E3 2008

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Well its that time of the year again and E3 is upon us. The biggest gaming expo and
event in the world is back and it looks to be bigger then ever with some of the most
anticipated games ever.

Official E3 Websites:
http://www.e3expo.com/
http://www.e3insider.com/
http://www.e3.net/

GameSpot E3 website:
http://e3.gamespot.com/?tag=nav-top;e3&navclk=e3

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satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Well day one of E3 is over and theres the big 3's press conferences.

Microsoft

Nintendo

Sony

BlackFox898 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:46 am

it all looks so good!!!
M.A.G.
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The Mobius · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 126 **Location:**

BlackFox898 wrote:

it all looks so good!!!
M.A.G.
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I think I just came.

Necrobat · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:39 pm

Oh god, that looks brilliant. ._.

Draquish · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 6423 **Location:** ____

256 players? I smell lagg.

OR, an awesome FPS.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Sony and Microsoft stepped up their game. Especially Microsoft, Sony went after core gamers with a slight ting of casual.

Microsoft focused on Casuals but kept up the surprises and successfully targeted the core gamer.

Nintendo, well They're doing their casual "here to make you smile" thing. :roll:

I was most satisfied with Microsoft and Sony, although Microsoft made it seem like they were ripping some Nintendo Ideas.

Draquish · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 6423 **Location:** ____

Lol @ Sony and "Buzz".

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

That new Nintendo Wii add on looks awesome, if it really is that accurate its going
to make the games much much better.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Microsoft delivered as usual. Sony's was pretty good.

Nintendo failed big time.

MrJoey · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:34 pm

Someone give a summary of what all the companies announced? I'm not gonna watch over an hour of video for each company.

BlackFox898 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:46 pm

MrJoey wrote:

Someone give a summary of what all the companies announced? I'm not gonna watch over an hour of video for each company.

srsly? each companies announced so much. each one of the conferences was 2hours i think and they didn't shut up about there new games the whole time. i watched the Sony one and part of the Microsoft one. Sony new:PS3: new better content coming to online(movies tv, etc.),God of War 3 announced trailer shown, M.A.G. promising new title posted a few above^,killzone 2 game play looks promising and suppose to come out this year. PSP: will have a r+c psp, God OF war psp, etc.,force unleashed version of the game for PSP only, nothing very good or new for the psp either then those player packs. PS2: not much -_- Yakuza 2 and a new bundle pack for $149.

Xbox: Halo wars, FFXII(think that it) is going exclusive to xbox now(not ps3 anymore), talked about how people can make songs on GH4 when it comes out and share songs with people, also talked about rockband 2 a lot, got bored and stopped watching xbox press conference.

Nintendo: didn't see it yet

EDIT: WTF IS THAT Da_Realest?

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Some poor guy is trying to play the drums in Wii Music or some crap musical game. I forgot. This sums up Nintendo's press conference.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Final Fantasy isn't going exclusive to xbox. Isn't it multi-platform now?

BlackFox898 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:03 pm

Barotix wrote:

Final Fantasy isn't going exclusive to xbox. Isn't it multi-platform now?

from what i understood yes its exclusive xbox now

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Da_Realest wrote:

Some poor guy is trying to play the drums in Wii Music or some crap musical game. I forgot. This sums up Nintendo's press conference.

actually it was 100% better then the Sony conference, and hes not trying to play the
drums he was...and am sorry if you think a game like rock band is crap...what is
guitar hero crap now as well?

to sum up Nintendo's conference, they have a new add on for the Wii remote coming out
with their new Wii Sports Resort game which improves the motion sensor capabilities
a lot to the point it can mimic wrist & arm actions in real time.
Also the Wii Fit Board is going to be used for other games, a snowboarding game was
shown as the main example to what it can do and how it works with other games.

also about that gif, nice to see that Sony fanboys hard at work isint it

Disconn3cted · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3293 **Location:** WV, USA

BlackFox898 wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Final Fantasy isn't going exclusive to xbox. Isn't it multi-platform now?

from what i understood yes its exclusive xbox now

um no, final fantasy xiii is made to be a series of games and square already said long ago that they will be released on multiple platforms. Final fantasy XIII versus is still ps3 only I think and the 360 is getting its own part of the story.

either way this makes it much harder for me to decide what to buy, I don't want to play 360 frat boy games but now the only ps3 exclusive that I care about is MGS4. Maybe I'll just get a wii :/

RuYi · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 7145 **Location:** Done.

Da_Realest wrote:

LOL!!!

Anyone's interest got sparked by the trailers for the new games?

The Mobius · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 126 **Location:**

BlackFox898 wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Final Fantasy isn't going exclusive to xbox. Isn't it multi-platform now?

from what i understood yes its exclusive xbox now

No, it's just not exclusive to PS3 anymore. So pretty much PS3 will still get it, just 360 now gets it as well.

