SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

wtf are you all RPG fighting game playing nerds??

LOL storyline!!!!
ahaha this isnt some devil may cry shit, its fuckin super smash bros.
get real.

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

The story line for SSB has always been this: Keep moving forward and kicking ass.

If I had a Wii I would get Brawl no doubt. But I don't have a Wii.

CrimsonNuker · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 13791 **Location:**

Reise wrote:

The story line for SSB has always been this: Keep moving forward and kicking ass.

If I had a Wii I would get Brawl no doubt. But I don't have a Wii.

Lol its impossible to get one now a days, they only order like 10 Wiis for stock and then they are gone in like 10 seconds after stores open....at least for where i live >__>

Manowar · **Posted:** Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:48 am

For those of you asking the "storyline" of brawl is the Subspace Emissary campaign. I didn't understand too much of the story from what I seen but the story is pretty much about an evil organization called the subspace emissary that is trying to take over the land of smash and warp the world of smash into another dimension. In the story characters get together to defeat the subspace emissary. The story is probably much more interesting then in the past installments of smash however it seems more like an interesting add on then a selling point for the game because for me the fun of the game comes in vs mode, especially when playing vs friends. FYI I didn't actually played the SSE campaign instead I used the Lip's stick method and did Vs matches to unlock all the chars because it was much faster.

Also this game isn't melee 2.0 because the differences between melee and brawl are pretty big. Characters in brawl float more, recovery is easier, DI has been improved, much of the melee techniques have been taken out including l cancel and wave dash. Pretty much unless you're using marth you can't play the same way you would play in melee.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:53 pm

The story is actually pretty deep especially since none of the characters talk, they just kinda grunt and laugh and use sound effects but if you want to know its basically this

SPOILERS****

SmashBrosWiki wrote:

Note: Because it is possible to take more than one path in Adventure Mode, there are sometimes two characters' names, divided by slashes when describing a scenario. (i.e.; Peach/Zelda) This means that if you take the first path, the scenario involves the first character, and vice versa.

The story begins in a stadium, where Peach and Zelda are watching a friendly match between Mario and Kirby. The two fight with fierce intensity, and during the battle, a cutscene shows Pit observing the battle as well from a mystical fountain. Mario/Kirby wins, and Kirby/Mario turns into a trophy. Mario/Kirby returns Kirby/Mario back to normal, but when he does, the sky suddenly darkens and the Halberd appears out of nowhere. The Halberd shoots out little spores, which come together to make the Primid, the main force of the Subspace Army. Mario and Kirby, joined by Peach and Zelda, defeat the Primids. After they do, the leader of the Army, the Ancient Minister, appears and drops a Subspace Bomb, which is activated by two R.O.B.s, and is set to detonate in 2 minutes. Mario races to disarm the bomb, but is blasted out the stadium by a cannonball. Petey Piranha then captures the two princesses and attacks Kirby.

After Kirby defeats Petey, he explodes, and the cages the princesses were in break. Kirby and Peach/Zelda land safely only to watch Wario appear with a huge gun. Wario turns to see a weakened Zelda/Peach, and aims the gun at her. A black arrow comes out of the gun and hits her, turning her into a trophy. Wario grabs the trophy and runs out of the stadium. Kirby and Peach/Zelda run after him, but Kirby sees the bomb at 5 seconds before detonation, and takes Peach/Zelda with him on the Warp Star escapes from the Stadium as the bomb consumes the arena in Subspace. Pit sees the bomb detonate, and is ordered by Palutena to go and stop the Subspace Army. Pit takes his bow and descends into the clouds.

Pit flies down to a cloud, but sees the Halberd approaching. The Halberd creates more Primids to attack Pit, who splits his bow into swords and fights off the Primids. After fighting through several different types of Primid, Pit looks out and sees Mario's trophy and reawakens him. The two team up and go to fight the Subspace Army. The two heroes travel through the clouds chasing the Halberd, but realize that they aren't fast enough. Then, they see an Arwing chase the Halberd.

Meanwhile, Kirby and Peach/Zelda are still flying on the Warp Star when the Halberd comes up behind them. The Star hits the ship and the two land on it. They then go on to explore the ship, but they are interrupted by the ship battle between the Arwing and the Halberd. The Arwing is shot down and knocks over Peach/Zelda and Kirby as it falls out of the sky. The two manage to land safely on a cloud and are confronted by the Subspace Army. The two begin to descend to solid ground as they fight through the Primid. After defeating a larger member of the Subspace Army, a Greap, the two continue their journey.

