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 Post subject: Crumpets [Insufficient proof]
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:45 am 
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This guy posts in the 0x33 forums under the name scones, Now many of you already know that Scones is one of his many Chars. And it's quite obvious it's him, but I still need more proof on it. (His sig Nick is: Scones / Jason12 or w.e BTW) .. I'll post these screenies of posts from Scones, but more proof will be appreciated.

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Note: You can see in the last pic that a poster refers Scones as Crumpets, yet Scones seems to have no objection to that.

Well.. I've done my good deed for the day.. Peace

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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This thread is full of win (if that's our Crumpets, that is).
But get more proof, really...

Edit: However, I must admit I believe Crumpets wouldn't be so dumb to use that kind of name, give the guy some credit he's not 10.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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May as well ban you TOO... reasons are as follows...
-The last picture shows "1 member and 0 guests viewing" which would make you that member.
-I would say that constitutes you as a bot supporter.
-Why not show your name on the forum to prove who you are on that site anyhow?



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This guy posts in the 0x33 forums under the name scones, Now many of you already know that Scones is one of his many Chars. And it's quite obvious it's him, but I still need more proof on it. (His sig Nick is: Scones / Jason12 or w.e BTW) .. I'll post these screenies of posts from Scones, but more proof will be appreciated.

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Note: You can see in the last pic that a poster refers Scones as Crumpets, yet Scones seems to have no objection to that.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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So people at 0x33 aren't changing usernames to match those here right? I mean, if I wanted to get people banned from SRF, like moderators for example, that's probably something I would consider doing. I'm actually expecting to see names of people who haven't played SRO in years to start popping up on those forums asking about bots.

Fair question.

Also a reason this forum crap should not be considered solid proof of botting.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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I once made an account on a botting website to post this huge "What do you get out of botting.. seriously" thread, which got deleted shortly after due to heavy flaming toward botters and also because of pointing out several true facts about how moronic botting is.
Am I not legit now?
Don't accuse people like that, aruin.

Also, don't quote pictures, it's unnecesary.



Edit that, Reise... we don't want to give haters ideas to get nice, legit people banned...

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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I will accuse anyone I care to with legitmate question.
Please do not try to "mentor" me, I do not need your guidence.
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So people at 0x33 aren't changing usernames to match those here right? I mean, if I wanted to get people banned from SRF, like moderators for example, that's probably something I would consider doing. I'm actually expecting to see names of people who haven't played SRO in years to start popping up on those forums asking about bots.

Fair question.

Also a reason this forum crap should not be considered solid proof of botting.

You know this will happen now that it is posted.


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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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May as well ban you TOO... reasons are as follows...
-The last picture shows "1 member and 0 guests viewing" which would make you that member.
-I would say that constitutes you as a bot supporter.
-Why not show your name on the forum to prove who you are on that site anyhow?


Yes I did sign up to that forum... under the name gecko123 if you're interested. It has no posts and it hardly views the forum. I believe you can't view the forum without having an account. Just because it's a forum that discusses bots and 3rd party programs, it doesn't mean that's all that forum discusses. When I went to that forum I went there for an information source, just like I did with this forum, but hey.. I can't prove that can I? If you want to accuse me of botting then make a new thread about it and try to gather sufficient evidence.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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aruin wrote:
I will accuse anyone I care to with legitmate question.
Please do not try to "mentor" me, I do not need your guidence.
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Fine then, get proofs or get warned.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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If you can prove that the accounts are by the same person, by showing that they've used the same Email to register for SRF and for the bot forum, AND he has made probot/bot admission statements there, it suffices as proof. Could you possibly check his account details to see if anything matches SRFs?

Let's let SG take a look at the screenshots once he's up. In the meanwhile, if you can gather the information I've mentioned above, it will be appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Fair enough, you seem to have defended yourself.

As for gathering evidence...I really don't care.


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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Then get the hell out of here if all you're going to do is flaming and accusing people.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Oh no, I'm not denying that was me T_T Good find. But here's the catch : >

I have been sro / 0x /gzp etc etc etc free since December 1st 07. Anything that 'I' do in game is not me and smart people know it : > Cross reference Ip's used to post *KA-Ching*

You can't register for oh ex anymore, and you know damn well *JayLost* from Olympus has jacked my account before in the past .. hell even talked to Cw / SG explaining trying to get it back somehow ^^,


Bring-It-Oooon.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Casey613 wrote:
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Actually I can have my own opinion and make my own decisions, unlike some in this forum.


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If you can prove that the accounts are by the same person, by showing that they've used the same Email to register for SRF and for the bot forum, AND he has made probot/bot admission statements there, it suffices as proof. Could you possibly check his account details to see if anything matches SRFs?

Let's let SG take a look at the screenshots once he's up. In the meanwhile, if you can gather the information I've mentioned above, it will be appreciated.



here is my suggestion.
http://www.0x33.org
without an account you can view the member list.
"gecko123" does not exist on that list... why?


