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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:44 pm 
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Witch, if you want to leave the union, fine, we are happy with it. But making a post bashing Avalon and not expecting us to defend ourselves isn't going to happen.

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Wow, I really thought there were people that were my friends on here. I guess I am completely shocked by the things ppl have said about me. Totally and utterly shocked. I have been labled a power lvl'd character, a cry baby, and misquoted in things I have said. And yet I never did anything but treat people fairly and play honestly. I was fair and honest with everyone I came across. I did not hold double standards to anyone. And yet people want to now let me know how much they didn't like me? Wow all I can say is I am stunned. And because I am fair does not make me a bad leader. I never will ks anyone in my guild or union. I don't care if it is a unique or a mangyang. It is not the way I play. It wasn't the fact that it happened once. It wasn't the fact that it happened at all. It was the small tip on a very large iceburg. But that is neither here nor there anymore. I guess I would rather not be in the in crowd. As fast as people have been willing to denounce me, I never was really a part of anything. I love my guild. We support each other. I gave people the option to leave and join Avalon because I cared about them.

I am disgusted and sickened by what people have said about me.

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I am disgusted and sickened by what people have said about me.


I rather felt the same way about what you and your husband just did. You asked for our help when your union fell apart. We helped nurture your guild from a rag tag group of 20 who didnt know how to pt or war to a decent working order.

Then you trot out some silly list of imagined slights and indiscretions that is the most trumped up pile of manure ever. Witch plainly says to people that he was just "using" Avalon to get ahead.

yes, Im sure you are deeply offended.

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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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And yet I never did anything but treat people fairly and play honestly. I was fair and honest with everyone I came across. I did not hold double standards to anyone.


"A double standard refers to the treatment of one classification of people differently than other groups of people. For example, a belief that it is permissible for teenage boys, but not teenage girls, to engage in premarital sex is a double standard."

Yes, calling Avalon "illegitimate" for supporting the creation of a private server, but allowing your members to use no-dc clients is a double standard.

Getting powerleveled by me at the PEGs, EGS, and masks and then condoning me for powerleveling is a double standard.

Stop acting like a damsel in distress, its sickening... WitchHazel has already admitted that the only reason he joined the Avalon union was to use us, you don't have to lie to our faces in the forums. We are willing to accept the fact that WitchHazel has botted on another server, as long as he was legit here. That was FINE with us. But this is too far.

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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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Ha.. and you two said i was just seeking attention for asking to be kicked from your guild. You two are so stuck up each other's asses you dont have a clue whats happening. It was a struggle to even get a response from either of you when talking to you, while i've been online i've never noticed you help a low level. During the time i was in Oddysey all Witch seemed to care about was being the number 1 guild in the server, a few weeks ago i remember you mentioning about leaving Avalon once you had some more high levels so you could have the most power.

Oddysey will now crumble, a union with two members.. husband and wife. A guild can't survive with such stubborn and stuck up leaders. Have fun.


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Wow, Odyssey just got bitchslapped!

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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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wow, that was a bitchslap and a half,


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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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LOL

enough said

LOL at your sig you cocky little megapuppy. You just HAD to publicize that 700 mil offer.... lol. Silly rev :P . You were better off with the same ego and non-leet gears lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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a few weeks ago i remember you mentioning about leaving Avalon once you had some more high levels so you could have the most power.


thx for posting the truth.

wow kewtie... now who is "disgusted and sickened"...

i accept the fact that you used my union, my reputation, and my recruiting threads to have a grab at power. now have the decency to stop lieing to our face... tyvm.

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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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shit >.< legits shouldnt fight eachother, they should fight together

of course legits should fight each other, thats how the game was meant to go

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as I said, I'm stating "my side" of the story. People asked, and there it is. The drama comes from the replies. But Celsius, your point was taken. We will no longer be a bother. I joined BHA for my lower lvl members, not for me. I've done everything in SRO, legal, or not. My on being legit is to support the creators of the game, not steal money from them. Odyssey has some great members, and it's a shame to see a strong legit guild go down because to leaders don't see eye to eye. It's a big loss for the entire legit community.

And just to clarify one thing. I have never been plvld. My char has always participated in the party as a cleric, or a wiz. I didn't sit on my @ss watching my xp grow like fIy, unorth, or anyone else for that matter. I worked hard for where I am.


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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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Funny how flames and drama always comes to Avalon and not the other way around. :roll:

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shit >.< legits shouldnt fight eachother, they should fight together

of course legits should fight each other, thats how the game was meant to go

Foudre you smart cookie 8)

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Waisha wrote:
Funny how flames and drama always comes to Avalon and not the other way around. :roll:


the other way around would be: avalon always comes to flames and drama.

so... your right. :D flames and drama does come to avalon all the time. people love to hate us cuz we are so good. thx for your imput.