In a jungle, a car with a load of bananas piloted by a Koopa Troopa drives at insane speeds escaping the woods. Donkey Kong is then seen beating up some Goombas and other Koopa Troopas. When he goes onto a ledge and sees the Koopa's car, a Goomba fires three Bullet Bills at him. Diddy Kong jumps out of nowhere and shoots down the Bullet Bills with his Peanut Popguns, and the two Kongs chase the car. After facing some giant Goombas and other Koopa Troopas, the two find the stash of bananas, but are confronted by Bowser. Bowser pulls out the gun that Wario used and points it at Diddy. Donkey Kong realizes what will happen and punches Diddy away, only to be turned into a trophy by Bowser. Bowser laughs evily and carries his prize with him.

Meanwhile, Mario and Pit continue their journey through a meadow-like area. The two finally find the Ancient Minister, who is carrying a Subspace Bomb. They both try to hit him, but miss. The Ancient Minister continues flying as Mario and Pit continue the chase.

Meanwhile, Diddy is coming from the jungle into a lake, where a Rayquaza attacks an Arwing that crashed and grabs Diddy. Fox McCloud emerges from the Arwing and saves Diddy. The two then team up to face Rayquaza and defeat it. Diddy then drags Fox with him back into the jungle. After facing more of Bowser's troops and exploring more places in the jungle, the two confront a clone of Bowser made by Shadow Bugs. After defeating him, the real Bowser fires another shot from the trophy gun at them. Fox grabs Diddy and jumps off a cliff to save them both.

The story then goes to an abandoned town, where Lucas is attacked by the King P. Statue and a group of Primids. Lucas runs from the statue, but is eventually trapped by a root in the ground, but is saved by Ness, who destroys the statue with PK Flash, revealing Pokey Minch in a giant spider mech. After defeating Pokey, the two are attacked by Wario. Wario fires the trophy gun at Ness, who dodges every shot. Wario finally aims the gun at Lucas, but Ness gets in the way and gets hit. Lucas, frightened, runs away from Wario, who now has the Ness trophy, and laughs evily while Lucas runs. Lucas runs into the Pokémon Trainer and his Pokémon Squirtle, who takes him with him to find two other Pokémon.

Elsewhere, Marth is seen watching some R.O.B.s detonate another Subspace Bomb and races to find out how to stop it, but his castle is besieged by the Subspace Army. Marth fights his way through swarm after swarm of the Army until he finally gets to the grounds outside of the castle, where he watches the area of Subspace slowly expand. Meta Knight then flies in and attacks Marth, and the two duel briefly, but they are interupted by Primids and team up to stop them. After stopping the wave of Primids, they see the Ancient Minister. The two desperately attempt to stop him, but fail. Finally, Ike attacks with Aether and cuts the bomb from under the Minister and severs his floating chair, sending him whirling off into the sky. The three then teem up to chase down the Ancient Minister and stop the Subspace Army.

On a remote road, Luigi is passed by a Waddle Dee and then another. Thinking they are enemies, he gets into a cowardly fighting stance. He is attacked from behind by King Dedede and turned into a trophy. Wario passes by and sees the Luigi trophy and tries to grab it, but the Waddle Dees ambush him while Dedede steals his trophy car and his trophies.

Meanwhile, in the Lost Woods, Link pulls out the Master Sword. He leaves, but passes by a sleeping Yoshi. The Halberd passes over the two and immediately drops Primids, awakening Yoshi and putting the two into a team. The two heroes beat back the Subspace Army as they try to escape from the Lost Woods and chase down the Halberd.

On a secret island, Samus Aran is shown sneaking into a base in her Zero Suit. After getting by some R.O.B.s, she enters a room where she sees Pikachu in some kind of torture device that is being used to clone him and breaks it with her Paralyzer Gun. This sets off an alarm and many R.O.B.s start to attack. The two travel through the base searching for something. After fighting their way past the guards, they enter a control room, where Samus sees her Power Suit...

