Odyssey seperates from Avalon

Necrobat · **Posted:** Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:15 am

I have no problems with any of your members. Seriously, I could very easily act like nothing has happened. But it has, and we had no hand in it. It's not like he has come here bitching at us for kicking him. He withdrew himself.
Withdrew himself.
Himself.

Point across?

I never had problems with members of Odyssey, I doubt I'd ever have troubles with them unless they start shit with me. But when the leader of your guild withdraws from the union, bitches at our union and then we get an admission that we were being used for selfish reasons, it doesn't reflect too well on him, and by association, your guild.

WitchHazel · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 422 **Location:**

You are 100% right, sorry avalon.

Belgarath · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1745 **Location:**

I have had no involvment in the prior incidents. I have been a witness and listener to everything.

From the first time Witch and Kewtie came in vent, I've disliked them. I do not think they are bad people, I just can't stand them for some reason. Kewtie whines all the time and I havent listened to Witch enough to form an opinion.

I still havent seen Witch address the NoDC client. He calls us hypocritical :roll:

Avalon and Odyssey obviously run two different guilds with two different philosophies. You know how many times a unique has been ksed by an Avalon member from another Avalon member? Countless. Are we offended? No. As you say Witch, its just a game. I've countless stories of Avalon members murdering each other on a whim. Is it a lack of respect? NO! They are just having fun because ITS JUST A GAME.

I love how you say Avalon has a lack of leadership.
Leader of the most successful guild and union: Fly!
Who taught you how to be a guild leader?(Even though you apparently suck at it) Fly!
Which guild holds the fortress? Oh yea, Avalon.
Who doesnt use NoDC client? Avalon.
Who is one of the best guild leaders ever? Fly.

Edit:
Witch, you can stop the sarcastic bullshit.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:52 am

You know, I like cookies.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

hmm <SAVED THIS POST FOR AN EPIC RESPONSE> I'll be back later.
First EDIT: I'll be on Vent from now on when i play, it appears i have more to learn.
Second EDIT: Witch you used Avalon and Fly's prestige to further an agenda in hopes of gaining power?
Third EDIT: <To come: this will be the EPIC one>

Necrobat · **Posted:** Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:07 am

I wouldn't say anybody is 100% right Witch, but you just need to state your concerns and hear everybody's opinion on things. Letting things build up without saying anything causes things like this where it all rushes out. If something happens, don't hesitate to have a proper conversation with people over it. The more you let others help you, the more you can help them later on and the happier everyone is.

non ego man · **Posted:** Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:32 am

Necrobat wrote:

I wouldn't say anybody is 100% right Witch, but you just need to state your concerns and hear everybody's opinion on things. Letting things build up without saying anything causes things like this where it all rushes out. If something happens, don't hesitate to have a proper conversation with people over it. The more you let others help you, the more you can help them later on and the happier everyone is.

Why I love this guy. True for everyone.

PureStr · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1244 **Location:** GTA5

---Rev--- wrote:

you cause more drama than a character in Desperate Housewife and you aint good looking enough to get away with it.

That made me seriously lol

Epic statement

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

Belgarath wrote:

I have had no involvment in the prior incidents. I have been a witness and listener to everything.

From the first time Witch and Kewtie came in vent, I've disliked them. I do not think they are bad people, I just can't stand them for some reason. Kewtie whines all the time and I havent listened to Witch enough to form an opinion.

I still havent seen Witch address the NoDC client. He calls us hypocritical :roll:

Avalon and Odyssey obviously run two different guilds with two different philosophies. You know how many times a unique has been ksed by an Avalon member from another Avalon member? Countless. Are we offended? No. As you say Witch, its just a game. I've countless stories of Avalon members murdering each other on a whim. Is it a lack of respect? NO! They are just having fun because ITS JUST A GAME.

I love how you say Avalon has a lack of leadership.
Leader of the most successful guild and union: Fly!
Who taught you how to be a guild leader?(Even though you apparently suck at it) Fly!
Which guild holds the fortress? Oh yea, Avalon.
Who doesnt use NoDC client? Avalon.
Who is one of the best guild leaders ever? Fly.

