run... So we will see what happens!

I hope the 70:70 build goes well for you, I dont like to see people wasting time building something that was recomended by a noob who never made a decent account.

well there are ppl that likes to play with shitty characters....almost the same thing when u play singleplayer games on difficulty:hard..

they like challenges.

Well im sure you enjoy getting killed in one hit by people lower level than you. If you do enjoy this, then by almeans feel free to make a nub account and waste your days making/grinding it.

Dear Fury,

You should lay off the haterade.

Since you put so much emphasis on performance compared to other people, you should try going outside and doing something competitive in the real world.

I know it will be difficult without the anonymity your computer provides, and I realize that the thought of people actually being able to see your face can be scary to you, but you should give it your best shot anyway.

Regards,
Eukanuba

Dear Eukanuba

Im not hating at anybody. I just dislike Cove because he israther annoying, and plays on my server so there is a past. Second, you seem to judge me over a computer? I could perhaps agree with you if you had said something about my attitude or respect, but I find it odd that you make comments about looks and soforth, things that you have no way of knowing. Stop insulting people based on looks or their attributes, and discuss character builds and so forth, after all, this forum is about SRO not about what you are atracted too.

Perhaps this is an outlet for you, to escape the real world where people constantly judge you.. Pehaps...

Good bye

flame on

whatever floats your boat.

Since I got so freaking tired of the botter noobs out in takla I decided to give this build a try. Pure str, well i've done that allready. Not with bow though, but I don't need one more on my account. So, hybrid it had to be.

My experince so far with it (I'm lvl 32 atm, balances about 75% and 4 gapping with a +3 bow) is that is a great build to lvl with and with protectors you take about the same damage from both mag and phys mobs. No need to worry about dying while grinding.

Pvp then. Well, its always hard to judge at lower lvls. Today I fought a lvl 35 pure int s/s in armor and a 34 glaiver in garments (never asked about his balance since he was a pain to deal with). Could kill the nuker in 2 hits, but if he got close he was able to 1 shoot me if lucky. The glaiver was down in a few hits and I could tank him long enough to get that killing shot. But who knows what gear and how skilled they were. Atleast that glaiver who insisted to have me standing still tanking him. Didn't help him much though. And yes, I did more then 1 fight with both of them.

I have nothing to loose while trying out this build, since I just want something fun to lvl with. And so far I really enjoy it. Who knows, maybe I will get owned big time at the 80 cap, maybe I wont. Have plans to add heuksal later on, but that is when I can afford the sp. The hp passive and magical defense buff will be great to have, together with some close combat skills.

The crits do little less then 50% more damage. Don't have any exact numbers in my head atm. Haven't checked my damage versus a pure str bow neither.

Everything deserves to be tryed out before you can start judging it. And so far I don't have much bad things to say.

this guide is a piece of shit

After reading Alfreds Comments, I scroll down only to see my true opinions of the guide still rofl....

To: Fury

You have been derogatory the whole time you have been on this thread, which is symptomatic of the condition known as "hating."

Furthermore, I am saddened to see you misinterpreted and were insulted by my heartfelt words of encouragement to you. However, the fact that you immediately interpreted "face" to mean "physical appearance" speaks volumes about your own personal insecurities.

Perhaps I will make a donation to a children's charity in your name to show I have no ill feelings about this. I will keep you in my prayers in hopes that you can have a brighter tomorrow.

Sincerely,
Eukanuba

At this point i have to say, you are starting to sound like a priest, Im sorry to insult you, But lay off the comments> You feel I have hatered towards certain people? Even If I do, what exactly is your point? That I should be calm, collected? Well I am, im not flaming them nor insulting them directly, I maybe insulting them inidrectly, but then again, they will never comprehed a word of our well spoken english and grammar Secondly, do feel free to donate money o charities as they always welcome support, althought do not do it for me, do it for yourself. Im not a kind person because of my life experience, Frankly what my life is about does not concern you nor should it interest you unless you dont have one yourself. Inconclusion-thank you for your comments and not using vulgarity to try to solve the matter>Feel free not to reply as it is not necesary and you wont be replied to.

Once again Thanks

Dear Fury,

In this response I am forced to adopt a more casual format as I wish to address you point by point. Please pardon the informality, as no disrespect is intended.



The point I was making is that you were "hating", even though said you were not. I refer you to your statement in your reply to our first correspondence: "Im not hating at anybody."



Those words, indeed, are truly profound.



Good show! You are correct in your assumption that I do not care about the particulars of your life. However, I would like to remind you that others have suffered greater than you, yet they manage to smile and enjoy life, just as this unforunate gentleman has done:




You are most welcome, and I am pleased that you have elected allow me to have the last word.

Humbly,
Eukanuba

LOL this is funny to see how people dont get that this is just a game. First of all you have to decide in the begining what do you want to do.
To me it seems like jadekiss ..... up its char and now making lot of work and BS to make its build "the best".
The thing is i have a bow hybrid and my goal is 80:80 or something but not for PVP cause it sucks. That char is only for killing mobs and having fun (i kill mobs faster than any full str char) and second just to be a suport for my full str tankers in guild while doing jobs.
And i have another full str blader char and will use it for PVP's.
But like I said i dont do PVP's (for now) cause for me it is just a waste of time and i dont have to prove to anybody how "strong" I am. Plenty of time for that later. And guild war option is still not working so no need for that either.

Look it is wrong for jadekiss to make faulse "guide" just to feel better cause didnt ask in the begining and ..... a char. But it is wrong for the rest of you to try to explain what is evident to anyone who has IQ higher than his shoe number.

So the bottom line is you can make whatever char build you want, you can experiment, you can use different weapons and skill (cursed heart) but you have to know for what do you plan to use your char..

