Avalon vs. Epic discussion

Epinephrine · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 45 **Location:**

nightbloom wrote:

We cant disband.... The game wont let us. As long as we hold the fortress disbanding isnt possible.

Read my post before. Thats the easiest way to make ur promise come true.

edit. and to the persons who call me botsupport. i give a sh1t on this oppinion. i am a nonbotter, but i hate avalon for the way they act on venus. thats all.

non ego man · **Posted:** Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:14 pm

Corrupt wrote:

I'm so astonished Epic went so low.

Really? I expected them to pull every single last bullshit maneuver they possibly could in order to win. Why on earth wouldn't they? The rules of fair play were abandoned long ago by botters.

And I think that was expected by Avalon and everyone else. I think we all believed that even if they cheated in every possible way, Avalon would still come out ahead. Would Avalon have won if they pulled all the same cheating maneuvers? Of course. But that wasn't the bet. The bet was: can people with skill who play fair beat a group with much lower skill who cheat? That question has been answered.

Knuckles X · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 21 **Location:**

That they've downgraded some characters, okay. That ain't cheating. But raveling up every single character that wasn't part of the botter unions is the reason why I think Avalon should stay. And another reason why it should stay: They're just botters. They don't deserve Avalon being disbanded

Corrupt · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 548 **Location:**

Knuckles X wrote:

Here's something worth reading (I'm only saying the following according to what I've heard so far)

Would they've raveled up every single character, leveled down lots of their characters, and all other things mentioned earlier if Avalon didn't promise anything and it would be just the normal war they did for months? I bet not

They've only won now cause of motivation, thinking that Avalon actually quits if they lose and they thought everything is allowed. Tough luck

Motivation for what? None of them actually play the game. So they won to be able to play afk in a safe environment now? Sitting around watching a program level you all day then go cape up to 1vs1 is fun?

deathtoall · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 619 **Location:**

Just to let all know here. I really hoped Avalon would have won. But they didn't, oh well. Don't make excuses about how unfair it was. There was people buffing/ressing/healing from BHA and the other guilds in AVA union. And even if you only recruited 1 person ( Zanthra)... you still recruited. I like how Witch was one of the first to start talking shit about outside help when he was helping almost the entire war. Anyways, nice war.

Oh and to the people talking about how low epic went. All is fair in warfare. Being the tactician Fly is he should have realized what Epic was gonna do(which he probably knew) and counter there cheating. So in all fairness, noone has any right to b1tch.

IceCrash · **Posted:** Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:20 pm

you gotta be kidding me death seriously
wasnt expecting that atitude from ya

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

deathtoall wrote:

Just to let all know here. I really hoped Avalon would have won. But they didn't, oh well. Don't make excuses about how unfair it was. There was people buffing/ressing/healing from BHA and the other guilds in AVA union. And even if you only recruited 1 person ( Zanthra)... you still recruited. I like how Witch was one of the first to start talking shit about outside help when he was helping almost the entire war. Anyways, nice war.

Oh and to the people talking about how low epic went. All is fair in warfare. Being the tactician Fly is he should have realized what Epic was gonna do(which he probably knew) and counter there cheating. So in all fairness, noone has any right to b1tch.

lol i killed you, you had a cape on

maykelpachecho · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 49 **Location:**

IceCrash wrote:

you gotta be kidding me death seriously
wasnt expecting that atitude from ya

hahaha he is noob?

shadowrunner · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 113 **Location:**

nightbloom wrote:

We cant disband.... The game wont let us. As long as we hold the fortress disbanding isnt possible.

this is childish nb...
the agreement was that the loosing guild is supposed to disband. eot.
I'm terrified that Avalon lost. now I'll loose all respect for you if you show that you have no honor. they were bots, they cheated, but still you lost. there is no excuse for not keeping your end of agreement, unless you want to show that you are not trustworthy.
how can anybody trust people who set up the rules, if they themselves don't keep their word?

make a new guild, harden up and kick their ass. show them that one loss to cheaters won't break your spirit.

deathtoall · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 619 **Location:**

Crash, Im not for the bots, just saying all in all it was a war. 2 sides played it differently, and epic won. Nothing bad towards avalon. Just they should have seen this coming eventually, noone is unbeatable.

Guardia · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1187 **Location:**

We wont disband. We shouldnt be fair to botters. iGod and vortex, fckin leave the forum now u botters. iGod, u're playing a botted char. WTH was that? U're part of a bot guild and played a botted char. If that's not bot support, then this forum need a re-check on something.

Good war nevertheless. We'll learn from this. And to other legits out there, stop hoping that we will disband because we wont. PERIOD. They can talk smack all they want, we dont fckin care. We're still the one who play the game as they're meant to be played. Stop talking about honor and all those bullcrap. Botters dont deserve shit.

Avalon will always be in Venus. We just lost once for god sakes!

IceCrash · **Posted:** Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:26 pm

lolz..
i beg ppl to get their comon sences working overhere
Avalon, don't disband
Legits, get your morale up, now we know that us legits are way stronger than the botters.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Quote:

We shouldnt be fair to botters.

Strength through humility. Lead by example. If we don't adhere to our terms then we're no better than them. It is us against them. Take the high road.... disband.

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

Guardia wrote:

We wont disband. We shouldnt be fair to botters. iGod and vortex, fckin leave the forum now u botters. iGod, u're playing a botted char. WTH was that? U're part of a bot guild and played a botted char. If that's not bot support, then this forum need a re-check on something.

Good war nevertheless. We'll learn from this. And to other legits out there, stop hoping that we will disband because we wont. PERIOD. They can talk smack all they want, we dont fckin care. We're still the one who play the game as they're meant to be played. Stop talking about honor and all those bullcrap. Botters dont deserve shit.

