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 Post subject: Needing Advices from ROGUES (and Clerics & Bards). >=
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:23 pm 
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Alright here's the low down this devious planed i made. =]
Yesterday or two days ago, I was in the SRF vent channel.
And a "nameless" dood told me that a level 70+ rogue and take down Lord Yarkan on his own.
I was like.. O_O "wtf, mate"
So this made me thinking.
I have two other cousin that are practically addicted to this game..
So why not all three of us make Rogues?
We'd all theif together so when a high level trader/hunter rolls by
We'd be invisible and all of us shoot him at once.
No way some one can survive a burage of arrows/daggers

And that's why I came here.
We're all going to be rogues and are gonna get sp power leveled.
Each one of us is gonna get about.. 500k sp. (it'll only take a week or two)
We'll get both duel daggers and Xbow depending on the moment. =X
Then after that we're gonna get powerleveled up to 64+
So we've planned out how we get enough sp and how we are gonna level to a certain extent.

***[ What I'm not sure about ]***
That just leaves out sub masteries. =X
We're thinking about.. 2 bards and 1 cleric for our sub trees.
So.. Yeah xD
1 Cleric for the hp healing + buffs + ress
2 Bards for the mp healing + buffs + speed

This is just an outline of what I'm trying.. xD
But.. I need some advices. =X
Should we have 2 bards and 1 cleric
Or 2 clerics and 1 bard?
I barely know what which one does.. =X
And what should we get in the BARD and CLERIC skills?
I know for cleric.. We should get the ress, the str,int increase buff, and ermm the group heals. =]
-does the group heal heal yourself?
The Bards, we meed ermm.. the walking one.. mp heal.. and iuno what else a bard does. xD

So whoever could help me out, it would be the shiznits. =]


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I will say 1 sub cleric, the other 2 sub bard.


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If you are going to play together a lot of time don't all go rogue ...

you can be :
rouge/cleric
rogue/bard
cleric/wizard

That a lot of cleric buffs will go when he switch weapon so you need a cleric as a main build .. also full str clerics (rouge/cleric) will not heal great HP .. it will be low .. so make full int cleric/wizard .. wizard for doing heavy damge + AOE + effects when you need and for invisible and telport ..

Or you can be :
Warrior/cleric
rouge/bard
cleric/wizard

But if you all should go rogue be :
rouge/bard
rouge/cleric
rouge/warrior

And the last think may be the best .. when you meet too high lvl enemy (say +25 lvl) switch to cleric and buff .. other switch to warrior and buff .. the remaining rogue with warrior & cleric buff can kill +20 ~ +25 lvl full str build with a warrior (to stun / dull / KD / KB )

I just try to say different perfect combo .. but yours still good ..
And try to not think a lot about what you will do .. just make what you love

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That’s a nice idea, prity much what your guild did, but 500 k sp is to much, id say 350k is enough we farmed 250 - 270 k sp and i just have enough fuly farmed at 80. Good luck to you, an best 3 combo.

Warrior/cleric
Rogue/bard
Wiz/cleric

Warrior buffs rogue and wiz also have healing division on. rogue can do damage and the wiz can do damage and also switch and heal when needed. While warrior tanks. Pity much unbeatable. As long warrior never dies with healing division on no one will.


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its depends if you want to play solo sometimes....

for solo characters id say all bards...

for party of 3 rogues id say 2 bards & 1 cleric


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2 bard 1 cleric is best. There are some bard skills that needs 2 bards for them to be activated.

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Hope that 1 cleric doesn't die...

I'd say:
Rogue/Bard
Rogue/Cleric
Warlock/Cleric or C/W

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 Post subject: Re: Needing Advices from ROGUES (and Clerics & Bards). &
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Lust4MiKo wrote:
Alright here's the low down this devious planed i made. =]
Yesterday or two days ago, I was in the SRF vent channel.
And a "nameless" dood told me that a level 70+ rogue and take down Lord Yarkan on his own.
I was like.. O_O "wtf, mate"


Seriously...Why do people exagerate like this? Rouges deal nice damage...but they aren't like people say.

And the only time they deal good damage is when their dmg buff is on...but the buff makes them like paper mages. With the dmg buff off, they deal almost no dmg.

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Seriously...Why do people exagerate like this? Rouges deal nice damage...but they aren't like people say.

And the only time they deal good damage is when their dmg buff is on...but the buff makes them like paper mages. With the dmg buff off, they deal almost no dmg.


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i´d say u get 1 bard and 2 clerics

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BuddahBless wrote:
Lust4MiKo wrote:
Alright here's the low down this devious planed i made. =]
Yesterday or two days ago, I was in the SRF vent channel.
And a "nameless" dood told me that a level 70+ rogue and take down Lord Yarkan on his own.
I was like.. O_O "wtf, mate"


Seriously...Why do people exagerate like this? Rouges deal nice damage...but they aren't like people say.

And the only time they deal good damage is when their dmg buff is on...but the buff makes them like paper mages. With the dmg buff off, they deal almost no dmg.


The guy in fact exagerated a lot, a Rogue alone would get rapped by Yarkan since there would have no one to tank Yarkan and let the rogue alone behind

But grinding with the dmg buff is really easy, it might not be that useful in guild war, but in PVP when using a dagger, stealth, and the dmg buff, you can kill pretty much everyone your level without even crit on first hit, and the fact that the Rogue can buff/debuff quite quickly and when the buff isnt activated, its like a Chinese pure STR def, which can tank quite well.

For that last point i really like the Rogue better than the Wiz.

And dude i think they still make more damage than a glavier without the buff on, they also got crit and they have range.

Do you have played a Rogue at least lv40-50 to say that it's not "like people say"?

Even tho they cant kill Yarkan alone, they still the best unique killers, i think we might see a lot of them killing uniques later on

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Each one of us is gonna get about.. 500k sp. (it'll only take a week or two)


lol good luck in this

as for your question, 2 bards 1 cleric for sure, for the dmg buff which needs 2 bards


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PLease tell me a good reason why in a group of 3 to have 3 bards? I realy dont see any advantage of having 2 bards. you need 1!, speed, its all bards are used for anyway. 2 clerics with healing D on and havong 2 bless spells all the time haveing 45 secounds times 2 with cool down of 3 min, O.o Id profer that then having a usless bard having noise on him self... (Btw talking about subclass of wiz.rogue and warrior)

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