In a pass, Kirby sees King Dedede go by in the trophy car and chases after it, leaving Peach/Zelda behind. Peach/Zelda turns, but is transformed into a trophy by Bowser. The clone of Bowser comes up to the trophy and consumes it, creating a clone of her. The clone tries to shoot Mario/Link and Pit/Yoshi, who are running by, with the trophy gun, but it is destroyed when Link/Pit slices it in half. The Peach/Zelda clone then faces Link/Mario and Yoshi/Pit and is defeated.

Mario/Link looks up and sees Link/Mario and Yoshi/Pit standing by the clone's trophy, got angry and attacks Link/Mario. Link and Yoshi/Mario and Pit then face Mario and Pit/Link and Yoshi, defeating them. King Dedede then grabs Mario and Pit/Link and Yoshi's trophies with an arm from the car, but the arm is cut in half by Kirby, who revives Mario and Pit/Link and Yoshi as well. Pit/Link then destroys the car by shooting an arrow at it, and King Dedede takes the remaining trophies and runs. The five heroes team up and chase King Dedede down.

Meanwhile, in a control room, Ganondorf orders Bowser to track down Dedede and gives him the coordinates to his location.

At a remote mountain, Lucas and the Trainer see a Charizard fly into a cave and follow it. The two journey through some ruins and an active lava pit until they confront Wario by the cave's entrance. Seeing Wario, Lucas grows bolder and joins the Pokemon Trainer's Sqirtle to fight Wario and defeat him, which turns him into a trophy.

Mario, Pit, Link, Kirby, and Yoshi go into Dedede's hiding place, which was trashed when Bowser and his men attacked it. They see a hole in the wall and go inside of it. When they get out of the building, Mario sees Bowser and attempts to punch him. Bowser holds up Peach's trophy and Mario stops. Pit fires an arrow that Bowser nearly dodges, and a Dedede cap comes off of Peach's trophy. Bowser then gets in his floating bowl and heads back to the Halberd. Meanwhile, the Ancient Minister sets up a bomb outside of the building, and Ganondorf is shown receiving orders from the Master Hand via TV screen, though seems to display a desire to overthrow him as well.

Pokemon Trainer and Lucas continue their trek into the cave, fighting off the Subspace Army as they go. After descending through floor after floor of enemies, the Trainer sees an Ivysaur trophy and captures it. The two then continue to procede deeper into the cave, where they come face-to-face with Charizard. Lucas, Squirtle, and Ivysaur defeat Charizard, and the Trainer captures him.

Marth, Ike, and Meta Knight fight a giant robot that they had apparently been tracking in a desert. They defeat it, but it instead falls into a cave, the one where Lucas and the Trainer are in. They defeat the robot, but it turns that the robot had a Subspace Bomb used as a self-destruct and takes both of the characters to the skies. Lucas, now gaining his courage, uses PK Thunder to detach the robot's arm that was holding them and they both start falling presumably to their doom until Meta Knight catches them. Behind them the Subspace Bomb detonates, sucking up the Wario trophy that was left behind into Subspace.

The Ancient Minister shows up in the same desert, but in a different region, where he is confronted by Mario's group. After fleeing from them, the group gives chase. After going through a wide area of the desert, the group catches up to the Minister, who starts firing shots at the group. A R.O.B. grabs the bomb underneath the Minister and gets some others to activate it. Despite the group's best efforts, the bomb is still activated. As the Minister flies away, a R.O.B. looks up at him and waves goodbye. The bomb detonates, but the group just barely manages to escape as they run as quickly as they can away from it.

Meanwhile back in the forest, Fox and Diddy have recovered from their jump and start fleeing from Bowser. Along the way out they face the Subspace Army as well as Bowser's troops. The two finally get on a path that leads out of the jungle, but Diddy is shot by Bowser's Trophy Gun and has his trophy consumed by Shadowbugs, which creates a clone of him. Fox appears to be outnumbered when Falco Lombardi flies in in his Arwing and jumps out. He kicks the gun out of Bowser's hands and destroys it with his two blasters. Bowser then hops in his flying bowl and flees, but the clone of Diddy grows larger. Fox revives Diddy, and the three face the evil clone. After defeating the clone, Diddy drags Falco back onto the path with him and Fox. The three start treading through a waterfall as they face more troops. On the lake, they see a transport with DK's trophy on it. In order to get on the transport, Falco calls his Arwing.