Edit:
Witch, you can stop the sarcastic bullshit.

though i do know of a few people in avalon who use a no dc client, i won't name names, i know 2 people who do, thats because jen does, and said its the same one that blank and blank use, these 2 people are also on this forum, but dont' boast not using a no dc client when i know for a fact some members in your guild do

part of me was excited to see odyssey leave, but now saddened that they joined bh, i was hoping they'd go off to form their own union, which btw they used to have almost a full union that they completly dumped to go to avalon.

You know witch you could have simply said you thought it was better for your members that you joined bh, and no one would have questioned it, in fact everyone would have supported you.

I thought about moving hurricane to bh before too because of the same lvls, but my members didn't want to leave the union, most of your members were dumbfounded by the separation, you should have the respect for your members and ask them what they think before you just leave like that

Dian Jie · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 737 **Location:** Valhalla

woke up this morning and Ody aren't in BHA, wether that is Witch's doing no idea. Boy, 4 pages in 8hrs, wow.

simi · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 187 **Location:**

We had to leave cuz alliance of BHA and Avalon were under threat while we were in BHA...

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

simi wrote:

We had to leave cuz alliance of BHA and Avalon were under threat while we were in BHA...

so wait now they already left black hand?

QingMei · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 673 **Location:**

foudre wrote:

simi wrote:

We had to leave cuz alliance of BHA and Avalon were under threat while we were in BHA...

so wait now they already left black hand?

Yeah they left BHA yesterday.

WitchHazel · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 422 **Location:**

Look, this is going to be my lost post on this topic, because it is getting out of control. I didn't think before I posted it. And well, there are the ramafications for it. I posted my opinion of Avalon. Thats right. My opinion. In which everyone is entitled to. Of the things I have heard people say in vent, and in game, I felt that being in the union was just not the best choice for the guild. As the weeks went by and the things I saw, my frustration progressed, and I should not have let that happen. As it was appearrent towards the end, I know alot of people were unhappy with me. For that I will apologize. thats not the normal me. And yes, I know, it's just a game. But being a former botter, and going legit, and grinding, not being power leveled to lvl 73, was what i felt, a great accomplishment. and I was very proud to be a legit player, and took it way to seriously.

People in avalon, feel I have turned against them and that we are now enemies. that is not the case in my opinion, nor is that the way my guild has wanted it to be. My guild members are happy about where they are. I have only lost 4 ppl, 1 kicked for accessive plvl, and the other 3 were friends from xian that avalon didn't have room for. I'm sure this thread will get closed soon, and will get buried away with the rest of the mistakes that have been posted. But really, there is no war, I have no hatred towards avalon, nor any of it's members. I just don't share the same views and opinions as they do. If that makes me their enemy, then that is the choice they have.

But for me, my guild, and my friends I grind with, my choice was to remove Odyssey from what i feel was not the best enviroment for them. I could have gone about it in several different and more friendly ways, and thats what I should have done. I took odyssey to BHA for my members, not for me. They partied with them on a daily basis. I felt it would be better for them there. However, after celsius invited us, then felt the drama from it 24 hours later, I chose not to bring their good union into the nonsense that is going on here. So i told them I was sorry, and I left.

Again, this is my final post on this topic, as i am sure it will be closed soon. If there is something you want me to see, pls, say it to me in game.

Thanks~Witch

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

please go a form your own union now, so we can have competition

Asyamura · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 383 **Location:**

foudre wrote:

please go a form your own union now, so we can have competition

That would be a great idea +1

wakoo · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 251 **Location:**

---Rev--- wrote:

I will post this so that maybe you will all be to busy looking at it to fight

look at the br!

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

simi wrote:

We had to leave cuz alliance of BHA and Avalon were under threat while we were in BHA...

