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Snoopy
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Post subject: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:17 pm |
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:49 pm |
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:17 pm |
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I believe this build needs higher snow than just lv 30. IMO, it would have a hard time against bladers. Imagine: debuffs are successfull, but the blader blocks a strong bow / devil arrow. The blader procedes to knocking down, and quad stabbing the bower, dealing some consistent criticals. With lv 30 snow, you're guaranteed to go down pretty fast. At 80 cap, the 70:70 could have functioned just fine, with 80 fire / 80 pacheon / 70 light / 70 cold, but now, at 90 cap, it's becoming ever more obvious, that the build is VERY tree-dependent. 90 fire / 90 pacheon / 60 light / 60 cold would be the way to go, but then again, the light is relatively low, giving moderate mobility, and cold makes a huge jump in defense from 60 to 90. Full STR bow can take pacheon/fire/force, because light or cold aren't that important for full STR. However, a hybrid needs both magical attack and the cold tree. That's the difference, and that's the reason why I think that full STR can take force, but 70:70 can NOT. IMO, there's two valid options: 90 pacheon 90 light 90 cold 30 fire (in garments) and 90 fire 90 pacheon 60 light 60 cold. Here's a video of BossMan's 90/90/60/60 build failing against a blader: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zqusf8d9QyMNotice he gets nowhere near killing the blader. However, when snow goes down, the blader activates Bicheon force and rapes the bower. In the video, he doesn't even have quad stab! If the 60 cold build failed against the blader, and the bower came nowhere near killing him because of the constant KD's, then how will the 30 cold build do? Do you get my point?
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:25 pm |
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I've a hybrid int S/S and Hybrid bow, both only using 30% snowshield, both live.
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:38 pm |
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Great guide 
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:51 am |
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lol never considered a hybrid force archer. i've seen a hybrid force glavier. well if you've got this build to a high lvl on pacific i'll pvp you some time with my pure str bow and see if the builds worth having a shot at. EDIT: stress your second build idea is the one i used for my bowman ^^
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:09 am |
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Res is a must.Also the therapy helps a lot more than most people think
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:09 am |
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Nice guide ^^
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:48 pm |
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Why would you take force? a 70:70 bow build is already based on dealing high fps. this way it would have VERY high dps, tho you didn't thought of any defence?
offence=best defence in some situations, not this one.
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:56 pm |
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If you look ahead for force at the 100 cap, there will be the 80% stun vital spot. Although it is a very tough decision, unless you decide not to have snow shield. Force is basically a warlock sub for euros with all the defuffs.
nice guide.
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:56 pm |
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Quote: Here's a video of BossMan's 90/90/60/60 build failing against a blader: If u looked good at the end before he died, he got hitted bij a wizard earth quake that hitted him for 6-7k, thats the reason he died.
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:53 pm |
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hey :]
do you recommend starting with INT or STR for the first few lvls? =O
thanks x]
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:16 am |
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Go pure INT until level 16, IMO. Then, full STR until 24, and you should be somewhere around the 70:70 balance.
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:23 pm |
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thanks ;] lvl 25 now, nice damage and kinda good survivability. looking forward to get highlvl with it ;D
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:16 pm |
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Hey, I like the guide and I'm going to give a go. One thing, what's the song in the first vid of the 80:80 hybrid? 
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:17 pm |
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Stress wrote: Here's a video of BossMan's 90/90/60/60 build failing against a blader: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zqusf8d9QyMlast comment : LoL another wizard in the backwards has just attacked someone there and bow char got hit like 5k from that blader couldnt kill her otherwise .. watch it again and try to see that earth magic skill of wizards../ ontopic / what about the bossman build modified to cold 60 > cold 90 (+180 phy def difference) light 60 > light 30 fire 90 bow 90 even a glavier would have very little chance taking him down tho he would have slightly less dmg and would need runing pots when not grindin with all the warriors and damn rouges around , i say it might be worth it ... and despite the less dmg its a matter of max +1 shot taking a euro down(w/o bless/ screens)
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:37 am |
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Stress wrote: I believe this build needs higher snow than just lv 30. IMO, it would have a hard time against bladers. Imagine: debuffs are successfull, but the blader blocks a strong bow / devil arrow. The blader procedes to knocking down, and quad stabbing the bower, dealing some consistent criticals. With lv 30 snow, you're guaranteed to go down pretty fast. At 80 cap, the 70:70 could have functioned just fine, with 80 fire / 80 pacheon / 70 light / 70 cold, but now, at 90 cap, it's becoming ever more obvious, that the build is VERY tree-dependent. 90 fire / 90 pacheon / 60 light / 60 cold would be the way to go, but then again, the light is relatively low, giving moderate mobility, and cold makes a huge jump in defense from 60 to 90. Full STR bow can take pacheon/fire/force, because light or cold aren't that important for full STR. However, a hybrid needs both magical attack and the cold tree. That's the difference, and that's the reason why I think that full STR can take force, but 70:70 can NOT. IMO, there's two valid options: 90 pacheon 90 light 90 cold 30 fire (in garments) and 90 fire 90 pacheon 60 light 60 cold. Here's a video of BossMan's 90/90/60/60 build failing against a blader: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zqusf8d9QyMNotice he gets nowhere near killing the blader. However, when snow goes down, the blader activates Bicheon force and rapes the bower. In the video, he doesn't even have quad stab! If the 60 cold build failed against the blader, and the bower came nowhere near killing him because of the constant KD's, then how will the 30 cold build do? Do you get my point? Force 80 = Impotent, that helps a lot too, and unless the blader is pilling the force debuffs there should be no problem for the archer to tank.
