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 Post subject: 1 Star Trading with a camel and a horse!!!
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:16 pm 
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I done an experiment with using a horse and a camel to trade..

well , i found that the same journey but different transport..

A horse load about 16k max for 1*:
journey time= 15~20 min (from DW to Jangan and vice versa)
Profit (after minus the cost of load)= 45k

A camel load abt 21k max for 1*:
Journey time=45min ~1 hour ( from DW to Jangan and vice versa)
Profit (after minus the cost of load)= 60k

So, i found that the ratio of trade wit horse n camel is 3:1..means that i can trade 3 times for horse but jus once for camel.and the profit of horse is 45k times 3= 135k!! but for the camel jus 60k :(

and the camel took longer time bc of its speed, n that will lead to summon more npc thief to distrub u "the cold thief" wil slow ur journey time...

moreover, the camel wil be a nice mark for those pc thiefs bc they usually use horse to keep in front of ur camel since they cant atk 1* traders..cz thiers speed is much more faster then ur camel.

So, i feel that horse is better then a camel when doing 1* trading.. XD


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Lol thanks.

But i always trade with a horse anyways.
And thats IF i trade...

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I'm scared to trade now after I got popped.


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i'm gonna start my 1st trade run...yea gonna use horse... i'm so so poooor :banghead:


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i always use a horse... used a camel once i ran so far infront of it, so i sat down, gained full hp and the camel still didnt arrive lol stood back up to see where it was, and it was just coming into my view lol

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ponder wrote:
i always use a horse... used a camel once i ran so far infront of it, so i sat down, gained full hp and the camel still didnt arrive lol stood back up to see where it was, and it was just coming into my view lol


There is somehow a bug. I notice that if you reach the 100m mark, it seems that your transport "lose" you and stop completely. You got to go back a little so that your transport can detect you and move forward. This is because i tested it and move to 100m mark. I stop waiting for my horse. 30 seconds later, i didn't see my horse at all...i was like WTF i came back to see my horse still strolling slowly...

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vulperin wrote:
ponder wrote:
i always use a horse... used a camel once i ran so far infront of it, so i sat down, gained full hp and the camel still didnt arrive lol stood back up to see where it was, and it was just coming into my view lol


There is somehow a bug. I notice that if you reach the 100m mark, it seems that your transport "lose" you and stop completely. You got to go back a little so that your transport can detect you and move forward. This is because i tested it and move to 100m mark. I stop waiting for my horse. 30 seconds later, i didn't see my horse at all...i was like WTF i came back to see my horse still strolling slowly...

Its not a bug, its a feature.


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if your on babel us bakemasters are always itching to hunt so we could protect u on your horses even if they only have 5k hp


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 Post subject: Re: 1 Star Trading with a camel and a horse!!!
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:42 am 
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winterkiddi wrote:
moreover, the camel wil be a nice mark for those pc thiefs bc they usually use horse to keep in front of ur camel since they cant atk 1* traders..cz thiers speed is much more faster then ur camel.


Valid point but consider the alternative - a theif with a horse can still pop you. Heck, I could usually pop horses with my camel on Alps (takes good skills though ^_>)

Point being, less HP and faster is not better. If you are going to get popped, you are going to get popped, nothing you can do about that. Camels are better than horses for trades though. I've seen camels tank higher level npcs (and survive to town) because the owner had lots of pots. That is not possible on a horse because the damage stacks up faster due to less HP. I usually hope the trader I'm popping has a horse.

Of course, this is what I think and what I have personally seen :)

PS, your times are a bit off, horses move at 4m and camels at 3m. That would mean that a camel trip should take 1.3 times longer than a horse.
(If you want to see the math:
* If the trip is 400M, that means it takes 100 units of time for a horse
* After 100 units of time, the camel is only at 300M. The camel must go 100 more M, so that's 100 units of time / 3 ~ 33 units of time = 133 units of time.

133 units of time / 100 units of time = ~1.3
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Even at a worse case of you trave 2x slower than a horse, that means you profit will be 120K (60k per trip camel) as opposed to 135k per horse trip - meaning you can take 3 1way trips on a horse in the same time it takes a came to do 2 1 way trips (~rounding since itd really be like 3.5 horse 1 way trips but that doesnt count 1/2 way there)

So, what's that 15k in the grand scheme of things? Nothing really when you look at the HP differences and the ability to withstand attacks on the way to/from town.


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um.... yes. how do you post, then quadruple post a DIFFERENT post?. delete all the smilies and put it in the first post plz. spam=bad

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what are you thinking when you said you can make 3 horse trips to 1 camel trip? you must be uber noob and take some bad routes. i can make a horse run from dw to jangan in 12-15 minutes, on a camel it takes 17-20.

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