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 Post subject: [GUIDE] The Basic Guide To Building A Successful Blader
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:35 pm 
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The Basic Guide To Building A Successful Blader

This guide will hopefully answer the questions of anybody who is thinking about building a STR based Blader character but isn't sure where to start. This Guide was written for people who don't know much about silkroad builds, so anybody reading now that is familiar with a basic STR build then you probably wont learn anything new in this guide.

Personally I have enjoyed building my STR Blader. If you're new to an STR build and you've only played INT based characters before then it's a shock to be able to tank alot for a change, especially with a Blader, the ultimate Tank. Hopefully this guide will enable you to enjoy building your blader as much as I have.
Contents

1. Should I Be Full STR?
2. What should I wear?
3. What Skills should I get?
-a)Fire
-b)Bicheon
-c)Lightning
-d)Cold

4. Where should i fight?
5. Conclusion.




1.Should I Be Full STR?

Yes, if you want to be a blader I think the best idea is to go full STR. There has been speculation (even by me occassionally) about weather a Blader should go hyrbid but i disagree with this now and i think the best idea is Full STR.
My reasons for this are;
1. I think the main idea of a blader is to be a tank, and full STR allows you to do that.
2. There are new skills coming out after 90 cap for bicheon which increase the attack power. However these skills will also drop your defence levels. This itself is basically achieving the same thing as going hybrid, so going hybrid along with these skills would probably be a bad idea.
3. At the 90 cap, INT builds and glaiver will be hitting so much you'll need all the HP and defense you can get.

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2.What Should I Wear?

Most people say that Bladers should wear garment, and i agree with this. I believe that garment is very successful for a high level blader in PVP. But, if you're like me, you don't want to do much PVP or fight in many Job Wars until you're into 8th degree. For this reason alone i would wear protector whilst getting to 8th degree. This is only if you don't do much PVP before 8th deg!. By wearing protector and chosing your mobs carefully you can save loads of gold! For example; A full STR blader with a sheild already has very high physical defence, but if you wear protector that physical defense will rise substantially, the only downside being you lose 10percent of your speed bonus. However, if you choose mobs that are based on physical attack power, such as pennon fighters or yetis then you will save money by wearing protector as you wont need to buy as many HP pots. As long as you avoid fighting magical attack based mobs you will be fine.


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3.What Skills Should I Get?

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Nice guide, but the job of full str blader is to tank, so why go fire? Cold would be mutch better imbue than fire, yea fire do more dmg, but cold can freeze and frozen ur enemyes and make them slower. Thats really annoying in pvp, but its the idea of Full Str Blader.


I have chosen fire simply for two reasons. Fire is a much stronger imbue, and when the cap is raised to 90 the difference in the strength of the imbues will been show hugely. The other reason is due to the amount of players becoming immune to freeze and frostbite. I just don't believe losing the extra damage is worth it when the chances are ice wont make any difference and it's status effect wont work. This guide will show people how to build more of an attack based blader. If you want some other examples of different builds to choose then please refer to the area of this guide where i quoted Alcahol's ideas. Another idea that has been hinted at in other guides is to get cold and fire to 80 and use both imbues for different things. Ice imbue for PvE and Fire for PVP. This idea can work, but it will not be covered in this guide.

for the 80 cap you should raise Fire to 80, Bicheon to 80, Lightning to 80 and Cold to 30.

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for your guide you said
bicheon 80, fire 80, light 80, 30 ice....thats only 270 the limit is 300

And i think you should put other masteries build for pure str blader.
example
Bicheon 80
ice 80
light 80
60 fire

or

Bicheon 80
force 80
fire 80
light 60


This was a responce by Alcaholic. In responce to this: I deliberatly left 30 masteries free for two reasons. I believe that it's pointless leveling cold or any other master up to 60 because the 90 cap could come soon and then you'd have to get loads of cursed hearts to delevel it and spend lots of money. And secondly because you don't need to farm the extra SP to get it to 60 :-). Though my guide doesn't deal with the idea of Force or Cold playing a major role in the build, these can be successful blading builds and i suggest that if you're interested in either of these, or others, to look it up on the main guides page. But I will keep this guide simple and stick with fire.


It's widely believed that Fire is the best imbue to use if you're a STR based character. I believe this is true. This is simply because the Fire imbue does the most damage and is therefore more suited for a STR character to use.

For the 80 cap i suggest getting;

80 Fire

Fire force series. This is the fire imbue. You need to max this out completely!

Fire sheild series. This skill helps protect against the effects of other people's attacks, such as freeze or burn. Or the new european one's like Darkness. You want to max this out completely.