BlackFox898 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:42 pm

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Final Fantasy XIII (ファイナルファンタジーXIII, Fainaru Fantajī Sātīn?) is an upcoming console role-playing game developed and published by Square Enix for PlayStation 3 in Japan, North America and Europe, and announced at E3 2008 for the Xbox 360[2] in North America and Europe.

from Wiki, guess it is for both consoles...they really should get there story straight at e3, tards

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

satman83 wrote:

actually it was 100% better then the Sony conference, and hes not trying to play the
drums he was...and am sorry if you think a game like rock band is crap...what is
guitar hero crap now as well?

to sum up Nintendo's conference, they have a new add on for the Wii remote coming out
with their new Wii Sports Resort game which improves the motion sensor capabilities
a lot to the point it can mimic wrist & arm actions in real time.
Also the Wii Fit Board is going to be used for other games, a snowboarding game was
shown as the main example to what it can do and how it works with other games.

also about that gif, nice to see that Sony fanboys hard at work isint it

Sony showed tons of games, you know, something Nintendo showed very little of. Nintendo didn't even mention WiiWare or VC content. What did Sony show? A great Resistance 2 trailer, LittleBigPlanet, a new Ratchet&Clank game for 15 dollars, GTTV, a new PSP bundle, a video download service, DC Online Universe, Infamous, God of War 3, MAG, etc. I'll just list the games shown in Sony's conference and Nintendo's conference.

PLAYSTATION 3
BUZZ!(TM) Quiz TV
God of War(R)3
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Heavy Rain
inFamous
Killzone(TM) 2
LittleBigPlanet(TM)
MAG
Motorstorm(TM): Pacific Rift
NBA '09 The Inside
Resistance 2(TM)
SingStar (TM) Volume 2
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation

PSP
BUZZ! (TM) Master Quiz
LocoRoco(TM)2
NBA '09 The Inside
Patapon(TM)2
Resistance: Retribution (TM)
Super Stardust(TM) Portable

PSN
Fat Princess
Crash Commando
Flower
PAIN
PixelJunk(TM) Eden
Ragdoll Kung Fu(TM)

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Wii
Shawn White Snowboarding
Animal Crossing: City Folk
Star Wars: Clone Wars
Rayman Raving Rabbids: TV Party
Call of Duty: World at War
Wii Sports Resort
Wii Music

DS
Cooking Navi
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars
Guitar Hero: On Tour: Decades
Pokemon Rangers: Shadow of Alma
Guitar Hero: On Tour: Decades

Thats it...

Its funny because on just about all major gaming websites, Nintendo's press conference is ranked last. If you're saying Nintendo's press conference was better than Sony's, you're either a Nintendo fanboy or a casual gamer. Really, there is no comparison.

Wii Music is nothing like Rock Band or Guitar Hero. I'll find some quotes.

It’s more apparent that the simulated activity of playing a musical instrument will be dumbed-down more than the swinging of a tennis racket was.

The casuals will love it, but I question the long-term playability value for the rest of us.

I think Wii Music will be really compelling for the casuals (and worth the two extra years of development time the game has had). Just not sure of the appeal to existing music-game fans.

Wii Music wasn't impressive. We joined with two Nintendo PR reps to create a band, and we all struggled through Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and other standards. Mostly we waved the Wiimotes around and produced what sounded like drunken versions of the songs, but since there is no score, you can't fail.

For the moment, Wii Music appears to be on track to make a huge splash, but rhythm fans will likely need not apply—for all its flash, Wii Music is a toy just like Nintendo's Electroplankton (NDS), but one whose hardware advantages don't seem as well implemented as they could have been.

But most of the instruments seem to involve nothing more than repeating the same gesture in what you feel is the "correct" rhythm. With no skill or challenge involved -- and no discernable objectives -- we're not sure how long even the most desperate of music lovers who lack musical talent will stay interested.

We've seen that in the guitar, maracas, drums, piano, and saxophone already, and each is more a "baby's first music toy" than an actual game. Sometimes the casual-centric designs go too far even for the casuals. Wii Music may be the biggest proof of that thus far.

All of those quotes are from different gaming websites. Please don't try to compare quality games that have depth and require skill to that piece of crap known as Wii Music.

Wii MotionPlus... Yea, something that should have been implemented in the beginning. Basically Nintendo is saying they failed so here's a peripheral fix for it.

Wii Sports:Resort.... Nothing more than a glorified tech demo. Only casual gamers will love it. Everyone else will get bored of it in a few days or a week or so at most.

Snowboarding game? Those graphics are crap. I think I seen better graphics on the PS2 or Dreamcast.

The conference was a failure.

