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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:50 pm 
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Nice, Now all the turkish botters are gonna try to rob the trades and fail miserably.
GG.

Fixed. :P

I'm all for the idea. I think that anything that can further unite the legit community, and very unique community, on Venus, the better everything is in the long run.


lol, Necro fixed before me. only 10% are theives? Well that makes it all the more fun and challenging for that 10% when this event gets its gears into motion. (Or we can ask 1/3 of the Union(s) to go thief for competition's sake 8) )

I like killing hunters and traders, always have always will. I have my reasons... which i will explain in a GD thread ^^ Huzzah.

I think some will switch back soon enough. Tha whole point of going hunter/trader to begin with was to entice more triangular conflict action, because as a union that was, for the majority, thieves, there were no trades to ever rob. Only trades out were low level 1*s.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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I like the idea of having more organized events funded by the Fortress War funds. In doing that, I also agree that some sort of rules would need to be in place to govern how the money is spent. Anything more than that is going to be hard to manage.

We are all allied because we agree not to bot or buy gold. That is a nice broad agreement that is easy to stick to. If we add more rules we will start having more conflicts between players/guilds/unions.

I would hate to see this turn into some counsel telling guilds leaders how to run there guild or they get no money. I for one deal with enough plp telling me what to do in RL and will not deal with it in this game.

Only reason I listen to my guild leader is because he is my friend and he can tell you even that bond is sometimes not enough to make me do something I don't want to do. (Poor Tom :oops: )

OK there is my 2 cents. I think we are headed in the right direction, I just wanted to get my opinion out there. We were talking about this in our guild last night and Ryan made a good suggestion that I hope he posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:52 pm 
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Okay we talk a lot,
Lets realize the project now? :D

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:39 pm 
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SG probably hates setting up private forums for every little thing (or maybe he loves it) but anyway...I suggest setting up a private forum with Fly, SG and Witch as the Triumverate and individual guild leader can PM their respective union leader with their nomination for Senator.

Each senator will be given access to the Private forum during their tenure and can be removed afterward. Of course, the triumvirate will have admin rights to add and kick members.

That forum can be used to propose and discuss policy for the purposes we already discussed here.


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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:19 pm 
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The voting system requires the managment of a shitload of people / unique permissions that might skrew up SRF's permission settings so i set up a clean install of phpbb on my ftp.

feel free to register and get started.

Each guild leader who wants to participate needs to go sign up, get verified, and nominate a representivite from there guild.

Those wishing to get the 1st Chancellor seat should start thinking about raising support, getting there supporters signed up and verified, and planning there big selling points that they will use to get elected.

my next step will be to get the Treasury set up with accurate numbers to give people a good view of where the legit community stands money wise.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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Checked the Jangan Tax manager and did some math, atm we have 250m in there, by next FW we should have 350-400m. minus the money needed to pay participating guilds, here is where the Treasury stands atm:


The Confederate Treasury
As of March 28, 2008 the Confederate Treasury holds 400,000,000 Gold.
Projected Income for April 2, 2008 is estimated to be 250,000,000 Gold

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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Hope to see 24/7 bot traps and also bot hunting squads for high lvl area where bot traps dont work.
With those, hopefully sooner or later Gold Bots will give up Venus.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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What happens when someone else wins fort war? I would assume that they would want to pimp all there guild members out before they wanted to participate in this?

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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What happens when someone else wins fort war?


HAHAHAHAHA...thats a good one, shorty.


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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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So is there any guild from the confederation that would be willing to accept a fast lvling and quite active Rouge/Warlock to their guild? I'm currently just lvl 22(started out yesterday) but I'm rising fast. I'm located on gmt +1 so a guild with mainly Europeans would be preferable, although everything is fine as I'm on most of the time anyways.(my girlfriend thinks I'm cheating on her so she won't talk to me, which leaves me to playing all night.. quite pathetic I know xP)

It's starting to get lonely without the guild and union chat, even tho I have nuck for making friends with random people I meet while grinding xD(which is kind of strange.. considering my repulsive IGN)

Anyways, IGN is _HATRED_ feel free to pm me if you've got a spot.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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Summanus wrote:
So is there any guild from the confederation that would be willing to accept a fast lvling and quite active Rouge/Warlock to their guild? I'm currently just lvl 22(started out yesterday) but I'm rising fast. I'm located on gmt +1 so a guild with mainly Europeans would be preferable, although everything is fine as I'm on most of the time anyways.(my girlfriend thinks I'm cheating on her so she won't talk to me, which leaves me to playing all night.. quite pathetic I know xP)

It's starting to get lonely without the guild and union chat, even tho I have nuck for making friends with random people I meet while grinding xD(which is kind of strange.. considering my repulsive IGN)

Anyways, IGN is _HATRED_ feel free to pm me if you've got a spot.