Flame body series. This skill will increase your physical attack damage. This is essential for a STR based character, you need to max this out.

Fire protection series. This is a must have!!! As a STR based character you need as much defence against magical attack as you can get. This skill increases your magical defence. Max this out.

Flame Devil Force Series. This is the passive skills. You need to max this out and it will perminantly change your stats. You do not need to use this as a buff.


80 Bicheon

Bicheon is a must have for a blader. It is the basic blader users mastery. It includes chains and knock downs which are essential for bladers. Here I will list the basics for a blader. It's up to you to decide if you'd like to use the others.

Chain sword attack series. These are your chains. Max these out. You will use these mainly for leveling but also at certain times in PVP.

Blade Force Series. This skill can be used from a distance to lure mobs or players towards you. You will use it mainly for leveling but it can be useful in PVP if your opponent is standing far away from you.

Heaven Blade Series and Killing Heaven Blade Series. These are you knockdowns and your stabs. Killing heaven blade series can only be used after heaven blade series and only if your opponent is knocked to the ground. These two skills are essential for a blader in PVP. Apart from dealing out huge amounts of damage, it also gives a bit of breathing time to heal whilst your opponent is on the floor. When your opponent is on the ground it's advisable to use two of the killing heaven blade series books. You can fit 2 stabs in before they stand up. Level these skills all the way up! Max max max!

Sword Dance Series. This is usefull in leveling. It can be used from a distance to lure mobs and also it can hit 3 seperate mobs all at once if they are close together. This is handy for bringing in more mobs and leveling quicker!

Sheild Protection Series. This is the passive for bicheon. It increases your blocking ratio which can help alot - max this out :D.


80 Lightning

Lightning will help for 3 different things. Magic attack, Parry and Speed.

Piercing Force Series. This will increase your magical attack, and directly raise your attack in general. So basically you'll be hitting more. Max this out.

Wind Walk Series. This is the grassflow mastery. Max this out and you will be amoung the fastest players on the server :P. The second book grass walk phantom is not necessary but it helps alot and it's loads of fun. If you can get the SP - do it!

Concentration Series. This helps your parry ratio, meaning you have more chance of your opponent doing less damage on you. For example; if a player has the average damage of 100 to 200, increasing your parry ratio will mean they will hit closer to 100 damage on you. If you have low parry ratio they are more lickely to hit closer to 200. Max this out. (Also an added note here, if you get the blue critical on your sheild - this will help you avoid criticals more. Sorry for the confusion in this area).

Heavens force series. This is the lightning passive, it will also increase your parry ratio. Max this out.


30 Cold

Frost Guard Series. This will increase your physical defence power. Being Full STR you already have alot of physical defence power but increasing it a little bit can't help!

Cold Armour Series. This is the passive, max it!

Also you might want to concider the snow sheild series, but this skill was brought in after i'd already quit so i don't know much about it. I'd suggest consulting somebody else in the skills forum.



4.Where should I fight?

If you want to follow my advice and use protector until 8th degree then you have to remember to focus on fighting STR based mobs. Being a tank, it is easy to fight mobs that are a higher level than yourself, but being a blader this can be a mistake. Due to your lower attack power, it can be a bad idea to fight higher level mobs as though you'll get more EXP per kill, you wont kill as many as you would fighting lower level or the same level mobs. I suggest using a mix of the three. This ties in well with the idea of only fighting STR based mobs.
For example; Tigers are level 14, but as a full str you can start fighting them at level 12 or 13. Black Tigers are level 17, and they are magic based so you want to avoid them. So, you kill tigers from level 12 to level 16, and then skip Black Tigers and go straight to white tigers.
Another Example could be around level 47. At level 47 you're capable of killing mujigi's and ugjigi's quite easily, so you kill them until you're level 52 and then (skipping ishades because they're magic based mobs) move on to Pennon warriors.
This method makes it easy to level as you save money on pots, and as you're leveling on one mob for more than just 1 or 2 levels you will find great places to grind, meaning quicker leveling!

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5.Has this guide helped you?

I do hope so! After browsing through the guides and builds forum I didn't find many guides on how to build a blader. This may be because to an extent it's quite self explanitory but i think it's always nice to have a helping hand.

If you have any questions i will do my best to answer them, if i can!

Also, here are a couple video's of bladers in different situations put forward by raphaell666 to help show how bladers survive in PVP.
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A really cool blader video that is worth watching: Link

A blader versus a nuker. Here you can see how a blader can tank even without knocking down all the time:Link

Collection of some PVP videos from a blader lvl 5x: Link

A blader thieving:Link

A lvl 53 blader killing nukers:
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P.S - Thank you to raphaell666 for his great contributions to this guide!