It is just a game, it is for fun so knock yourselves out)

And for FuryAngle man you are anoying. Just apeared out of the blue and flaming, insulting people, braging about your chars and money and CC's. Man you have issues, go sort them out you seem like a monkey beating his chest and yeling "This is my Jungle".. So stop it. And please go to your jungle where you crawled out of (yeah i mean Bosnia)

+1
i aggree

Sorry to see this thread degenerate.
Well, all I can say pure str archer sucks. I have one at lvl 71 (was at the lvl cap a while before it raised and just have not been able to get in game much the last 2 months). The pure str archer will own a spear nuker hard, but will lose to a int s/s half the time, and to a pure str blader all the time. Might get lucky against a glaiver. Will be converting to glaive, re-rolling with bow....

jadekiss, I know both Wind and Samara, have seen them in action first hand, and you are right, their 80:80 builds are solid, and without much help from alchemy too. They have the most Yarkon kills on Aege, and though they crit less often than I do, they make up for it in normal damage. Wind is probably more widely known, but according to him, it was Samara's meticulous calculations from observations that they came up with this build.

The 'not enough hp' argument against this build was the most humorous. I mean come on! 18k is not enough hp, because a double-crit will kill you! Do you hear anyone argue that the spear hybrid is a weak build because you do not have enough hp? Wind/Samara's bow build will not have the hp of a tanker, granted, but that is the sacrifice you make for greater over-all damage. The difference being that you will have more hp than an hybrib spear, and more overall damage than a pure str archer, and being able to hold your own in PvP better than a pure str archer. What more could an archer want?

Jadekiss had tried numorous other bow builds, had made a pure str archer, and had the same sense for the build that countless others have. I have known a lot of pure str archers and almost every single one of them have switched to either glaive or blade.

You guys remember Fly, don't you? Almost a year ago after writing his pure build guide, he had pm'ed me telling me after I hit lvl 60, to switch to glaive becasue I will not be able to do much damage after lvl 60 with the bow. He was right.

My glory days for my archer were in the 6th degree and 7th degree gear. I could kill someone 2-3 levels higher than me in 1 or 2 hits. The pure str archer seemed to be a very strong build against other builds (pure and hybrid). That ended for me after getting to the 8th degree. But not just me, but countless others at my level, migrated to other str weapons.

For those asking about skills for this build, it is pretty much the same for a pure str. You want the ant-devil series, the multi-arrow combos, demon arrow, and the soul arrow series. Fire is your main force, using the imbue (fire river force), flame-body series, fire protection series, fire shield series (in combination with alchemy if you want status immunity) . You don't want or need the nukes, your mag balance still will not be high enough for those to make a difference, besides, nuke defeats the purpose of the bow. Get lightning for grass/phantom walk, and also for concentration (increase your parry), and must pierce series (increasing your mag damage), and the passive.

You can get some ice for some phys protection, but Wind has stated to me, that he felt he had enough phys protection without it.

All in all, yes this is just a game. Does seem to be lost on many of you. Treat people with some decency without trying to look for it for yourself so hard. It will go a long way.

Finally some posts that have something to contribute to this topic.

Why even bother posting, when the only thing you have to say is this sux and that sux and everything sux. And just basing an opinion on a theoretical basis is never enough for me. I want solid proof, one of the reasons I decided to go with this build. So far I'm more then pleased with what I've experienced.

I just want to add one thing - Bow is range weapon so it is not ment to be chest to chest typo weapon so hybrid may be the best thing.
You need only phantom walk + dragon soul arow (+all mentioned above) and you can hit and run from great distances (for other types of weapons)
So you hit and run, turn around hit and run again.. You add here good items and a good bow +4 or +5 or better with crit over 9 and you will own.
It seams like pus.sy fighting so what i dont care.. Bow is ment to be like that.


And just to add that i was little harsh with jadekiss but we have to understand that there is no best build because noone knows for sure, so we give only our opinions from our expirience and maybe we help someone. but dont ever say that you know and hold the truth and that it is final..
Say your opinion and thats it.. And no need for flaming and insulting everyone who has an idea.. Most of people here just insult and dont give any counter proporsal or solution..

Finally someone here post the thruth about full str bow chars



Oh i didnt know that because i know only Wind he is the unqiue hunter nr1 but samara... dont know her but well they hit the 80:80 balance bow build and do a great job !?



Thats true a lot of high lvl str archer warned me to make a full str because they are going to switch to glavie...what was the reason ? they sux in pvp (1on1 we dont talk about multi-massive pvp)



i dont know him... but aslong as he see that full str archer arent fit in pvp on 1on1 .
i not trying to make you feel bad here (to the full str archers)
but that is the fact... str archer arent made for pvp... (we are talking against the full str chars not int) the most aim of someone is to have a good pvp char also which can stand against a full str glavie



alright i was thinking about it to leave ice and go only with pacheon, fire and light...

well why didnt you answer/post here earlier theCoder ?

@judaiskariot ..hmm im sry if you missunderstand this thread !
but i said this is right now for me the best BOW build... not the best build but for bow the best one...(on my opinion)

Glaives suck in pvp now?, so arrogant.

Being very new to SRO, when I hear all the talk of PVP is it mainly referring to the group that stands outside the gates of town smacking each other OR does it mean taking on the thief (not NPC) that tries to jack your cargo or the combat guildie you run across out on the road or facing your opponent in guild wars?

Standing around in a big circle watching PVP hasn't really interested me at all and maybe that will change when I get to a level where PVE is no longer a challenge but that will be quite some time but imo the meat of the game is fighting mobs, getting cool drops, alching equipment, stalling, fighting uniques, running cargo, battling thieves, and doing a giant guild war. Just ramblings from a noob. Carry on the discussion as I find it extremely entertaining and somewhat informative.

maybe you should read it through more carefully before posting