I'm sure most guilds in BHA will let you in.


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Toasty wrote:
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So is there any guild from the confederation that would be willing to accept a fast lvling and quite active Rouge/Warlock to their guild? I'm currently just lvl 22(started out yesterday) but I'm rising fast. I'm located on gmt +1 so a guild with mainly Europeans would be preferable, although everything is fine as I'm on most of the time anyways.(my girlfriend thinks I'm cheating on her so she won't talk to me, which leaves me to playing all night.. quite pathetic I know xP)

It's starting to get lonely without the guild and union chat, even tho I have nuck for making friends with random people I meet while grinding xD(which is kind of strange.. considering my repulsive IGN)

Anyways, IGN is _HATRED_ feel free to pm me if you've got a spot.


I'm sure most guilds in BHA will let you in.

So what more guilds than BH and SD is there in that union? Because unfortunately both BH and SD have 40+ req :(

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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Summanus wrote:
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So is there any guild from the confederation that would be willing to accept a fast lvling and quite active Rouge/Warlock to their guild? I'm currently just lvl 22(started out yesterday) but I'm rising fast. I'm located on gmt +1 so a guild with mainly Europeans would be preferable, although everything is fine as I'm on most of the time anyways.(my girlfriend thinks I'm cheating on her so she won't talk to me, which leaves me to playing all night.. quite pathetic I know xP)

It's starting to get lonely without the guild and union chat, even tho I have nuck for making friends with random people I meet while grinding xD(which is kind of strange.. considering my repulsive IGN)

Anyways, IGN is _HATRED_ feel free to pm me if you've got a spot.


I'm sure most guilds in BHA will let you in.

So what more guilds than BH and SD is there in that union? Because unfortunately both BH and SD have 40+ req :(


Hurricane, Asylum, Sapphire, or Midnight.

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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Barotix wrote:
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So is there any guild from the confederation that would be willing to accept a fast lvling and quite active Rouge/Warlock to their guild? I'm currently just lvl 22(started out yesterday) but I'm rising fast. I'm located on gmt +1 so a guild with mainly Europeans would be preferable, although everything is fine as I'm on most of the time anyways.(my girlfriend thinks I'm cheating on her so she won't talk to me, which leaves me to playing all night.. quite pathetic I know xP)

It's starting to get lonely without the guild and union chat, even tho I have nuck for making friends with random people I meet while grinding xD(which is kind of strange.. considering my repulsive IGN)

Anyways, IGN is _HATRED_ feel free to pm me if you've got a spot.


I'm sure most guilds in BHA will let you in.

So what more guilds than BH and SD is there in that union? Because unfortunately both BH and SD have 40+ req :(


Hurricane, Asylum, Sapphire, or Midnight.


Silly Baro only Asylum is in BHA of the guilds you listed. BHA consists of Blackhand, SuddenDeath, Asylum, Power, Legends, Ninjitsu, uBp_Knights and Dutch_Nature.


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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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hm.. let's see here:
Asylum is full.

BH, SD and Ninjitsu all have too high lvl req(+30)..

Power, Legends and uBp_Knights doesn't seem to have guild threads here so I don't know anything about em'.

and Dutch Nature does seem like a guild for dutch people(not that I have anything against dutch people, but it certainly would be nice to understand what's said in the guild chat).

Though luck xD

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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Lets get back on topic.!!!

I think this is a great idea! BUT also this is a game please lets all remember this. We all have different schedules and live all across the planet. Do we really think that we can get 24 people to meet at the same time and agree on one thing? again this is a great idea but people come and go from this game for different reasons I want this to work and would be a representative of my guild if they so choose. I dont really like the title of senator. I think we all have been watching a bit to much Star Wars lately! Supreme Chancellor? really?