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Really good guide.
Maybe you could put some images and links to full str bladers pvp videos in it, it would be good.
About the using protector/garment, I think thats a matter of opinion, I personally prefer garment even for lvling, but protector will be really good while leveling too.

You wrote:

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for the 80 cap i think you should raise...

Change it to "for the 80 cap you should raise" because it makes it look like you have more, eh, a stronger opinion, that you know about it, that you are secure, and "i think" make it looks like you are undecided/unsecure about it.

Also, put some colors in it, like: Make the titles a diferent color, like blue and make its letter size bigger, so it looks like being more organized.
Is this your first guide? Good one.
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Hey raphaell666
Thanks for the advice! This was my first guide so i'm glad it's good.
I've added the changes you suggested, what do you think now?
Thanks again, Lifted. x

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Looks better now, though more things can be done :)

I will keep giving opinions, if you want to follow some of them, I will be glad, but if you dont, no problem at all, I'm just trying to help.

-You COULD try making an introduction part, saying what you will be talking about and what you will be trying to teach on this guide. Also put like, your opinions on this build and things like this, to make the guide more inviting to read, to make the reader interested on it and excited about this build.
-Also, try making a summary, it makes the guide look like a lot more organized and more attractive. Take a look here to see how I did a summary (you dont need to make it exactly like this, just get the idea): Link.
-I will send you pms with more videos of bladers pvping.

I will be thinking to see what else can be done 8) .

Remember: These are just my opinions, you dont need to follow any of them.

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Cool, looks nicer with an intro - what do you think?

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Great! Awesome! :D
Really good guide.

BUT:
Dont forget to put the numbers of the summary before the topic, like:

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1. Should I Be Full STR?
2. bla bla
3.....
4.....

~few lines later~

1. Should I be a full str?
Yes, if you want......


Can you understand? I dont know exactly how to explain...

EDIT: :!: Put [GUIDE] before the name of this topic. :!:
And dont use colors that are too light, such as that shiny yellow or a really light blue.

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Thanks very much mate, really appriciate your help. I put a little aknoledgement of your contribution at the end of the guide :D.

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for your guide you said
bicheon 80, fire 80, light 80, 30 ice....thats only 270 the limit is 300

And i think you should put other masteries build for pure str blader.
example
Bicheon 80
ice 80
light 80
60 fire

or

Bicheon 80
force 80
fire 80
light 60

overall this is a well made guide :)


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No problem at all. Im glad I could help you. :)

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Hi Alcaholic.
Yeah you're right i didn't make it clear why i left ice at 30.
I'm expecting the 90 update this year and i think it's easier to leave it at 30 now instead of having to get loads of cursed hearts to delevel it when 90 comes out. Pointless now with the cap update so soon i think. But i'll quote your other blader builds in there mate thanks.

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alcoholic wrote:
wow you reply fast

Maybe cause we are all online right now? 8)

And this was sort off a pointless post.. :)

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haha yeah.. was editing it while you posted :D

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Ok Alcaholic - i added in your suggestions :) thanks. <3

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Nice guide, but the job of full str blader is to tank, so why go fire? Cold would be mutch better imbue than fire, yea fire do more dmg, but cold can freeze and frozen ur enemyes and make them slower. Thats really annoying in pvp, but its the idea of Full Str Blader.

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Concentration Series. This helps your parry ratio, meaning you'll avoid criticals easier. Max this out.


The parry ratio.. more chance of ur opponent doing less dmg on u, just like attack rating. Higher attack rating -> u just do little bit more dmg to ur opponent.

So PR wont avoid about criticals. There is change to get the "critical" blue on ur shield that ignores most of ur opponents criticals, but not all of them..

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juesi wrote:
Nice guide, but the job of full str blader is to tank, so why go fire? Cold would be mutch better imbue than fire, yea fire do more dmg, but cold can freeze and frozen ur enemyes and make them slower. Thats really annoying in pvp, but its the idea of Full Str Blader.

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Concentration Series. This helps your parry ratio, meaning you'll avoid criticals easier. Max this out.


The parry ratio.. more chance of ur opponent doing less dmg on u, just like attack rating. Higher attack rating -> u just do little bit more dmg to ur opponent.

So PR wont avoid about criticals. There is change to get the "critical" blue on ur shield that ignores most of ur opponents criticals, but not all of them..

