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Assuming that the pending bot ban will eliminate many of the higher level goldbots (those not in Jangan) this may be a great opportunity to reduce goldfarming on Venus. It will be the first time since the server opened that all of the goldbots will be back in Jangan. If we can establish one or more consistent bot traps outside the gates, the bots will never be able to get past lvl 20 and infest the rest of the server. How long before the players running these things realize that this server is a dead end and they'll be better off on another server? Probably not long. They're pretty flaky.

I'm sure others have already thought of this but I haven't seen it posted so lets get it coordinated. If someone wants to post a bot trap guide/tutorial with some tips, it would help those that haven't done it before. For example, at what level does your light thief do enough splash damage to one-shot a level 10-20 goldbot?

If there's enough interest, we can establish schedules and such. Maybe pool together money to pay for pots for the trappers. Please post your thoughts.

Posted on SRF and SRA.

i got plenty of cash to pay for the pots of the bot traps. i think this is a great idea if the gold bots are the main target of the ban.

I will do my best to egt my guild and union behind the idea.

Never done a bot trap before so any kind of guide would be great, but I would be happy to donate pots for the cause.

What might be nice is to have some Avalon hunters "on-call" in case a high level botter thief comes and kills the lower-level trapper. It would be great to have 8 capped Avalon euros trapping 24/7 but that's unrealistic. If some members can commit to protecting the trappers in the event of emergency, that would be great. Also, a clear way of getting in touch with them.



Likewise for me. I know the fundamentals but tips would be handy. Here's a start and please add or correct if you have more experience.

Suit up as trader, pack a horse and go to the east gate jangan, middle arch. Start spawning thieves and kill all non-lightning bow thieves. Draw the light thieves' fire but don't kill them. Find a spot on the bot path where they pause and stand there tanking the light damage. When the bots pause, they'll get splash damage from you and die.

Problem is, the player bots running all these goldbots get pissy and suit up as thieves and kill you. So you need some protection.

A few nooby questions: do you spawn thieves without a transport (I don't think so)? Do the thief spawns time-out after a while or remain as long as their target is there? In other words, do you need to keep your transport up or can you drop it after getting 4 or 5 light thieves?

Like I said, please correct and add whatever. Maybe we can make this into a proper bot trap tutorial (couldn't find one in search).

The thing is, it would be better to put these in dw, i see way more bots ther than in jangan. One set up at east gate dw would be perfect.

yah, but the idea is that this bot ban will take out a huge number of the gold bots EVERYWHERE, which means that the bot farmers will have to start new, lvl 1 goldbots, which would have to leave - you guessed it - jangan. so setting up a trap here would be perfect, but ONLY if the ban goes the way we plan.

SG beat me to it but I ain't gonna edit so here you go:

Well, I'm assuming that the bot ban list will contain a majority of the higher level goldbots on the server. If so, they'll all be starting over again in Jangan. I want to catch them in Jangan before they get higher level. Keep them from ever getting to DW. If this works, it will be simple to manage because the trap will only need to be set at one gate: Jangan east. Even if the trap was up for 6-10 hours per day, as long as the bots never got to DW, they'd delvl during those 6-10 hours and be stuck in Jangan.

The SRO Renaissance is on the way!

It was about time for Joymax to react!

One negative thing in this issue, our Income from Jangan taxes will be cut down.

But, we better have more free slots to login, than gold.

not true. more gold bots in jangan = more money. even if they dont leave the gate

The tax from the JANGAN fortress will be enough to cover the cost of this. I would definately offer like 3mil/hour or something rediculous to anyone who does this. 3*24*7 = 504Mil. If the fortress starts raking in 1m/2m+ gold, this is def a possibility. It would be like going on a traderun to make money, except you can make it without any loss, and help eliminate bots.

You could make a good 25mil a day, and rotate shifts. Or, do it 1mil for the most populated times, and 3m for the night shift.

If I can get on after the bot ban (I'm gonna fight to try and move my character back to Hotan later) I'll set up my character at Jangan. Get a lower level trader to pull some light thieves I can easily tank, pull the aggro with a heal and then just stand there looking pretty while death goes on around me.

Allows my charater to do something while I'm at uni! ... until my client crashes anyway. lol

I would definitely donate my body to bot removal, get me pots and I am down until I get on to grind. Which could be over 12 hours.

I might be able to do an auto-click so I can heal[assuming I will get "force" or a cleric]

defiantly a good idea I like it

can this really be done with the hundreds of gold bots? Not that I think this is a bad Idea, it just seems like it would be overwelming for months and months. Would they give up? I am going to make a cleric so I could help buff for a couple of hours... good luck everyone.

I'm confused, why won't they start up in Constantinople? Are there less creatures to kill there or something? Or is it that those would be much harder to kill considering only high lvl wiz thieves and hunters seem to do AOE attacks that would kill them. (re-reading thread to see if I missed something maybe :/ )

OT: This is a great idea, kill them before they can even get started and they'll spend all the money that they happen to pick up on new pots since they'll keep dropping them and using them as the lightning thieves kill em.

Most of the goldbots in the game are run by player bots. They'll run 20-30 goldbots each to give them the money to buy their high level gear. The thing about Venus is, it doesn't have high level SoX so the player bots haven't spent a lot on leet gear. They really aren't that invested in the server. It's one thing to give up the char you've botted for 4 months but can easily reproduce on another server. It's another thing to give up your SoSun 64+9 Glaive. Many of the player bots left last week to join Hera.

Setting up a bot trap isn't hard. Keeping it running consistently will be the hard part. And the high levels will get pissy and try and kill the trappers. If we keep at it and just make it a part of our SRO routine, the player bots will eventually leave. And with each one goes 20-30 goldbots.



