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 Post subject: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:12 pm 
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So your only nuke is in the Thunderbolt Force Series?! :banghead:


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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Pretty decent guide & well organized
well done :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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So your only nuke is in the Thunderbolt Force Series?! :banghead:


think of it as a glaiver that hits higher and has nukes ;)

its a rlly good guide, but maybe u could specifics PvP wise.


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:25 am 
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Suuuure everyone shakes a +5 set with 61%+ whites out of his sleeve xD

I personally think this build is too weak for pvp because of the low def. No fire and prot? You'll be raped by other ints.

But overall a nice guide hehe.

Also, the ice imbue is not a waste of sp. Especially at 100 cap now when alot of nukers have no fire, which means no immunity ;) It can save your life alot better than a light imbue would against those chars.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:38 pm 
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Pure Int Spear is the strongest Chinese build


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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XMoshe wrote:
I personally think this build is too weak for pvp because of the low def. No fire and prot? You'll be raped by other ints.

Fanning Spear, yo.

Pure Int Spear is not nearly as bad as others think. The high damage is a fair trade-off for the lack of defense. Also, survivability is easier to compensate for than damage in group PvP. Screens, Bless, Fences, Cleric Buff things, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:09 pm 
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Thank you for the guide, I was looking for something like this.
I shall try it out on my new character :)


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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XMoshe wrote:
I personally think this build is too weak for pvp because of the low def. No fire and prot? You'll be raped by other ints.

Fanning Spear, yo.

Pure Int Spear is not nearly as bad as others think. The high damage is a fair trade-off for the lack of defense. Also, survivability is easier to compensate for than damage in group PvP. Screens, Bless, Fences, Cleric Buff things, etc.


So you can survive for 15 secs longer >.>

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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So you can survive for 15 secs longer >.>

Yeah, which is more than enough if you actually plan to do more than just survive. It's not like you're just gonna stand there while other Int-based builds try to rape you. I really don't see how a Pure Int Spear will fare worse than the common Bich/Cold/Light nuker against other Int builds.


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=\ Why do people always say that int spear will lose against s/s in pvp? S/s has shield, sure, but we have extra hp...

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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Wow Awsome guide , good job =]

I always wanted to have a Spear, and i'm going to follow this guide =]

Between why shouldn't use "Garmet" Some body told me to use it :$

Between, why this build isn't in your other guide ?
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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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=\ Why do people always say that int spear will lose against s/s in pvp? S/s has shield, sure, but we have extra hp...


Block/kd > extra hp and kb/stun

And ofcourse you won't stand still..But a decent geared opponent can tank those 15 secs and then put you down.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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Well currently i'm using this build ( Lv 61 ) with masterys all on 55 , but i can't kill lvl 60 mobs , what should i do ( i mean Edinmus )

I die too easy, i'm still training on penons / sonars so i don't die

I'm using a lvl 56 Spear +5
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maxibaby wrote:
Well currently i'm using this build ( Lv 61 ) with masterys all on 55 , but i can't kill lvl 60 mobs , what should i do ( i mean Edinmus )

I die too easy, i'm still training on penons / sonars so i don't die

I'm using a lvl 56 Spear +5
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Using a lvl60 Spear would be a good start.
Is your set any good? Weird, when I was playing this build I did just fine even at mobs slightly higher than me.

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And ofcourse you won't stand still..But a decent geared opponent can tank those 15 secs and then put you down.

As per experience, a decent geared me can tank other pure ints just the same. PvP against a S/S nuker is a pot fight, hardly counts as "rape". As for Int Euros, Warlocks will always be hard but against Wiz/Clerics, I believe that this build will do better than S/S.


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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Is your set any good? Weird, when I was playing this build I did just fine even at mobs slightly higher than me.


Npc set, and no one selling 60 spear , :/ have searched for it a lot.

Between witch skills do you used to PvE ?

Do you had GAP ?

Were you FF?


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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:22 am 
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maxibaby wrote:
Well currently i'm using this build ( Lv 61 ) with masterys all on 55 , but i can't kill lvl 60 mobs , what should i do ( i mean Edinmus )

I die too easy, i'm still training on penons / sonars so i don't die

I'm using a lvl 56 Spear +5
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Slap on some armor and go nuke yetis.

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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XMoshe wrote:
And ofcourse you won't stand still..But a decent geared opponent can tank those 15 secs and then put you down.

As per experience, a decent geared me can tank other pure ints just the same. PvP against a S/S nuker is a pot fight, hardly counts as "rape". As for Int Euros, Warlocks will always be hard but against Wiz/Clerics, I believe that this build will do better than S/S.[/quote]

Warlocks can be very difficult, wizzards go invis ur 15 sec of heuksay spin spear skill, Clerics flash you and do absolute dmg to own u super fast, and they have a shield too xD and bless and imba heals xD

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PvP - You definitely need your snow shield in PvP. No matter who you're up against, you'll need it. In PvP try to refrain from using Nukes. Prioritize the Soul Spear series as it can stun, and also the Heuksal Spear Series for Dull. Throw in a Ghost Spear every now and then for KB and maybe if you've got your opponent stunned use a nuke to finish him.


