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 Post subject: Christian Reviews of MGS4, GTAIV, Bioshock
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Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Komani, PS3)
6.12.2008: (Note: I have not played this game since it is rated "M" and isn't allowed on the Fellowship U campus, so I am basing this mini-review on Secular media reports.) In Metal Gear Solid 4, you play the role of Snake, a soldier who uses stealth to sneak around a battlefield on a mission to steal guns from the Patriots (and to choke people from behind). As his name implies, Snake is actually a symbolic agent of Satan, sent into the world to finish what he started in the Garden. Evidence of this symbolism can be seen by Snake's use of an Apple iPod throughout the game (Apple is a notorious promoter of Darwinism and counter-culture). Also, Meryl, who guides Snake via a disembodied voice, uses an Apple Macintosh computer (I think Meryl is supposed to represent Satan himself, but all the symbolism is very confusing since it was written by a Japanese guy). This game promotes drug use (Snake is addicted to cigarettes and the HDD installation process features an 8-minute video of Snake teaching players how to smoke), eugenics through human cloning (Snake was the product of a project to clone "super soldiers"), disrespect of Authority (Snake's main enemy in the game are the Patriots, who represent the Christian founders of our nation), and Materialistic Determinacy with an absence of Free Will (every game in the MGS series is a remake of the first, only with a different Snake clone, the theory being that by putting the clones through the same missions, they will develop into the same person). MGS4 was designed to train those who will be left behind after the Rapture to serve in the Antichrist's military forces. As such, it has no value for the Christian gamer, who is among the Elect and won't have to deal with that, but it may help the unsaved to know the tactics they will be up against in a post-Rapture world should they choose to join the fight against the Antichrist and secure themselves a place among the Sheep when Christ returns. Therefore, I am giving it ONE CROSS for this slight benefit. †



Grand Theft Auto IV (Rockstar, Xbox 360 & PS3)
5.6.2008: (Note: I have not played this game since it is rated "M" and isn't allowed on the Fellowship U campus, so I am basing this mini-review on Secular media reports.) Grand Theft Auto IV is a game designed to brain-wash players into the Atheist worldview. In it you play Nick, an immigrant recently arrived to Liberty City (a copy of New York City) who is tasked with stealing cars and murdering prostitutes. Nick came from a former Communist country where he was brought up in Godlessness and so he sees no problem stealing and murdering. The game touts its ability to let you "go anywhere and do anything you want", the central philosophy of Atheism. It also teaches how to escape from police, instilling in the player the main motivation behind Atheism: avoidance of authority. The underlying game engine is called "RAGE", which is apt since the game is fueled by anger at God. It also uses something called "Euphoria" which treats humans as "rag dolls" who act only in accordance to physics, which is what Atheistic Materialism teaches. The game series (as the title notes, this is the fourth game) has already resulted in murders in real life. This game has no redeemable qualities. Needless to say, all Christians should avoid this game and pray for the people who made it and their victims (murder victims and gamers of all ages who have played it and have been spiritually scarred). ZERO CROSSES



BioShock (Take-Two, Xbox 360 & Windows)
8.24.2007: (Note: I have not played this game since it is rated "M" and isn't allowed on the Fellowship U campus, so I am basing this mini-review on Secular media reports.) BioShock is a first-person shooter set in Rapture, an underwater city created upon the Atheist philosophies of Ayn Rand and Charles Darwin. In a Darwinian struggle to survive, players must kill small children in order to harvest their "Adam" (a.k.a. "stem cells"), which players use to obtain "plasmids" that cause them to macro-evolve superhuman abilities. The children themselves also kill other people to harvest their Adam, which is the sort of behavior Godless Darwinism teaches young people (I don't think its a coincidence that these children are aided in their killing by large diving-suited beings called "Big Daddies"). There's lots of not-so-subtle anti-Christian imagery used in the game, like how the city name, "Rapture", refers to there being no Christians living there, since they are all up above the water (much like how when the real Rapture comes, we will all be above the Earth) and how players use resources called "Adam" and "Eve" to become genetically degraded by the plasmids making them less human (just like how the Fall, caused by Adam and Eve, brought death, mutations, and carnivores to our world). I'm not sure if this game is supposed to be a cautionary tale about how Atheism and Darwinism destroy society, or a simulator to train its teenage target audience to enjoy living in such a world. Either way, the game is too disturbing to be suitable for Christian audiences. ZERO CROSSES

http://objectiveministries.org/zounds/gaming.html#mgs4 (this is the site it came from but for some reason the link doesn't always work)