Samus and Pikachu continue their run through the base to retrieve Samus's Power Suit, encountering more R.O.B.s and Subsapce Army guards. They finally enter the room holding the suit, but are confronted by two Shadow Bug clones of the Suit. After defeating the clones, Samus puts her Suit back on, which alerts the guards. Samus uses her Suit's weapons to quickly blow through all the guards, and the two try to find the leader of the R.O.B.s so that they can shut down the base. The two go as far as a dead end, where they are attacked by Ridley, who grabs Samus and slams her into the wall and slams and then drags her along it. Pikachu blasts Ridley with a lightning bolt, causing him to drop Samus (despite what happened in the scene, Samus doesn't have any damage when the fight starts). Ridley then battles the duo. After defeating the monster, the two exit out of a secret door, but they see some R.O.B.s carrying Subspace Bombs out of a part of the base, so Pikachu and Samus decide to enter it.

On another part of the island, a giant R.O.B. is harassing Captain Olimar and a group of Pikmin when it is knocked down by Captain Falcon, accidentally taking several Pikmin with him. The two captains decide to team up and escape the R.O.B.s, traveling through some old ruins of buildings, but are attacked by regular-sized R.O.B.s as they attempt to run. They make it to a ledge where they see the transport carrying DK's trophy being attacked by Falco's Arwing, which drops off Diddy onto it, who intern frees DK. Captain falcon grabs Olimar and jumps onto the transport, where they are attacked by more Primids. They finally defeat the Primids as the ship prepares to enter the base, giving them the perfect chance to slip in...

Back in the desert, Meta Knight sees the Halberd engaging in a battle with Great Fox, and he takes off to get get on the ship, and meets the Ice Climbers on his way up the mountain. The three continue the hike together, but are slowed down by hordes of Primids. Once they get to the top, they encounter Lucario, who challenges Meta Knight to a fight. Whoever wins revives the loser (the two of them then shake hands in respect) just as the Halberd attempts to knock the heroes off the mountain by ramming into it. The Ice Climbers fall off, but Meta Knight and Lucario jump onto the ship.

Back at the base of the mountain, the Ice Climbers meet up with Marth, Ike, Lucas, and Pokemon Trainer. This group splits up when a large group of Primids attack, but luckily Mario's group jumps down to help out. After a long fight, the two teams defeat the Subspace Army group.

Meanwhile, Snake appears out of a cardboard box in the Halberd (his box was also seen on it briefly much earlier) and continues sneaking around in it. After fighting off several Primids, Snake hears Meta Knight and Lucario coming and hides in a box. Lucario senses him and blows his cover, to Snake's surpise. He then senses a group of Primids coming towards them, so the three team up to stop them. The three make their way into a room that has Zelda and Peach's trophies in cages. Shadowbugs then come from the ceiling and create clones of them to fight. After the clones are defeated, the princesses are freed, and Snake tells them to stay while he keeps looking around.

The door opens, and Sheik and Peach race out onto the open side of the Halberd, having to fight a fierce wind to stay on. They also have to face a large number of guards as well. After a long journey, the two get onto the front deck of the ship. Fox then flies his Arwing in and engages the Halberd again. After Fox aims his guns towards Peach, Sheik teleports onto Fox's Arwing and punches a hole in it. After landing back on the deck, the two prepare to fight, but are stopped by Peach, who offers each of them a cup of tea. Fox is stunned, but realizes that Sheik and Peach aren't his enemies.

Meanwhile, Lucario, Snake, and Meta Knight fight the Mr. Game and Watches and send them onto the front deck, where they turn into Shadow Bugs, then into a giant monster. Snake and Lucario join Peach, Sheik, and Fox, and Falco jumps into the fight as well. The heroes fight hard against the monster and finally defeat it. The Shadowbugs melt away to reveal a Mr. Game and Watch trophy. Peach awakens him, and Mr. Game and Watch joins the group, and is entranced by Peach's parasol. Meta Knight, who wasn't at the fight, regains control of the Halberd.

Back at the island base, Samus and Pikachu set off alarms as they race through the facility. They come across a huge amount of guards as they fight to find the source of the bombs. They reach the last room and confront the Ancient Minister and the entire R.O.B. Squad. The Ancient Minister hangs his head as if he is sad, and Samus and Pikachu slowly relent...