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:41 am |
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ok guide 
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:35 pm |
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70:70 sounds good. Im tryin to decide between 90wep/90fire/60cold/60light and 90wep/90light/60cold/60fire(both in prot). Im kinda thinking the second because this is an int hybrid and fire isnt as important. Tell me what you think guys. Also, has anyone seen a pvp between 70:70 and pure str? Pure str is the most common bow build, but i think this will be better. But ive never actually seen them pvp before...
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:28 pm |
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Can someone do guide about 70:70 without Force? forse is good from 70lvl ..
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:58 pm |
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Stress wrote: I believe this build needs higher snow than just lv 30. IMO, it would have a hard time against bladers. Imagine: debuffs are successfull, but the blader blocks a strong bow / devil arrow. The blader procedes to knocking down, and quad stabbing the bower, dealing some consistent criticals. With lv 30 snow, you're guaranteed to go down pretty fast. At 80 cap, the 70:70 could have functioned just fine, with 80 fire / 80 pacheon / 70 light / 70 cold, but now, at 90 cap, it's becoming ever more obvious, that the build is VERY tree-dependent. 90 fire / 90 pacheon / 60 light / 60 cold would be the way to go, but then again, the light is relatively low, giving moderate mobility, and cold makes a huge jump in defense from 60 to 90. Full STR bow can take pacheon/fire/force, because light or cold aren't that important for full STR. However, a hybrid needs both magical attack and the cold tree. That's the difference, and that's the reason why I think that full STR can take force, but 70:70 can NOT. IMO, there's two valid options: 90 pacheon 90 light 90 cold 30 fire (in garments) and 90 fire 90 pacheon 60 light 60 cold. Here's a video of BossMan's 90/90/60/60 build failing against a blader: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zqusf8d9QyMNotice he gets nowhere near killing the blader. However, when snow goes down, the blader activates Bicheon force and rapes the bower. In the video, he doesn't even have quad stab! If the 60 cold build failed against the blader, and the bower came nowhere near killing him because of the constant KD's, then how will the 30 cold build do? Do you get my point? but in that pvp the archer die coz of the wizz who make a Earth Quake 
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:12 am |
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just remember...other ppl & including myself will like to just play around w/ u and ice imbue for the heck of it, XD
so fun to freeze builds that dont have fire shield nowadays
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:33 pm |
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Kayson wrote: Xbow Rogue > 70:70 archer.  yeah right --> dream on -.-
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:36 pm |
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I started a new character with these skills. It's only lvl 3 now, and Im just curious how should i distribute my stat points? Up until now i only put them to STR. I see that, at lvl 90 how much you have, but how many should I put to each when I'm lower lvl?
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:54 pm |
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sleggen wrote: um, is there a way i can take skills away? i added some in the first row on ice :/ Go to the potion lady, after lvl 20, and accept the Cursed Heart quest. Collect cursed hearts by killing mobs, go back to the lady with 10 cursed hearts (increments of 10) and get a Resuscitation potion [example: 10 cursed hearts=1 Resuscitation potion. 30 cursed hearts=3 Resuscitation potions] . Then talk to her again and click the skill reallocation button (or whatever it says). Delvl 1 skill per 1 Resuscitation potion, +about 25k gold per skill. Scratch that!I found this guide, it explains the quest a lot better! http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=243
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Post subject: Re: 70:70 Archer [GUIDE] Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:31 am |
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Stress wrote: I believe this build needs higher snow than just lv 30. IMO, it would have a hard time against bladers. Imagine: debuffs are successfull, but the blader blocks a strong bow / devil arrow. The blader procedes to knocking down, and quad stabbing the bower, dealing some consistent criticals. With lv 30 snow, you're guaranteed to go down pretty fast. At 80 cap, the 70:70 could have functioned just fine, with 80 fire / 80 pacheon / 70 light / 70 cold, but now, at 90 cap, it's becoming ever more obvious, that the build is VERY tree-dependent. 90 fire / 90 pacheon / 60 light / 60 cold would be the way to go, but then again, the light is relatively low, giving moderate mobility, and cold makes a huge jump in defense from 60 to 90. Full STR bow can take pacheon/fire/force, because light or cold aren't that important for full STR. However, a hybrid needs both magical attack and the cold tree. That's the difference, and that's the reason why I think that full STR can take force, but 70:70 can NOT. IMO, there's two valid options: 90 pacheon 90 light 90 cold 30 fire (in garments) and 90 fire 90 pacheon 60 light 60 cold. Here's a video of BossMan's 90/90/60/60 build failing against a blader: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zqusf8d9QyMNotice he gets nowhere near killing the blader. However, when snow goes down, the blader activates Bicheon force and rapes the bower. In the video, he doesn't even have quad stab! If the 60 cold build failed against the blader, and the bower came nowhere near killing him because of the constant KD's, then how will the 30 cold build do? Do you get my point? +1
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