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Reviews of MGS4, GTAIV, Bioshock
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OMG, i was laughing so hard my sides hurt like hell :P :D :D :D

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It also uses something called "Euphoria" which treats humans as "rag dolls" who act only in accordance to physics, which is what Atheistic Materialism teaches.




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oh god religion is getting out of hand....
now they give CROSSES to rate as game LOL

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[ ]No, they are not Christian
[ ]No, I like to solve a game on my own
[ ]Only if I can't get past a level
[ ]Yes, but God knows I am a sinner and will forgive me

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PS3 WON!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Reviews of MGS4, GTAIV, Bioshock
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This ridiculous, and it seems almost like an attack on the Christians especially how its not even from a site that has any relation to Christianity.
Securing a place among the 'sheep'? All the reference to Satan, and Darwinism.
Seems to me like an offensive religion joke written in the form of reviews by a Christian, that attempts to degrade our faith in a satirical way.


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Oh i understand what you mean now

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This ridiculous, and it seems almost like an attack on the Christians especially how its not even from a site that has any relation to Christianity.
Securing a place among the 'sheep'? All the reference to Satan, and Darwinism.
Seems to me like an offensive religion joke written in the form of reviews by a Christian, that attempts to degrade our faith in a satirical way.


You would be surprised. There are a lot of Fundamentalist Christians in America. They say things, that at first glance seem like minor comedic spins on religious view points... Then you realize that they're being serious, very serious. That is when you get scared, and back away, back away, easy does it, nice and slow.

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Reviews of MGS4, GTAIV, Bioshock
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Christianity is not about telling people you'd go to hell if you believe in god, or Satans armys.
If you've read the holy bible you'd know that in fact satan isn't in 1/8 of it.
Its about being honest, kind, just being a good person, and also believing in a god.

I don't see how that is so ridiculous to some in society now, I don't know how christianity works in the states. But here the church is a big pillar in the community, they fund schools, charities, and do much community service. Though I do not attend church every Sunday. I've only respect and thanks to the church and god. It seems to me that in America, religion is a big laugh at with all the religion jokes, and christian church stereotypes.


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Fundamentalist Christianity results in people like Bush, but much more zealous, irrational, and ignorant.

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Christianity is not about telling people you'd go to hell if you believe in god, or Satans armys.
If you've read the holy bible you'd know that in fact satan isn't in 1/8 of it.
Its about being honest, kind, just being a good person, and also believing in a god.

I don't see how that is so ridiculous to some in society now, I don't know how christianity works in the states. But here the church is a big pillar in the community, they fund schools, charities, and do much community service. Though I do not attend church every Sunday. I've only respect and thanks to the church and god. It seems to me that in America, religion is a big laugh at with all the religion jokes, and christian church stereotypes.


Now if every American Christian knew this or at least thought like this, we wouldn't have people saying Science, Flight, and Harry Potter are "touched by Satan".

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Oh, my sweet Jesus... :banghead:

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wow...what a bunch of retards

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Whole Point of a review is to "Play the game"

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hahahahah what a bunch of bullshit :D:D

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 Post subject: Re: Christian Reviews of MGS4, GTAIV, Bioshock
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oh this is bullshit, the media always takes a side in whether they like the game or not, Even they don't play it.

I gurantee you if that sissy actually played that game he would be hooked. Who could have thought a story could get people so scared they couln't play a video game... wow..... bible is evil burn it!