Captain Falcon, Captain Olimar, DK, and Diddy continue their infiltration of the base, blowing through R.O.B. guards. They got to a door that DK easily busted through, where the group met Samus and Pikachu. As they enter, a projection of Ganondorf appears. He orders the R.O.B.s to grab all of the Subspace Bombs off of their assembly lines and activate them. The Ancient Minister defiantly gets in their way and orders them to stop, not wanting to lose more of his men. Ganondorf tells them to ignore the Minister and keep going. The Minister desperately tries to stop the R.O.B.s, but Ganondorf orders them to attack the Minister. His robotic body ignites, and the R.O.B.s begin activating the bombs. Ganondorf orders some Auroros to distract the heroes. Despite the attack, the heroes try to stop the R.O.B.s from detonating the bombs. Suddenly, the Ancient Minister destroys all the Auroros, and his clothes burn off to reveal that he, himself, is a R.O.B.! The heroes, along with R.O.B. (or Robot), fight off the Subspace Army guards Ganondorf sends after them. They defeat the guards, and with a few minutes remaining on the bombs, Captain Falcon calls his ship, the Falcon Flyer and has everyone pile into it. However, as they try to leave, Meta Ridley attacks them again. Putting the ship on auto-pilot, the team gets on the top of the ship and faces him. After defeating him, the ship leaves the island as the Subspace area consumes the whole island. Captain Falcon's ship and the Halberd meet with the heroes that are still in the desert.

Out of the giant sphere of Subspace, a giant cannon comes out. The cannon shoots a bomb out, that instantly covers an area in Subspace. At the helm of the cannon is Ganondorf and Bowser, who see the Halberd approaching. At Ganondorf's order, hundreds of turrets pop out and start firing. The Halberd dodges several shots, but is eventually destroyed. However, Captain Falcon's ship, Captain Olimar's ship, Samus's ship, and Fox's Arwing come out of it. The turrets start firing again, but the smaller ships dodge them all. Kirby appears out of the sky on a Dragoon and flies it through the cannon, destroying it. Ganondorf and Bowser go back into the Subspace, followed by the four ships. The combined group of heroes then travel through the Subspace area together, facing an army of Primids and the other Subspace Army types standing in their way.

Back with Bowser and Ganondorf, Ganondorf is ordered to shoot Bowser with a Trophy Gun. Ganondorf kicks the Bowser trophy out of the way and goes up to the edge of a ledge. He proceeds to spread his arms from his body. Master Hand appears from the darkness. But it turns out that he is controlled by yellow strings, which are being held by a being known as Taboo. Ganondorf jumps up towards Taboo to attack him but is smacked back by a dark attack of his. Ganondorf's trophy flies back and hits Master Hand, who's strings break. Master Hand hits the ground next to Ganondorf's trophy. He flies back up to attack Taboo, but he unleashes a blue shield, which knocks out Master Hand. Everyone runs over to check on him. Taboo then releases another dark attack which consumes everyone, turning them all into trophies.

Meanwhile, back at the abandoned building, the Dedede Caps on Luigi and Ness revive them. They then revive King Dedede and team up. They see an expanding Subspace sphere and jump into it. Along the way into the Subspace, they come across the trophies of the defeated heroes and grab them as they move along. When the three approach the staircase leading to Taboo, where they see the fallen Master Hand and Bowser's trophy. King Dedede awakens Bowser, who immediately attacks him. After a short fight, King Dedede reawakes Bowser again, and when he tries to attack, King Dedede just flicks him in the nose. Bowser then turns and stares at the Master Hand.

Meanwhile, Kirby awakens. He spits out a Dedede Cap and stares at it. He then travels through the Subspace area alone, facing a horde of Subspace guards appearing from the sky. Kirby later comes up to the same staricase and sees Ganondorf's trophy. Bowser races by and starts brutally beating up the trophy before throwing it aside. King Dedede then appears and gives Kirby a big hug. King Dedede then drags Kirby with him.

Link and Zelda then appear by Ganondorf's trophy and decide to reawaken him. Ganondorf wakes up and rubs his head as if he had a headache, and Link points to the staircase. He and Zelda then start walking up it. Ganondorf creates a dark sphere around his hand and then walks up it as well. King Dedede is shown being attacked by Wario, but King Dedede, Luigi, and Ness point to the staircase and begin climbing it. Wario drives up the staircase on his motorcycle.