To answer about fire vs ice, read:
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Chances are at around cap most chinese builds have ice immunity and if
they don't, it's not hard to get it since ice immunity is possible for
any build with a cleric's help. Ice skills can still be useful if you
do manage to find a foe that lacks ice immunity however that can be
really rare. IMO you should stick to one imbue or the other and fire
is the more practical imbue since you never have to worry about
whether or not your enemy is immune to get the full benefit of it and
the extra damage will help.


About parry ratio you are right.
Parry ratio decreases the chances of your enemy dealing its highest damage.
Example: if your enemy hits 75-100, the higher your parry ratio, less chances your enemy have to hit near 100 on you. Hit ratio is the contrary: The higher your enemy hit ratio is, the higher his chances are to hit near 100.

To decrease the chances of your enemy criting on you, you can put the blue "Critical" on your shield. Note that not even 100 in critical can ignore all critical hits done on you.

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Sorry for the confusion Juesi,
I've made the necessary changes :-).
And thanks again raphaell666 for your help mate.

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To answer about fire vs ice, read:
fena wrote:
Manowar's Accurate Opinion:
Chances are at around cap most chinese builds have ice immunity and if
they don't, it's not hard to get it since ice immunity is possible for
any build with a cleric's help. Ice skills can still be useful if you
do manage to find a foe that lacks ice immunity however that can be
really rare. IMO you should stick to one imbue or the other and fire
is the more practical imbue since you never have to worry about
whether or not your enemy is immune to get the full benefit of it and
the extra damage will help.


ya the cleric thing is true. But with soloing chinese builds only like , 30% of the 80lvs got the cold immunity from jewellery. So there is that 70% left those who wont have immunity to cold and 40% who dont have holyword on them..

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juesi wrote:
ya the cleric thing is true. But with soloing chinese builds only like , 30% of the 80lvs got the cold immunity from jewellery. So there is that 70% left those who wont have immunity to cold and 40% who dont have holyword on them..


If you want that much to make a ice blader, go ahead. It wont suck. Though I strongly do NOT recomend doing it. In probably all fortress's wars, guilds wars, and whatever else wars there exists, there will be clerics, and you will be USELESS, you will only be able to tank and do really low damage. And in higher caps you will NEED to DELEVEL most, if not all, of the ice. Unless you want to either walk slowly, or do REALLY low damage.

I got nothing else to say about this matter. These are my opinions.

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you only told them what to wear but not what weapon to get.

blade:Good blues, critical 7 or more, phy attake +(70%) or more,
the weapon has to be atlest +3.

sheild:Good blues,block ratio 14 or more, PHY def power +(60%) or more, MAG def power +(60%) or more.
sheild atleast +3

with these weapons and sheild youd tank very well. and put out deadly dmg with a high crit


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I think people reading this guide will have looked for it because they want to make a blader. I'm assuming they will know they have to get a blader and sheild, hence the title. Also i don't think that +3 is really necessary until you get into 6th or 7th degree. And by then all players that have made it that far will know the necessities of the blade and sheild. thanks for your concern though.x

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Nice guide :). *waiting for it to join the stickies :)*

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lol thanks mate :D
Glad you approve x

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Oh no, just realised that the SUN Blader in the pic is a Vietnamese, just like me :D

Back to the topic: Nice guide. Informative and straight to the point. Helpful to me as well, even though i'm a 1H EU.

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raphaell666 wrote:
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Maybe cause we are all online right now? 8)

And this was sort off a pointless post.. :)

Then your post would be pointless, but then my post would be pointless and then everyone else's post would be pointless, ZOMG! WE ALL GONNA DIE!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Nice guide, i like the picture i hope i get as high level as you :oops:

I do have a qeustion.
Does PURE STR need to farm more SP ? if so can you put a section about SP farming ?
and also put wat is more effective to SP farm and lvl same time...just put youre experience in to it. For example
When i hit lvl 29 i have 2 new skills i can add with my Bicheon skill BloodChain & Billow Chain but in order to get that 2 skills i have to max out Illuison skill first. that would make 767 SP for that skill alone. And i haven't look in to the other skill...that why i need to know about the SP farming.

It might help noobs like my self to under stand it :P SRO is a good game overall but the SP faming is a pain in the but. :banghead: :banghead:

thanks ^_^

AP

EDIT: about the SP farming, Can i just do this ? i keep and 3/4 lvl gap between my main masteries..can i still get eough SP to max my skills ? and if i level up do i keep my Fire/Light same lvl as my Bicheon ?
During my SP faming is it wise to get a Pacheon skill ? (Anti-demon bow missle) ? to speed up the SP farming ?


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