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(Snake's main enemy in the game are the Patriots, who represent the Christian founders of our nation)

Wow, too bad the founding father's were not Christian!


http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_F ... igion.html
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The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below. Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not include everyone who could be considered an "American Founding Father." But most of the major figures that people generally think of in this context are included using these criteria, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.

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Episcopalian/Anglican 88 54.7%
Presbyterian 30 18.6%
Congregationalist 27 16.8%
Quaker 7 4.3%
Dutch Reformed/German Reformed 6 3.7%
Lutheran 5 3.1%
Catholic 3 1.9%
Huguenot 3 1.9%
Unitarian 3 1.9%
Methodist 2 1.2%
Calvinist 1 0.6%
TOTAL 204

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Whole Point of a review is to "Play the game"

Same.
No right to critique a game he hasn't even played. Figured the rest would be that if you play video games you will go to hell. That the bible claims video games are a sin and other garbage like that.

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Christianity is not about telling people you'd go to hell if you believe in god, or Satans armys.
If you've read the holy bible you'd know that in fact satan isn't in 1/8 of it.
Its about being honest, kind, just being a good person, and also believing in a god.


I don't see how that is so ridiculous to some in society now, I don't know how christianity works in the states. But here the church is a big pillar in the community, they fund schools, charities, and do much community service. Though I do not attend church every Sunday. I've only respect and thanks to the church and god. It seems to me that in America, religion is a big laugh at with all the religion jokes, and christian church stereotypes.



Thats only the new testament, the old one is all about being punished if you don't obey God.

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Whole Point of a review is to "Play the game"


i agree that you shouldn't be able to review a game that you did not play. I thought of Ned Flanders when i seen this guys photo(and read the reviews)
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he gave this game 4 crosses (the highest rating he seems to give)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfV2OzEHwg

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He must have went to Fellowship U.

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(Snake's main enemy in the game are the Patriots, who represent the Christian founders of our nation)

Wow, too bad the founding father's were not Christian!


http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_F ... igion.html
http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html wrote:
The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below. Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not include everyone who could be considered an "American Founding Father." But most of the major figures that people generally think of in this context are included using these criteria, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.

Religious Affiliation of U.S. Founding Fathers # of Founding Fathers
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Episcopalian/Anglican: 88
    54.7%
Presbyterian: 30
    18.6%
Congregationalist: 27
    16.8%
Quaker: 7
    4.3%
Dutch Reformed/German Reformed: 6
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Lutheran: 5
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Catholic: 3
    1.9%
Huguenot: 3
    1.9%
Unitarian: 3
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Methodist: 2
    1.2%
Calvinist: 1
    0.6%
TOTAL 204
:roll: Huh?
Did you just say, "Wow, too bad the founding father's were not Christian!" then go on to disprove your statement?

Patrick Henry wrote:
“It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ.”
- Patrick Henry, American Patriot

US Constitution wrote:
“Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord [i.e. Jesus Christ] one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names...”
- Article VII, US Constitution
Did you even read what you quoted?

According to your source, of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 39 were signers of the US Constitution; 2 of the 55 were Roman Catholic, the others were Protestant. There were zero 'non-Christian' delegates. That's not atypical of the general population at that time but in fact representative of it.

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Did you just say, "Wow, too bad the founding father's were not Christian!" then go on to disprove your statement?



I lol'd when I read it, but i'm much too kind to point it out :( .

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Did you just say, "Wow, too bad the founding father's were not Christian!" then go on to disprove your statement?
I lol'd when I read it, but i'm much too kind to point it out :( .

Did you notice the math in the quote doesn't add up?
It was quoted correctly, but when I add up the total, it ≠ "Total 204". :shock:
Totaling the percentages also yields 108.7% but that could be due to the founding fathers changing religious views and therefore being counted in multiple categories. Just seemed strange to my jaundiced eye.

More on topic, the idea of a person reviewing a game that they never played is similar to saying, "Although I've never tasted wine and based on the one time that I saw a picture of a grape, my expert opinion is blah, blah, blah..."

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