The heroes then journey through a land that isn't covered in Subspace trying to find Taboo. Finally reaching him, Taboo prepares to unleash an attack on the heroes, the same one he used to turn everyone into trophies, but Sonic races through the sky and hits him, interrupting the attack and stopping him from turning anyone into trophies. The heroes then procede to face Taboo in a long battle that challenged all of them. After defeating him, Taboo explodes, the orbs of Subspace recede and all of the worlds they have surrounded are freed. The credits start to roll.

Its a really long lengthy plot involving all but 2 of the characters from the rooster so its huge it took us about 9 hours to beat the whole thing and the final boss was an insane pain in the ass and we were playing on normal, my hats off to anyone who beat that thing on Intense....Even without speaking there are some sad and funny moments that surprise you caus you wouldn't expect to see that kind of thing in this Nintendo game but i was very impressed with the story and i liked it alot more than the normal adventure mode even though classic mode is still available.

Nuklear · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 3272 **Location:**

C'mon people, list friends codes ffs.

Alterran · **Posted:** Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:09 pm

i still perfer super smash bros for 64 system then any other ^_^

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

I'll post my code once my copy gets here today.

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

Alterran wrote:

i still perfer super smash bros for 64 system then any other ^_^

its a classic i remember i got the game shortly after it came out on n64, now if i ever wanna play i just emulate because my n64 is 200 miles away.

If i had a wii i would definatlly get it.

Nuklear · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 3272 **Location:**

FC: 1418-6404-1495

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Nuklear wrote:

C'mon people, list friends codes ffs.

Coming out in the UK June the 6th ¬_¬

so be a long time until i can post my code up here

Manowar · **Posted:** Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:16 pm

FC: 0173-0959-8218

Note: I prefer 1v1 and no items, don't care so much about stage as long as it's relatively balanced.

Nuklear · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 3272 **Location:**

You prefer 1v1 in Smash? O.O The times playing Melee 2v2 with some college buddies were some definite highlights in gaming for me. No biggy, just posting that it might be a day or so before I go online. Playing a couple lvls in SE have showed me that I'm extremely rusty.
Anyone have a good Brawl site resource?

Manowar · **Posted:** Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:45 pm

Nuklear wrote:

You prefer 1v1 in Smash? O.O The times playing Melee 2v2 with some college buddies were some definite highlights in gaming for me. No biggy, just posting that it might be a day or so before I go online. Playing a couple lvls in SE have showed me that I'm extremely rusty.
Anyone have a good Brawl site resource?

Well the ffa/2v2 stuff is pretty fun and me and my friends did it a lot in melee but I still find 1v1 to be more fun because it requires more skill than ffa.

As for a brawl resource try the smash boards: http://smashboards.com/index.php?

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

FC: 1891-0871-2987

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:14 am

you like playing 1vs1? thats so weird for a party game, i only do 1vs1 when i want to prove im better than someone and no items when i don't feel like dealing with extra stuff but i can't stand ppl who b1tch about items like they aren't a valid part of the game. Throwing and using items correctly is an important part of the series and if you haven't mastered that you've got no room to complain imo. Not saying thats how you feel.

Manowar · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:41 am

XemnasXD wrote:

you like playing 1vs1? thats so weird for a party game, i only do 1vs1 when i want to prove im better than someone and no items when i don't feel like dealing with extra stuff but i can't stand ppl who b1tch about items like they aren't a valid part of the game. Throwing and using items correctly is an important part of the series and if you haven't mastered that you've got no room to complain imo. Not saying thats how you feel.

Well I really don't mind if someone I'm facing uses items since it usually gives me an advantage anyways because I can usually grab items faster than whoever I'm playing against (ie air dodge and dash attacks grab items). I still prefer items off to take out the luck factor (I prefer to see how someone can do with their character not the one who gets the hammer spawned right next to them).

Also I find 1v1 to be more fun because it requires more skill as often someone can simply camp in FFA or spam a single move because people are comboing others. In the case of some of my friends all you need to do in FFA is just C stick forward smash the entire game to do well enough, which is especially true with characters like marth and fox/falco.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:49 am

i use marth :oops:

and c-stick is my bible....still even against skilled players im pretty tough to beat, when C-stick fails the counter and his B combo more than make up for it...