On a side note, I don't own a PS3 or a 360. I own a Wii.

EDIT: Even Yahoo didn't like the conference.

In contrast, it was hard to dodge the grumbling on the way out of the Nintendo event. Where were the classic franchises we all know and love? Where, for that matter, was Mario? Nintendo fans had to make do with a new Animal Crossing title, and an oh-so-vague mention of a Grand Theft Auto game on the DS handheld. Accessories like the MotionPlus controller plug-in and the WiiSpeak microphone are all very well, but don’t we have enough bits of plastic cluttering up our houses already?

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Well this is what happens now..until the new consoles come out either Microsoft, Sony
or Nintendo will have any really big announcements to make...also no offence but you
do sound like an fanboy or self

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Wii MotionPlus... Yea, something that should have been implemented in the beginning. Basically Nintendo is saying they failed so here's a peripheral fix for it.

lol...yea so if they add anything onto it it means that they failed? so i guess Sony
and Microsoft failed when they realize new versions of their consoles or controllers?
Yea using ur logic i guess Microsoft failed the last 3 years by realising a new 60G
consoles, sucks to be them doesn't it

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Sat you're being irrational and building a straw man. Everyone, except fanboys ,think nintendo's performance, at E3, was subpar when compared to MS or Sony.

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Barotix wrote:

Sat you're being irrational and building a straw man. Everyone, except fanboys ,think nintendo's performance, at E3, was subpar when compared to MS or Sony.

ok sorry...but what you mean Straw man?

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Ghostbusters
Game written by the team behind the movies and staring the films cast

Prince of Persia
4th in the series

Halo Wars CO-OP
Take on the Covenant in Halo Wars' co-op mode.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

satman83 wrote:

Well this is what happens now..until the new consoles come out either Microsoft, Sony
or Nintendo will have any really big announcements to make...also no offence but you
do sound like an fanboy or self

Yea, I'm a real fanboy when I own a Wii over the others...

Oh, I see you only repsoned to those certain parts of my post so I'm just going to assume I was right about everything else.

The others didnt need big announcements. All they had to do was provide more information about great games that we know are coming. They did that. Neither one of them presented anything mind blowing but the fans' expecations were met for the most part. However, you should have seen the chaos of many Wii specific message boards around the net when the conference was over. It was hilarious. lol

Oh, I think MAG(256 multiplayer) is considered to be a big annoucement for Sony. FFXIII no longer being an exclusive is probably considered to be a big annoucement for Microsoft. Wii Motion is possibly considered the big annoucement for Nintendo.

satman83 wrote:

lol...yea so if they add anything onto it it means that they failed? so i guess Sony
and Microsoft failed when they realize new versions of their consoles or controllers?
Yea using ur logic i guess Microsoft failed the last 3 years by realising a new 60G
consoles, sucks to be them doesn't it

No, but Nintendo's solution to everything seems to be make a peripheral... Also, there is no comparsion between what the others have done. Controllers were redesigned based on consumer feedback and so was the new model. Also, I'm also pretty sure that they are optional.

However, when the Wii was released, the Wii was said to be able to pick up precise movements and 1:1 gameplay would now be possbile. So far not one game is capable of 1:1 recognition. So, Nintendo's solution to fix the problem seems to be another peripheral. It seems future games will require this peripheral. From an IGN interview with Miyamoto:

"There's a lot of potential things we can look at with that," Miyamoto said of MotionPlus. "We haven't finalized anything at this point, but my general assumption is that probably having the Wii MotionPlus coupled with the Wii remote is going to become a much better standard for us to work with."

In my opinion, Nintendo is just milking the Wii for all its worth. Good thing I don't buy most of the games produced by Nintendo.

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

MAG is going to fail miserably.

RuYi · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 7145 **Location:** Done.

Reise wrote:

MAG is going to fail miserably.

Mind if I ask why? I don't disagree, or claim you're wrong, but I saw the trailer and I thought the idea was pretty good. I don't know a thing about it, so care to tell me how it can fail? Lag or something? Or people being jerks and screwing it up? I'm curious.

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

I never recall seeing any instance where it's worked before so I dunno why it would work now. 256 players is a lot of people. Only game I know that comes close is for PC and it tops out around 150. Even then the lag is pretty nuts.

BlackFox898 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:31 pm

M.A.G. looks great and with the PS3's amazing hardware it should be a breeze playing it. Though having a team that might be completely stupid could be an obstacle to overcome, You could fill there spaces with bots, or since its squad based sorta you could make it so that person would die err something if he did not fill out his objective. Punishments in other words. I think it will succeed relax.

EDIT: to Reise and average PC has a duo core perhaps, a PS3 have 7 cores each 3.2GHz(pretty sure) i don't know about the rest of it but if anything can do it it would be a PS3.

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