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 Post subject: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:38 pm 
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Don't know if this has been said yet but fire/cold walls are your best bet to beat euros



Through up fire wall for any warrior it will keep you from getting KD and KB

Ice wall is great for warlocks as they cant put curses on you



lvl 90 fire wall is also good against bowmen for KB and bladers for curses

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:16 pm 
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umm.... Stun takes down walls.

Warrior has Sprint assualt = stun

Warlock can cast stun on you

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:05 pm 
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yea, but thats still a good idea

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:25 am 
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Domination wrote:
umm.... Stun takes down walls.

Warrior has Sprint assualt = stun

Warlock can cast stun on you

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theres a chance of stun failing.
is still worth a try

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
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i thought this was common knowledge, i am sorry. Yes it is some sort of protection and does rely on chance. But it is worth a shot.

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:55 am 
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Domination wrote:
umm.... Stun takes down walls.

Warrior has Sprint assualt = stun

Warlock can cast stun on you

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Actually, it's the KD that breaks the wall. :)

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:49 am 
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piXie_niXie wrote:
Don't know if this has been said yet but fire/cold walls are your best bet to beat euros



Through up fire wall for any warrior it will keep you from getting KD and KB

Ice wall is great for warlocks as they cant put curses on you



lvl 90 fire wall is also good against bowmen for KB and bladers for curses


best method vs 2hand is to switch to a good 85+5 shield when they used Dare devil,kd....dmg is drastically reduce..or even block the atk...i don't use the following method but i seen other do it and it works great...cast ice wall when you stun a warrior (most warriors use dare devil after being stun...those u will take 0 dmg. and warrior loose 10% of his max HP...only use ice wall when warrior is on bless/skin)

Fire wall is helpful to prevent bladers kd..and its not easily destroy when max.....not helpful vs bow if you are a glavier because they have a long range and u can't move.

I also found out that a max warlock/cleric can't kill you (glavier) if you have ice wall (immunity to all debuff/including sleep/stun) there DoT is not very strong to cause a prob to pure str. glavier....you can atk with flying dragon...find the perfect time to deactivate the ice wall, phantom and a emperor+storm cloud usually does the job since HP won't be max after being hit with Flying Dragon.

other euro builds are not that hard to kill.

@Barotix KD breaks the wall???
Bladers kd don't work when I use firewall :?
idk about 2hand kd..

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:44 am 
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Useless topic. With my 2h/1h warrior i can break walls easy. I just spam sprint assault and try to kb, kd him. Always works.


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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
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Fire wall prevent KD?
Ice wall=immunity to debuffs?
Are you sure? I thinking the walls only absorb dmg...........


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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:40 pm 
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Miranda125 wrote:
Fire wall prevent KD?
Ice wall=immunity to debuffs?
Are you sure? I thinking the walls only absorb dmg...........


it's a bug
the walls make you immune to debuffs

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:00 pm 
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Barotix wrote:
Domination wrote:
umm.... Stun takes down walls.

Warrior has Sprint assualt = stun

Warlock can cast stun on you

:roll:


Actually, it's the KD that breaks the wall. :)


err.... 8)

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:40 am 
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Barotix wrote:
Actually, it's the KD that breaks the wall. :)

I'm pretty sure it's the stun that breaks the Fire Wall. Not Warlock stun though because it doesn't work versus Fire Walls. I'm referring to the stun probability in the Sprint Assault skill. That's what cancels Fire Wall. Tried this several times with someone else to test it and the Fire Wall always canceled when Sprint Assault stunned them.


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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:52 am 
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Saberdude wrote:
Domination wrote:
umm.... Stun takes down walls.

Warrior has Sprint assualt = stun

Warlock can cast stun on you

:roll:

theres a chance of stun failing.
is still worth a try


theres 2 stun books
and 2 slumber ones

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:00 am 
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Miranda125 wrote:
Fire wall prevent KD?
Ice wall=immunity to debuffs?
Are you sure? I thinking the walls only absorb dmg...........

yes it works.

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:59 pm 
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Fug_Dup wrote:
Barotix wrote:
Actually, it's the KD that breaks the wall. :)

I'm pretty sure it's the stun that breaks the Fire Wall. Not Warlock stun though because it doesn't work versus Fire Walls. I'm referring to the stun probability in the Sprint Assault skill. That's what cancels Fire Wall. Tried this several times with someone else to test it and the Fire Wall always canceled when Sprint Assault stunned them.


Ouch, I meant to type KB. It would be hard to tell which one is actually doing it. Try shield bash.

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 Post subject: Re: How to beat euros
PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:23 am 
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ok here's the facts 100% proven about ice/fire walls...

can ONLY be broken by physical moves (ie. chinese weapon or euro melee) that STUN!

chinese would be bow's stun, glaive's stun
euro would be warrior's sprint, axe' stun (2 hit and lv 60+ will be 3 hit), rogue's dagger prick + screw...not sure about axe's axis quiver though.

however, it won't break 100% unless the move itself procs a stun status...so saying you'll just sprint assault and knock yourselves out will not do the trick. you'll have to probably put on vital or skins/bless and keep trying while it cooldowns until u do break it.

though to be honest - ice/fire walls only work in pvp and not in real battle applications ie. FW, GW, jobs etc. as the enemy can just run away :banghead:

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