Avalon will always be in Venus. We just lost once for god sakes!

I'm above botting / not botting. Proof I used a botted char and which char was it? Even if I did, I wasn't helping botters, but old friends from olympus ^^

I hoped we were all above this, I guess we'll have to see what the staff says.

skillznl · **Posted:** Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:31 pm

Guardia wrote:

We wont disband. We shouldnt be fair to botters. iGod and vortex, fckin leave the forum now u botters. iGod, u're playing a botted char. WTH was that? U're part of a bot guild and played a botted char. If that's not bot support, then this forum need a re-check on something.

Good war nevertheless. We'll learn from this. And to other legits out there, stop hoping that we will disband because we wont. PERIOD. They can talk smack all they want, we dont fckin care. We're still the one who play the game as they're meant to be played. Stop talking about honor and all those bullcrap. Botters dont deserve shit.

Avalon will always be in Venus. We just lost once for god sakes!

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

Quote:

We shouldnt be fair to botters.

Strength through humility. Lead by example. If we don't adhere to our terms then we're no better than them. It is us against them. Take the high road.... disband.

Fly]
if we lost, i would disband the guild as a punishment to myself and my members. each and every member in my guild is hand picked because of there love for pvp. in battle they do as there told and victory has never been a problem. there gear is the best, there builds are strong. they are fully farmed. they have a great battle plan and there will to fight is unmatched. I dont doubt for a min they will give anything less then there best in battle.

the ONLY way we could lose, is if members decide to not show up. not showing up to a war is disgracefull. if thats the reason for defeat, the guild deserves to be disbanded.
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[quote="Guardia wrote:

We wont disband. We shouldnt be fair to botters. iGod and vortex, fckin leave the forum now u botters. iGod, u're playing a botted char. WTH was that? U're part of a bot guild and played a botted char. If that's not bot support, then this forum need a re-check on something.

Good war nevertheless. We'll learn from this. And to other legits out there, stop hoping that we will disband because we wont. PERIOD. They can talk smack all they want, we dont fckin care. We're still the one who play the game as they're meant to be played. Stop talking about honor and all those bullcrap. Botters dont deserve shit.

Avalon will always be in Venus. We just lost once for god sakes!

the point isn't being fair to bots its keeping true to your word

deathtoall · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 619 **Location:**

Nobodies morale is down. Its justy proof that even the mighty avalon loses once. Thats it. Noone knows what will happen. I remember Fly spouting once how they will never lose a gw to bots. Remember that convo fly. Its ok, it happens.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

I believe Fly doesn't break promises.

WitchHazel · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 422 **Location:**

DEATH IS A ******. HAHAHA YOU READ THAT BITCH. YOU ARE A FCKING ******, YOU DUMB MEXICAN FCK. whats a matter, you couldn't read my globals. or are you too blinded from selling oranges on the highway. I said BOTH guilds had outside buffers. BOO on them both. I came to help when I saw what epic was doing. so with all the buffers, it would have been a fair fight either way. On another note, had it just been a normal guild war, Avalon would have pwnd them 10k to prolly 1.5k. Don't go spamming threads with your stupid garbage.

BTW, the fort should go to Odyssey. Just to piss everyone off. USA FTW.

only_me · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 561 **Location:**

lol foudre ...
now u ?

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

only_me wrote:

lol foudre ...
now u ?

me what?

edit

oh oh OHHHHH

Eh i wouldn't say no to the fort, but in all honesty I don't want to get up at 5 am to defend it every time

deathtoall · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 619 **Location:**

You must be talking about pest witch, he is the beaner..lol And if you are he will lvl just to kill you over and over you retarded fck. You started off saying it was just the bots, then changed your stance on like your forth global, now shush.

Zanam · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

Epinephrine wrote:

Downleveling for this guildwar isn't cheating in my opinion, it was tactic.

oh mam i wasnt cheating Before the test i just took a peice of paper and wrote down all the answers it was a tactic!

and P.S your a dumbfuck we didnt say union we said guild.

And i dont doubt one DAMN bit in my mind That epic wouldnt of disbanded if they had lost.

Knuckles X · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 21 **Location:**

What honor are these people talking about? Pull yourself together man, it's just a game.

What does it bring you if you keep your word and disband Avalon for good? NOTHING! It'll only give an edge for botters

What does it bring you if you don't keep your word and keep Avalon? NOTHING!

What does it bring you if you'll be either fair or unfair to botters? NOTHING, NOTHING and NOTHING!

Personally, I don't give a hoohah about what will happen. Sure, I wanna fight botters and I wanna get rid of them in Venus, but that doesn't mean anything about having honor or not. If ya ask me, it's pointless

Kewtie · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 413 **Location:**

Hey NB and Fly, Odyssey has 6 openings for serious plays that want to follow the legit rules..........So if you would like to join Odyssey just pm Kewtie in game! =)

LOLS (sorry humor may not be appreciated now, but you know me)

WitchHazel · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 422 **Location:**

the only stance i have is death sucks, thank god he is not in a legit guild, same goes for the whole family. yer all pieces of shit. try and kill me pls..

iGod · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 3728 **Location:**

Wow some of you Avalon union mates really have a short temper and a way with words, but I bet thats not what your union is all about, so I suggest you stop embarrassing yourselves :/

Guardia · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1187 **Location:**

lolz, i missed witch in this MODE. Welcome back.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

It's technically Midnight Union.

Zanam · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

It's technically Midnight Union.

Avalon union. it was midnights When fly was inactive. now its back to Avalon union

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