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Funny how flames and drama always comes to Avalon and not the other way around. :roll:


Drama always comes to the big names.. like most things in life.


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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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not sure what to think i like odyssey in a whole, but i'm not going to hide it witch a jerk, always has been, cussing me out cause his wife can't bard for shit when i blow my whole mp to keep every one alive and buff at the same time cause no one ever gives the cleric time and with in 15 seconds i can blow my whole mp bar plus the pots wroth healing and buffing.
I'm not going to be a hater , even if i don't like him, i still like many of his members, technically her members it is kewties guild

btw about alex, if he got kicked for agruing with witch, i wish i knew what they were arguing about(lol alex was probally right), and btw i still think it was a bs reason to ban alex from what half the story i heard that he was kicked for arguing with a gm of avalon, even though witch was not technically a gm.

pissed him off and made us loose a high lvl wizzard

sigh dramma is a bitch, i like rivalries but i try to avoid dramma, unless i'm trying to cause the dramma for morale sake

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 Post subject: Re: Odyssey seperates from Avalon
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Asyamura wrote:
ve birsey daha, sende bende Mai'yi cok iyi taniyoruz ve arkadasimizdir, sen nasil boyle konusmasina Mai'yi masa olarak kullanmasina sebep olabilirsin ?


Benim mai hakkında tek bildiğim lvl55e kadar botla kasılan bir char olduğu. Hatta forum.donanimhaber.com daki imzasını hala hatırlıyorum "Char şuan botta, lvl kaç bilmiyorum, eve gelince bakarım." Tam olarak bu şekilde olmasa bile anlatmak istediği şey buydu. Yani maiyi senin kadar iyi tanımıyorum.

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Basini ellerinin arasina koy ve iki dakika dusun, ne kadar nankor bir sekilde davrandigini ve seni yoneten ruhsal hastasinin davranislarina bak.


Başta evet, nankör davrandığımı, hatta egoma yenik düştüğümü düşünüyodum. Ama şu yazdıklarınızdan anladık ki, witch de bende çok haklıyım. Fly hala diyo ki küçük fly ve lemon beni kasmış! Ben hiçbir zaman hiçbir partide boşboş durmadım, bırakıp milletin beni kasmasını izledim. Warrior olarak üzerime düşen görev neyse onu yaptım ve doğru yapmışım ki birçok kişiden ne kadar iyi bir warrior olduğum konusunda tebrikler aldım. Ha bu arada kasma nedir biliyomusun? Açarsın 2 client yada 2 bilgisayardan girersin, bi charınla bufflarını yapar bi köşede oturtturursun (unorthun yaptığı gibi) diğeriyle de milleti partine çağırır (yüksek lvlsınya) kendi charını kasarsın. Bu mini fly içinde geçerli.

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Ama bu salakca yapilan savasin masasi olma cunku buna laik degilsin.


Savaş?? Ne savaşı?? Eğer bana yapılan bir haksızlık sonucu hakkımı aramak savaşsa, tamam!!

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belki Avalonu sevmiyorsun o senin bilecegin birsey.


Bunu sana mai söyledi dimi? Hayır, Avalon'u sevmemek gibi bir olay söz konusu değil. Sadece mai sayesinde Avalon'a karşı antipatim vardı. Ama Avalon sadece bu adamdan ibaret değil diye düşünerek Odyssey'e, yani Avalon'a katılma kararı almıştım.

Son olarak, tebrik ederim, savaşınızı (?) kazandınız. Bizi BHAdan ayrılmak zorunda bıraktığınız için teşekkür ederim..


Sorry to response this guy in turkish but im too lazy now (because of my horrible headache) to translate what I said in english..

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as I said, I'm stating "my side" of the story. People asked, and there it is. The drama comes from the replies. But Celsius, your point was taken. We will no longer be a bother. I joined BHA for my lower lvl members, not for me. I've done everything in SRO, legal, or not. My on being legit is to support the creators of the game, not steal money from them. Odyssey has some great members, and it's a shame to see a strong legit guild go down because to leaders don't see eye to eye. It's a big loss for the entire legit community.


Oh, so supporting non-dc clients and allowing your members to use them is helping out the game creators? Lulz. Im pretty sure they want their $20 for premium back....

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And just to clarify one thing. I have never been plvld. My char has always participated in the party as a cleric, or a wiz. I didn't sit on my @ss watching my xp grow like fIy, unorth, or anyone else for that matter. I worked hard for where I am.