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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Oh no, I'm not denying that was me T_T Good find. But here's the catch : >

I have been sro / 0x /gzp etc etc etc free since December 1st 07. Anything that 'I' do in game is not me and smart people know it : > Cross reference Ip's used to post *KA-Ching*

You can't register for oh ex anymore, and you know damn well *JayLost* from Olympus has jacked my account before in the past .. hell even talked to Cw / SG explaining trying to get it back somehow ^^,


Bring-It-Oooon.



new years resolution?

why is it that most ppl who get caught say, ive been hacked, or was hacked, or something along the lines of, i quit, i dont own the account...

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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new years resolution?

why is it that most ppl who get caught say, ive been hacked, or was hacked, or something along the lines of, i quit, i dont own the account...

:roll:


Actually YES lol, it was a new years resolution : >

And If SG remember's he can confirm my account was jacked on 0x, because someone used my accoutn to post picutres of some random boon humping a wall. And I did not want to be banz0rd for something a wannabe Sconsey did ^^ : >

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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May as well ban you TOO... reasons are as follows...
-The last picture shows "1 member and 0 guests viewing" which would make you that member.
-I would say that constitutes you as a bot supporter.
-Why not show your name on the forum to prove who you are on that site anyhow?



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This guy posts in the 0x33 forums under the name scones, Now many of you already know that Scones is one of his many Chars. And it's quite obvious it's him, but I still need more proof on it. (His sig Nick is: Scones / Jason12 or w.e BTW) .. I'll post these screenies of posts from Scones, but more proof will be appreciated.

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Note: You can see in the last pic that a poster refers Scones as Crumpets, yet Scones seems to have no objection to that.

Well.. I've done my good deed for the day.. Peace


i didn't know it was a crime to join a forum anymore even if its a "botting forum" which 0x33 is not anyway. there are well respected mods\admins from 0x33 on srf and they arent banned, just because ur an 0x33 member doesnt make u a botter, 0x33 is a great community just like srf is.


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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Edit that, Reise... we don't want to give haters ideas to get nice, legit people banned...


aruin wrote:
You know this will happen now that it is posted.


Nah I'm going to leave it, so people will know what's up. Also so admins will pay more attention to random accusations that show some forum screenshot as proof.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Reise wrote:
Casey613 wrote:
Edit that, Reise... we don't want to give haters ideas to get nice, legit people banned...


aruin wrote:
You know this will happen now that it is posted.


Nah I'm going to leave it, so people will know what's up. Also so admins will pay more attention to random accusations that show some forum screenshot as proof.


u cant register on 0x33 anymore so, you cant make new names so, u cant make mod names and try to get them banned


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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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This forum is SPUNKTASTIC!! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Mage Pker wrote:
Reise wrote:
Casey613 wrote:
Edit that, Reise... we don't want to give haters ideas to get nice, legit people banned...


aruin wrote:
You know this will happen now that it is posted.


Nah I'm going to leave it, so people will know what's up. Also so admins will pay more attention to random accusations that show some forum screenshot as proof.


u cant register on 0x33 anymore so, you cant make new names so, u cant make mod names and try to get them banned


i think he means you can change the name of an existing account that has already talked about botting on there in the past

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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Oh no, I'm not denying that was me T_T Good find. But here's the catch : >

I have been sro / 0x /gzp etc etc etc free since December 1st 07. Anything that 'I' do in game is not me and smart people know it : > Cross reference Ip's used to post *KA-Ching*

You can't register for oh ex anymore, and you know damn well *JayLost* from Olympus has jacked my account before in the past .. hell even talked to Cw / SG explaining trying to get it back somehow ^^,


Bring-It-Oooon.


I'm a little mixed up by this post, You don't deny you're Scones.. Well I respect that.
But you deny being Scones in the game, claiming it was jacked, and you have no control on w.e the hacker does to it. But does that mean they jacked your forum account too? Your forum account you don't seem to deny, yet in the second screenshot you can cleary see you saying "I have used it in the past... ", Sorry if I'm false with my accusations here, but could you clear me up on that abit :)


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here is my suggestion.
http://www.0x33.org
without an account you can view the member list.
"gecko123" does not exist on that list... why?


The memberlist doesn't show names with 0 posts.. so that would mean gecko123 isn't on the memberlist, and why does it matter? What else can I do to prove that I'm gecko123 lol...

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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I'm a little mixed up by this post, You don't deny you're Scones.. Well I respect that.
But you deny being Scones in the game, claiming it was jacked, and you have no control on w.e the hacker does to it. But does that mean they jacked your forum account too? Your forum account you don't seem to deny, yet in the second screenshot you can cleary see you saying "I have used it in the past... ", Sorry if I'm false with my accusations here, but could you clear me up on that abit :)





Oh no understabdable I'll explain further ^^

Scones = My lvl 80 pretty shoddy bower lol >.< Hes been un-active now for 2-3 months. Unsure exactly ... anyways. When 0x had their older style forums or older version whatever it was I made and used .. and posted with the name Scones. THen some forum update happened in which people had to reactivate their accounts via mail or something.