The goldbots? I think the cracked bot and the paid clientless bot are both for chinese only and those are the ones the playerbots use to farm gold. Not totally sure though.

I've got several members of Asylum eager to start setting traps. I never thought I'd say this but hopefully the bot ban won't be too soon so we can all level and enjoy the killing.

For those that don't know what a bot trap is or looks like (for those that do, just skip over this post, this is informative for people that don't know; even though it may seem obvious to us):

Hunters and Thieves working together (works best if you get the trader to get the light thief, then drop cargo and get the thief to get a light thief) so that even if someone does try to come and ruin it you have a chance to keep it going.


In this first one a thief tried to come over and kill the other thieves lighting hunter, but we killed him prior to killing it (hence "noob" comment for not understanding what we were doing; yes he got rezzed, don't whine)

The reason they wouldn't start Euro goldbots is because of the pot delay. They want to keep their bots alive to ensure maximum income.

With the traps, if we get some thieves about Lv40 or so, basically high enough to kill the low level goldbots in one hit, I'll dedicate my character to the cause; purely to sit there tanking the thieves until my client crashes.

i'm up for a good old fashioned bot trap

Dammit, I dunno when I'd be able to set one up though... I was right; my character is in Jangan. >___> Curse my shitty computer.

Put my name on the list. Hope i can get to 80 before it happen.

I can set a trap from ~11:00 pm EST to ~2:30 the next day, thanks to school. Although, spring break next week it will be shorter, probably ~12 hours.

Okay, analysing our plan, I found some flows... first of all, wats a cleintless bot? lol... sounds like a human being without a body..

Okay, here's wot I wanna say...

There are 3 gates in jangan... plus, there are innocent ppl who needs to get out... plus, who knows? maybe some noob would offer them gold to teleport to dw and get an alternative root.. maybe they dedicate other chars to sell/drop them potions from jangan... the idea of putting the city under siege is weird... lol... it's a good idea, I'm willing to participate as long as i can leave my char on without dying..

I'm going to try and organize some seminars tonight on how to run a bot trap. Goober, if you can lead, that would be great. I'd like to get everyone some experience running them before the ban takes effect.

Also, timing will be critical. The ban list may not be posted until after bots are banned. Hell, they may be banning goldbots right now. I'd like people to keep an eye out for a reduction of goldbots in DW in the meantime. The ban may not be for 2 or 3 weeks. Who knows? But if we're ready to go when it does happen, it'll be that much more effective.

Anglo, I think my following post answers some questions. Just copy/pasted from my post on SRA:

I don't think that we need to have the trap going 24/7. The point is to keep the bots in Jangan and have them waste their gold on pots. Deleveling from getting killed will keep the bots in Jangan. Dropping their pots stacks from getting killed will force them to buy more.

I think most botters want their goldbots at level 30+ before they move to DW to save on pots. Most of the goldbots at Chakji Workers are high 20s and 30s. If a bot is in a loop from res point to gate, how long will it take to delevel him from 20 to 0, lets say? Likewise, how long will it take the goldbot to get to 30? Also, it should be considered how much gold can be farmed in a certain amount of time vs. how much is lost due to rebuying dropped pots and gear. If we find the right balance, the trap only needs to be up long enough to reset the bots until the next trap.

In the beginning, it would be great to have the trap up and running as much as possible along with roving bands of trappers flushing out any that escaped. I expect us to be able to gauge success quickly.

Edit: a clientless bot is able to login to SRO without the client running. Because the client isn't running, you can run many more without affecting your proc speed. There are a few companies that sell botcards for clientless bots. Most of the playerbots are too cheap and lazy to pay for a clientless goldbot so they just run 20 or 30 hacked bot clients on their computer. So what if they get hacked? They'll only lose as much money as was on the bot after the last transfer.

How funny would it be for some stupid botter to login to his goldbot after letting it run for a week and see it has 0 gold, level 1 and naked cuz he dropped or deleved out of his gear. The little shit would be all "WTF HAX!!!"

Yeah, I thought the clientless bot worked like you said... we need to get it implemented in Avalon's union fast... especially for ppl with shitty computers like me and Necrobat LOL...

Uh, count me in this trap thingy too..

Can anyone tell me the gates that gold bots come out of most in Jangan? Or are they well-spread. Might give it a try in Pacific (organizing it), although I've heard a credible rumour that JM gets paid a small % from gold sales (not to mention they benefit from the server traffic), so I hope they won't "fix" it.

Organizing this combined with making money from the taxes of Jangan from the gold bots may really help Avalon. As a side-goal in Pacific, I guess I want to keep money away from VietE_4ever lol.

The center arch of the west gate at Jangan is most common right now, probably because the bots are going to den and ferries. All of them go about 50 feet past gate and then some follow one path and others go another path. I'm not sure if it will be the same when the bots restart at level 1.

If this is like the last bot ban, it will be several weeks before the list is released and the bots actually banned so there isn't too much hurry. I'm going to put together a bot trap guide but unfortunately, it's difficult to try out because there are so few bots in Jangan anymore. We'll need a rover to go and kill bots in the den and ferries while another sets the trap at the gate. That way we don't need to wait for them to repot before cycling them through kills.

Well I remember opening day in Pacific gold bots were all ksing each other outside south gate on mangyangs. West gate and east gate weren't much better, but unfortunately I was grinding south gate to meet up with _SunTzu_ and there were a million gold bots there, so I think that'll be a major spot... gonna post a link to this thread in Pacific section if that's ok with ya.

Absolutely. The only problem with older servers is the high level player bots are going to come and protect their goldbots. The nice thing about Venus is that the player bots are pretty weak and will get curbstomped when they show up in their thief outfits trying to kill the trader/trapper.