In my powerleveling parties, if ANYONE is just sitting there on a horse, I BAN them. Union or not. You either LURE, HEAL, DANCE, MP, ect. Its not even considered a powerlvl party. Unorthodox spent countless hours LURING masks (magical mobs) to me when I was supposedly "powerleveling". He died more times then ANYONE else in the party, with masks doing 2000 damage each. FIy was always doing a gaurd tambour, or dance.

I taught 75% of the people who I "powerleveled" how to play their chars, or they already knew. Ask Foudre. Ask SXM_Alex. Ask Vindiction.

The ONLY problem I ever had on my parties was with you. I told you to only use healing cycle because it was killing everyone when you lured the aggro away from the tank. Anyone who played in a euro party knows what happens when the mobs fall off the tanks and onto the ints.

The only thing I regret was not being there when SXM_Alex got banned. If I was there, Odyssey would have been gone long before now.

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And just to clarify one thing. I have never been plvld. My char has always participated in the party as a cleric, or a wiz. I didn't sit on my @ss watching my xp grow like fIy, unorth, or anyone else for that matter. I worked hard for where I am.


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And u know what is bullshit? What lemon and zee did!!


so what lemon and I did was bullshit? Even though you ignored me and wouldn't let me explain? I can either explain here and make you feel really stupid or you can answer my pms.

i won't bother commenting on the other stuff, it's a lost cause, pm me Agamotto instead of spreading your misconstrued hate everywhere.

[oh about unortho, he was playing zomfg at the same time, unortho was there buffing, I don't see a problem with that, he worked twice as hard to get where he is, seeing as he had to level his character to 7x and then level his second character to 7x as well while, helping union members level, i believe Odyssey was a part of the union at the time. All those bones and nachal parties that were there a few weeks ago wouldn't have existed if it weren't for him, thought I'd clarify that.]

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lol - keep going, i'm enjoying reading this. all I see is the drama coming from you guys. not myself.


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your the one that caused all this drama, your a drama king, you love it.


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lol - keep going, i'm enjoying reading this. all I see is the drama coming from you guys. not myself.



Your former Union disagreed.

All three of them.

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lol - keep going, i'm enjoying reading this. all I see is the drama coming from you guys. not myself.


^^ i'm just correcting mistakes.

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so what lemon and I did was buIIshit?


Comon zee. I didnt ignore u. I wrote u gonna be the 5th warior in union chat. But what u did was "Oh..u deny me!! Then lets see who gonna party, lets see how I get the ppl in ur party to my party!!"

Maybe u think I should let u till I find a replacement for u. Well...I did this before. But ppl said "OMG, 3rd warrior!!" "OMG..4th warrior" "Well..This pt sux..bye" and they left party...

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so what lemon and I did was buIIshit?


Comon zee. I didnt ignore u. I wrote u gonna be the 5th warior in union chat. But what u did was "Oh..u deny me!! Then lets see who gonna party, lets see how I get the ppl in ur party to my party!!"

Maybe u think I should let u till I find a replacement for u. Well...I did this before. But ppl said "OMG, 3rd warrior!!" "OMG..4th warrior" "Well..This pt sux..bye" and they left party...


you still have alot of bread to eat before you get to the point Zee is so I would say you can shove your reason where you want.

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You know I have a feeling that this thread will surpass "Ask Black" in # of pages pretty soon...

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so what lemon and I did was buIIshit?


Comon zee. I didnt ignore u. I wrote u gonna be the 5th warior in union chat. But what u did was "Oh..u deny me!! Then lets see who gonna party, lets see how I get the ppl in ur party to my party!!"

Maybe u think I should let u till I find a replacement for u. Well...I did this before. But ppl said "OMG, 3rd warrior!!" "OMG..4th warrior" "Well..This pt sux..bye" and they left party...



I was in the party that supposedly got "split up" by Zee and Lemon. 3 people were afk in the safezone, so its not like that party was going anywhere. Zee has every right to switch parties with Lemon. After all, they are BOTH CAPPED, which means that the reason they are partying is solely out of the GOODNESS of their heart. They don't have to help you, and the fact that they do is applauding. Zee and Lemon are two amazing people with really good hearts, i'd rather you flame me then them. They did nothing wrong, unless helping out the union and hanging out with each other is illegal in the 48 states. (Not incuding Alaska+Hawaii :wink: )

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you still have alot of bread to eat before you get to the point Zee is so I would say you can shove your reason where you want.


Sorry asy, but what zee did was that!!

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