This is when *JayLost* from Olympus somehow .. managed to re-make my account. Don't know exactly how but it was resolved With CW in IRC. Anyways I made a few pk2 threads, and somehow he managed to get on changing the dload links to some random skat shit or I dunno :s.

But since then he's been on and off .. and I can't change pass for some reason. Since I don't play sro anymore I don't really care what happens to my accounts / names / rep etc etc.

I understand where your coming from tho : >

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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*takes it all in*

so thats your character name, your nickname, and your account but its not you....

and BTW if you stopped play Dec 1st why would you post that topic about the War you were in Between Lunarcry and RoyalS on Dec 23.....the way you talk in the topic makes it sound like you were pretty logged in the game and having fun to me....

we all know thats crumpets he even admitted it was him, why is he not banned yet....im sorry but isn't the "Thats my name and info but i didn't have control at the time" excuse getting kinda old...it didn't save ito...

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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*takes it all in*

so thats your character name, your nickname, and your account but its not you....

and BTW if you stopped play Dec 1st why would you post that topic about the War you were in Between Lunarcry and RoyalS on Dec 23.....the way you talk in the topic makes it sound like you were pretty logged in the game and having fun to me....

we all know thats crumpets he even admitted it was him, why is he not banned yet....im sorry but isn't the "Thats my name and info but i didn't have control at the time" excuse getting kinda old...it didn't save ito...



Hey homo,

I know you have some vendetta vs me, but yeah I logged in that day with someone else's char to war. Problem ?

Have a problem doubting ? Go kindly pm Clockwork on 0x33 and ask him. I'm sure he'll tell you the same : >

Oh and hi Biggin_ AKA GEF_Slayer who got banned on these forums.

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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i like how homo is the only "insult" you have against me like stating homosexuality is offensive, maybe to someone whose a bit more insecure but nah i think that kind of remark is a bit homophobic and worthy of at least a warning....we'll let the mods decide....

and my point is theres no point in saying "It wasn't me on that guy" since you were still very much active in the SRO community. Saying its not me playing since i dont play anymore but logging into other ppls characters to participate in a War that you helped instigate sends mixed messages. You were an active member of the SRO community up to at least Dec23 probably longer and as such your responsible for your accounts, simple as that Plus

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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i like how homo is the only "insult" you have against me like stating homosexuality is offensive, maybe to someone whose a bit more insecure but nah i think that kind of remark is a bit homophobic and worthy of at least a warning....we'll let the mods decide....

and my point is theres no point in saying "It wasn't me on that guy" since you were still very much active in the SRO community. Saying its not me playing since i dont play anymore but logging into other ppls characters to participate in a War that you helped instigate sends mixed messages. You were an active member of the SRO community up to at least Dec23 probably longer and as such your responsible for your accounts, simple as that Plus


No I was not, sorry : > People that know me .. 2 mods included know I have gone and have been Not on Sro for nearly 3 months now. Except for that war and a fort war .. but can't recall if that was before or after 1st Dec. Yeah I logged into someone else's character? And? I wanted to play in a war and iGod had a chracter spare .... is that a crime ?

Yeah and I use homo, because if I was to vent myself in words I would like to use I'd be banned for discrimination and foul language.

Capiche bro ?

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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*takes it all in*

so thats your character name, your nickname, and your account but its not you....

and BTW if you stopped play Dec 1st why would you post that topic about the War you were in Between Lunarcry and RoyalS on Dec 23.....the way you talk in the topic makes it sound like you were pretty logged in the game and having fun to me....

we all know thats crumpets he even admitted it was him, why is he not banned yet....im sorry but isn't the "Thats my name and info but i didn't have control at the time" excuse getting kinda old...it didn't save ito...



Hey homo,

I know you have some vendetta vs me, but yeah I logged in that day with someone else's char to war. Problem ?

Have a problem doubting ? Go kindly pm Clockwork on 0x33 and ask him. I'm sure he'll tell you the same : >

Oh and hi Biggin_ AKA GEF_Slayer who got banned on these forums.


I can confirm anything and everything Crumps said, he was on 'my' wizard for the war :)


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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:02 pm 
crumpets, i know you're annoyed and trying to defend youself, but try not to
personally attack others. that includes things like "hey homo," even if Xemnas
doesn't really care about it that much.

just try keep it nice, both the accusers and the defenders.
if someone is guilty, we will find out about it eventually.


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Pff.. Let Crumpets alone. He did nothing wrong and I will stand up for him any time. I know him long enough and good enough. Leave him alone :)

This is said as ME, Deacon. Not as a MOD!

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 Post subject: Re: Crumpets
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crumpets, i know you're annoyed and trying to defend youself, but try not to
personally attack others. that includes things like "hey homo," even if Xemnas
doesn't really care about it that much.

just try keep it nice, both the accusers and the defenders.
if someone is guilty, we will find out about it eventually.


Gay is ok or no? :d


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