The guild masters are responsible people! If they were not it would get back to the union leaders. Here is what I think would be similar to this and work just fine. --- Give a cirtain amount of money to each Union Leader to be distributed to the guilds in a way that they see fit. one week maybe one needs some gold a bit more... its ok people remember its only a game! that money will go toward what the guild master thinks the guild needs. sos gear, paying higher lvl char to pwrlvl some of the new players up to a lvl where they can easily get into parties, gold for setting up bot traps, per bot killed, or just giving some gold to each active member.. but the distribution would be up to the guild master. one thing I miss most about my last server was all the gold that I walked away from.. if each guild had money to give its members for good gear to share there would be less demand to "buy Gold" or at least take away that temtation. In every game people cheat! it does not matter what the game is. you name the game and someone has found a way to cheat at it.. I don't! I dont feel the need to. I enjoy the game for what it is. and want to play it the way it was meant to be played. I think other people feel the same way! that is what the What Fly and NightBloom has done on this server, and why I have moved and stay.

I would highly support weekly events. union events. all 3 union events etc. the more events the stronger the "legit" people will get to know eachother. communication is key! lets start small.. start simple.. someone has to be a leader! it seems like a huge task to be in charge of 3 unions and hundreds of "legit" players. seems like it would be best to delegate athority down to other people. I applaude these efforts to make the GAME better!

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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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it was based mostly on rome, not star wars :P


anyways, Qi is representing Asylum and I think Kari will represent Avalon. any other guilds participating need to go sign up and get there reps signed up.

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Good to know. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Setting up a Venus legit Confederation
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ATM we are looking at the largest Tax imcome ever from the Jangan Fortress. it will be around 600M+ with a huge majority of that going into the Treasury.

All we need is for the representivies to be picked and signed up:
Confederation Forum

Once we have the majority of the Senate chosen and ready, we can begin with forming up plans for the things everyone has suggested. 24/7 bot traps, events, ect.

But, in order for any of that to be possible, people need to sign up and pick there senators!

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lol ryan they ignore anything that does not start with "WOW AWSOME I'M IN".

ok, let's go. Well get Jehuty to sign up the Ninja's and you or Toasty can do it.


WOW AWSOME IDEA! THIS IS GOING TO ROCK! :D

lol - sorry guys I hate always being the wet blanket but it's the project manager in me. I am sure it will be just fine and it is prbly better to work the kinks out along the way instead of endless dicussions. If this is the way Fly wants to do it then I am all for it cause I want his loot. :twisted:

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Sorry babygirl Ninjitsu aint listed in the 1st Senate thread on SRA so you are outta luck j/k. :shock: :shock: I am sure it will be updated with all the guilds in the BHA union: SD,Asylum,BlackHand,Ninjitsu,DutchNature,Power,Legends

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i had no idea who was in ur union so i did not even attempt to guess. once ur leader picks his rep it will be listed.

once everyone picks there guy, only then can we get started.

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Sorry babygirl Ninjitsu aint listed in the 1st Senate thread on SRA so you are outta luck j/k. :shock: :shock: I am sure it will be updated with all the guilds in the BHA union: SD,Asylum,BlackHand,Ninjitsu,DutchNature,Power,Legends



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Sorry babygirl Ninjitsu aint listed in the 1st Senate thread on SRA so you are outta luck j/k. :shock: :shock: I am sure it will be updated with all the guilds in the BHA union: SD,Asylum,BlackHand,Ninjitsu,DutchNature,Power,Legends



Forgot uBp_Knights.


To Fly: yeah I figured that ....I was just razzing my favorite shortcake cuz she gets riled up so easily

To Blindfire: Dammit! I knew I was forgetting someone and I was too lazy to log in and check the union list..........sorry uBp_Knights MUCH LOVE TO YA!!!!!!!!!

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remember, only lvl 4 and 5 guilds can choose a senator. all guilds under those levels have there senator picked by the union leader from the lead guild.

i updated the list. its slowly filling up.

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lol
Blindfire wrote:
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Sorry babygirl Ninjitsu aint listed in the 1st Senate thread on SRA so you are outta luck j/k. :shock: :shock: I am sure it will be updated with all the guilds in the BHA union: SD,Asylum,BlackHand,Ninjitsu,DutchNature,Power,Legends



Forgot uBp_Knights.


=P

I know i'm a dork. lol i have already be banned from ever being a senator by Jehuty, just to keep us from being kicked from the union for my mouth.

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eh i'll just apoint angeleyes for hurricane, its either them or z3rgling but angel is already on srf

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lmao @ Asy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS: I read about page 1 and half 2... I still need to read up to page 3 so I can reply :P

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