In this case it would be fight using heuksay skills till u get dull or stun THEN nuke, soul spear and lion shout for a 3 quick combo then if he didnt die, run away! :D

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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I am farming for this right now 200k sp so far......Ill make sure to post when I hit 1.8 and start to lvl.


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I am farming for this right now 200k sp so far......Ill make sure to post when I hit 1.8 and start to lvl.


Good luck with farming, it's a horrid process

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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You definitely need your snow shield in PvP. No matter who you're up against, you'll need it. In PvP try to refrain from using Nukes. Prioritize the Soul Spear series as it can stun, and also the Heuksal Spear Series for Dull. Throw in a Ghost Spear every now and then for KB and maybe if you've got your opponent stunned use a nuke to finish him.


Pretty good guild except I don't agree with this last part..
You should use SSE, and if you stun your opponent you should use a nuke followed immediately by ghost spear.. the DPS is devastating. The windless series that inflicts dull is.. mediocre at best imo. It's the only status you can inflict (besides stun ofc) and 95% of people will just pill it off. Better to use higher damage skills instead because as an INT after your snow is gone you're probably going to lose. So what to use instead of windless? Your most powerful heuksal skill ofcourse (One which you highlighted as optional for some reason) Flying Dragon Flash, the new 2x throw. Especially useful against bowers because it brings you closer and chains great with SSE.

anyway.. that's my input on this build, hope you take it into consideration :)

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 Post subject: Re: [GUIDE] Pure Int Spear [100 CAP]
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You definitely need your snow shield in PvP. No matter who you're up against, you'll need it. In PvP try to refrain from using Nukes. Prioritize the Soul Spear series as it can stun, and also the Heuksal Spear Series for Dull. Throw in a Ghost Spear every now and then for KB and maybe if you've got your opponent stunned use a nuke to finish him.


Pretty good guild except I don't agree with this last part..
You should use SSE, and if you stun your opponent you should use a nuke followed immediately by ghost spear.. the DPS is devastating. The windless series that inflicts dull is.. mediocre at best imo. It's the only status you can inflict (besides stun ofc) and 95% of people will just pill it off. Better to use higher damage skills instead because as an INT after your snow is gone you're probably going to lose. So what to use instead of windless? Your most powerful heuksal skill ofcourse (One which you highlighted as optional for some reason) Flying Dragon Flash, the new 2x throw. Especially useful against bowers because it brings you closer and chains great with SSE.

anyway.. that's my input on this build, hope you take it into consideration :)


Thanks a lot. I'll definitely edit it in the near future

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A good combination of moves is SSE -> windless -> FD-Flash and -> GS. It's a deadly set of moves with high dps. I have seen a few glaivers use it for a devastating effect. Since int spear hits higher I would say this is also an effective combo. I would maybe substitute windless for a light nuke but that's just me.

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Pure Int Spear is the strongest Chinese build and is my all-time favorite build. Great HP, great defense, great speed and great damage comes with this build whether you like it or not...


It's the strongest build according to YOU... And how does a pure int (heuks passive or not) have great HP?? :? Otherwise pretty good guide, maybe some more pics to make it interesting.

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Pure Int Spear is the strongest Chinese build and is my all-time favorite build. Great HP, great defense, great speed and great damage comes with this build whether you like it or not...


It's the strongest build according to YOU... And how does a pure int (heuks passive or not) have great HP?? :? Otherwise pretty good guide, maybe some more pics to make it interesting.


My bad, put it this way, the biggest damage dealer.

Pure Int Spear with FB items and Heuksal passive will have great HP, compared to s/s I guess.

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Tsume wrote:
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Pure Int Spear is the strongest Chinese build and is my all-time favorite build. Great HP, great defense, great speed and great damage comes with this build whether you like it or not...


It's the strongest build according to YOU... And how does a pure int (heuks passive or not) have great HP?? :? Otherwise pretty good guide, maybe some more pics to make it interesting.


My bad, put it this way, the biggest damage dealer.

Pure Int Spear with FB items and Heuksal passive will have great HP, compared to s/s I guess.


Yeah but not compared to any pure str build, i think it's kind of deceiving for someone that doesn't know the game well. Maybe change it to something like "The most hp out of all pure Int classes" or smthing like that :wink:

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omg... spear <3
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I'm pretty much the same build except that i took Fire over lightning, simply bcuz I wanna wear protector so I have a good phy def with cold and fire gives me that extra mag. def from garment;) + it just seems alot stronger than light, when im in my full 10d gear i'll make a vid;P or try to :x


edit: this is how my build will look like :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9QHvnobEho maybe old vid for some, but its awesomee:D

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Honestly at 100 cap there is no need to take Ice to 100, the 50% snow shield at Lv 90 Ice is more than enough. Use those extra 10 masteries for Fire 10, that way you still keep some immunity to bad statuses.

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