Wait, what? :shock:

Our alliance with BHA would never be threatened...

exact · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 113 **Location:** Holland

Asyamura wrote:

simi wrote:

Asyamura wrote:

simi A.k.a Agamotto, please make sense when you type something because I cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Because the way you responded to Fly's quote is like a kid saying look look he took my candy give it back.

hmm..what should i say?..
"haha..u re very funny asy!!"
is that enough?

Basini ellerinin arasina koy ve iki dakika dusun, ne kadar nankor bir sekilde davrandigini ve seni yoneten ruhsal hastasinin davranislarina bak. Sen ne dersende akilli bir insan oldugunu dusunuyorum, belki Avalonu sevmiyorsun o senin bilecegin birsey. Ama bu salakca yapilan savasin masasi olma cunku buna laik degilsin. okullunda basarilar dilerim umarim bu gunleri atlatirsin.

ve birsey daha, sende bende Mai'yi cok iyi taniyoruz ve arkadasimizdir, sen nasil boyle konusmasina Mai'yi masa olarak kullanmasina sebep olabilirsin ?

yeah right. Speak english

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

Asyamura wrote:

simi wrote:

Asyamura wrote:

simi A.k.a Agamotto, please make sense when you type something because I cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Because the way you responded to Fly's quote is like a kid saying look look he took my candy give it back.

hmm..what should i say?..
"haha..u re very funny asy!!"
is that enough?

Basini ellerinin arasina koy ve iki dakika dusun, ne kadar nankor bir sekilde davrandigini ve seni yoneten ruhsal hastasinin davranislarina bak. Sen ne dersende akilli bir insan oldugunu dusunuyorum, belki Avalonu sevmiyorsun o senin bilecegin birsey. Ama bu salakca yapilan savasin masasi olma cunku buna laik degilsin. okullunda basarilar dilerim umarim bu gunleri atlatirsin.

ve birsey daha, sende bende Mai'yi cok iyi taniyoruz ve arkadasimizdir, sen nasil boyle konusmasina Mai'yi masa olarak kullanmasina sebep olabilirsin ?

yeah right. Speak english[/quote]
why? simi can understand him

crazy_foo · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1387 **Location:**

problem solved we all happy now?

Skyve · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 7328 **Location:** Canada

To my eyes,Witch just expressed his opinion,and them you come blame us for starting drama?!
Avalon,Arreter d'etre des deux de pic :wink:

Toasty · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 2568 **Location:**

Loki wrote:

To my eyes,Witch just expressed his opinion,and them you come blame us for starting drama?!
Avalon,Arreter d'etre des deux de pic :wink:

This has settled now.. leave it.

[SD]Kratos · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4787 **Location:**

Loki wrote:

To my eyes,Witch just expressed his opinion,and them you come blame us for starting drama?!
Avalon,Arreter d'etre des deux de pic :wink:

why would you speak in french. And btw u must be from quebec, right?

IguanaRampage · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 2483 **Location:** Changing

wakoo wrote:

look at the br!

That would be incredibly sexy... if it weren't lvl 64

. Kari's shield > That one still purely because of defenses and lvl 72. =) Both of you have great shields though lol. Did you make that one yourself?

armands · **Posted:** Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:42 am

MrBow wrote:

shit >.< legits shouldnt fight eachother, they should fight together

You can't argue with the ones who don't answer(bot), so they argue with each other. :roll:

simi · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 187 **Location:**

foudre wrote:

why? simi can understand him

Yea, I understand him. Not only me but also u all have to understand what he wrote...

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

simi wrote:

foudre wrote:

why? simi can understand him

Yea, I understand him. Not only me but also u all have to understand what he wrote...

not really, i i only speak french german and english, but engilsh best of all

exact · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 113 **Location:** Holland

foudre wrote:

simi wrote:

foudre wrote:

why? simi can understand him

Yea, I understand him. Not only me but also u all have to understand what he wrote...

not really, i i only speak french german and english, but engilsh best of all

i can see that

Beaver · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 81 **Location:** England

Will someone lock this topic, the discussion has ended.

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