Manowar · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:12 am

XemnasXD wrote:

i use marth :oops:

and c-stick is my bible....still even against skilled players im pretty tough to beat, when C-stick fails the counter and his B combo more than make up for it...

Got a friend who does the same thing with marth in melee but since my main was link in melee I could play the projectile game on him to counter his range, which makes him easy to C stick with. There's nothing wrong w/ C stick itself since it allows you to do stuff like down smash faster then you could without it but I find those who are too attached to it have a hard time varying up their play style versus those who can change up theirs to counter it.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:18 am

Most of the characters i like are better off using C-stick unless the situation requires more finesse Marth, Lucario, Meta-Knight so far those guys are my favorites. I would've added Ike but he's so damn slow and so damn godly at the same time. The only character i've ever had serious problems fighting was Sheik, in melee she whenever someone used her they'd run circles around me. Who do you use Mano?, i've always played my friends Nintendo games including this one so i'll see if i can convince him to give out his FC to an SRF member though he is one himself.

Manowar · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:26 am

XemnasXD wrote:

Most of the characters i like are better off using C-stick unless the situation requires more finesse Marth, Lucario, Meta-Knight so far those guys are my favorites. I would've added Ike but he's so damn slow and so damn godly at the same time. The only character i've ever had serious problems fighting was Sheik, in melee she whenever someone used her they'd run circles around me. Who do you use Mano?, i've always played my friends Nintendo games including this one so i'll see if i can convince him to give out his FC to an SRF member though he is one himself.

In melee I used Link and Sheik mostly. In brawl I ditched Sheik because of the nerf they gave with her forward air and Link I'm still thinking about since it's harder to combo w/ him due to game mechanics, mostly lack of L cancel. So far I've been playing Wolf the most but I also had fun playing Ike and ZSS but I haven't really decided who to main yet.

Dark Shifty · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1322 **Location:**

Manowar wrote:

In melee I used Link and Sheik mostly. In brawl I ditched Sheik because of the nerf they gave with her forward air and Link I'm still thinking about since it's harder to combo w/ him due to game mechanics, mostly lack of L cancel. So far I've been playing Wolf the most but I also had fun playing Ike and ZSS but I haven't really decided who to main yet.

*cough* ic ftw! now here goes my rant about a couple of the chars in ssbb.

haha i love the ic in 1v1, they have the best chain combo available imo, if you know how to use them correctly... but ya, no l cancel and no wave dash = me sad

but life goes on. i tryed out metaknight and he is a great char but not enough finishing moves, he seems more of an excellent teammate in 2v2 or something. pit is the most annoying char in the game by far tho. with his spinning sword move, holy fu.ck! stop fu.cking spamming that... gg on noobs for that. marth is still kickass as ever, new b is ok but i liked old one better. sonic is way too fast for my liking, especially his final smash special thing. pokemon trainer is pretty sweet, charzard imo is useless, its all bout the squirtle power and a lil bit of ivysor for just fu.cking around with.

one more thing that i fu.cking hate now is the down a while in the air stall. its not instant like its supposed to be... i hate that.

well its 5am and i have to wake up in 4 hours so im done ranting about it now. comments? questions? concerns?

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:49 pm

i love charizard he's such a beast squirtles great too but i think ivysaur sucks....never thought i'd be talking about pokemon again...

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Lvl 9 cpus keep beating me. They're very hard. Much harder than when I played Mano...

mike2007 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1672 **Location:**

got my copy now.
friend code is 3609-0784-6797.
will b too busy unlocking everything to play vs matches for a couple days though.

EDIT:friend code corrected

†erminal · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1138 **Location:**

In melee i loved Roy <3

Nuklear · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 3272 **Location:**

mike2005 wrote:

3609-9784-6797.

Doesn't work.

Dystopia · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 2317 **Location:**

I played it yesterday, the game blows.

mike2007 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1672 **Location:**

Nuklear wrote:

mike2005 wrote:

3609-9784-6797.

Doesn't work.

ill recheck it l8r. gotta grind now.

Manowar · **Posted:** Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:31 am

mike2005 wrote:

got my copy now.
friend code is 3609-9784-6797.
will b too busy unlocking everything to play vs matches for a couple days though.

If you don't have all the characters yet just do this:

Special melee > Stamina mode > Flower on > Set CPU at 1 hp. Do 450 games and you have unlocked all the characters (takes less than 2 hours).

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