nvidia and the 9800GTX

crazy_foo · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1387 **Location:**

Anyone else waiting for the high end 9 series to come out? I mostly am waiting on that so the 8800GTS 512MB will have an insane drop in price, I need to do step up program on evga pretty soon. So I heard it is coming out in March sometime. Hopefully it doesn't get delayed again

So anyone with new info on any nvidia 9 series products post here!

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

PCI-E 2.0 means new motherboard, so no I'm not really waiting for it. Rather just get two 8800's and sli them.

Jantje · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:47 pm

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Although NVIDIA has only announced the 9600GT officially, many specifications on the other cards in the series are known already, and today a leaked roadmap shows when each card will be released.



The first card, the 9600GT was officially announced yesterday but despite this NVIDIA hasn't released much information about the other cards (except for some frequencies and cores).
Today a roadmap (release-dates and prices) was leaked.

The map shows that the top card, the 9800 GX2 will indeed be released on March 11, right after CeBIT 2008, one of the most important computer-expo's in Germany. Many rumours recently said that NVIDIA was going to postpone that card, which will be in direct competition with ATI/AMD's HD3870X2.
In the budget-segment there are the 9600 and 9500 with all their versions which differ in clock speeds and pipelines.

Card    Release-date    Advice price
9800 GX2    March 11    €410
9800 GTX    End of March    €270
9800 GT    April 3    €200
9600 GT    February 21    €120
9600 GS    May    -
9500 GT    June    -
9500 GS    July    -

Click to Enlarge In other news the first commercial version of the 9800 GX2 was spotted. Manufacturer MSI has christened their card the N9800GX2-M2D1G but the clock speeds differ from initial leaked information, so it's likely to be an overclocked version. Speeds were known to be 600/1500/2000MHz for the core, the memory and the shaders but on the picture it shows otherwise.

Click to Enlarge Several websites reported a price of about €440 and €525 for the version with 1024MB GDDR3 memory. ATI's opposite number, the HD3870X2 is less expensive at about €350. Though there are no test results known for the card, many people expect it won't be that shocking, but of course we do! 

Source: http://clanbase.ggl.com/news.php?nid=280521

Midori · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3425 **Location:**

i've heard it's not much better than the 8800

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

I think the name of the game is memory capacity rather than clock frequencies and such this time.

pr0klobster · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 1427 **Location:**

I'm looking at the 8800GS at the moment, it's easily within my budget and beats the snot out of my 7800GT. 9600GT looks ok but almost impossible to find. Plus I heard oc'ing is a bit more difficult...although there might be unlocks on the 9x series.

The 9800GTX is the "new" architecture though, G92 is 8800GS too.

Have to see how it shakes out.

Sharp324 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 4383 **Location:**

Reise wrote:

PCI-E 2.0 means new motherboard, so no I'm not really waiting for it. Rather just get two 8800's and sli them.

Not really, 2.0 cards work in 1.0 or 1.1 whichever you want to call it.

The 8800GT is still a awesome card, still better than the GTS (less the GTS is the newer G92). But personally don't want to spend $450 on a graphics card. The 9 series may bring the price down for some of the cards but it will mostly bring the price down on NVIDIA flagship high end cards, not the mid-high level too much, but it will definitely bring them down.

and yeah the freq wont be as important, aiming for on the onboard memory now, since most games love the 512MB. But soon then will love the 1 gig cards when they come.

MrJoey · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:00 pm

Sharp324 wrote:

Reise wrote:

PCI-E 2.0 means new motherboard, so no I'm not really waiting for it. Rather just get two 8800's and sli them.

Not really, 2.0 cards work in 1.0 or 1.1 whichever you want to call it.

The 8800GT is still a awesome card, still better than the GTS (less the GTS is the newer G92). But personally don't want to spend $450 on a graphics card. The 9 series may bring the price down for some of the cards but it will mostly bring the price down on NVIDIA flagship high end cards, not the mid-high level too much, but it will definitely bring them down.

and yeah the freq wont be as important, aiming for on the onboard memory now, since most games love the 512MB. But soon then will love the 1 gig cards when they come.

Need PCI 2.0 to take full advantage of the card though.

crazy_foo · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1387 **Location:**

well at this time even the fastest cards like 8800 Ultra don't use the full 2.5GB/s bandwidth or w/e so wit the 9 series the PCI Express 2.0 will do nothing for it but for future cards it will play a big role. But for now the difference will be minimal or none. I also have an evga GeForce 8800GT 512MB and it does perform pretty well. I can step up to a new card before April 21st or so cause they give u 90 days. I'm really hoping either a 9800GT will be out by then or the 8800GTS 512MB will drop to like $300 or so on the official evga site cause you can only step up from buying from there

It's March 11th today and I see no signs of the 9800GX2

Sharp324 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 4383 **Location:**

MrJoey wrote:

Sharp324 wrote:

Reise wrote:

PCI-E 2.0 means new motherboard, so no I'm not really waiting for it. Rather just get two 8800's and sli them.

Not really, 2.0 cards work in 1.0 or 1.1 whichever you want to call it.

The 8800GT is still a awesome card, still better than the GTS (less the GTS is the newer G92). But personally don't want to spend $450 on a graphics card. The 9 series may bring the price down for some of the cards but it will mostly bring the price down on NVIDIA flagship high end cards, not the mid-high level too much, but it will definitely bring them down.

and yeah the freq wont be as important, aiming for on the onboard memory now, since most games love the 512MB. But soon then will love the 1 gig cards when they come.

Need PCI 2.0 to take full advantage of the card though.

Thats common sense but you dont need 2.0 for it to work.

crazy_foo · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1387 **Location:**

pr0klobster wrote:

I'm looking at the 8800GS at the moment, it's easily within my budget and beats the snot out of my 7800GT. 9600GT looks ok but almost impossible to find. Plus I heard oc'ing is a bit more difficult...although there might be unlocks on the 9x series.

The 9800GTX is the "new" architecture though, G92 is 8800GS too.

Have to see how it shakes out.

I would have to say wait out for 9600GT to become more in stock. Those cards will perform much better than the GS for almost the same money. Also in some cases u can find 8800GT for $200 if u look around so that would also be smart shopping

the.unseen. · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 1102 **Location:**

Meh won't need one for another year or so the 8800GTS is good enough for me right now.

[SD]Twysta · **Posted:** Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:00 am

yeah i need a new graphics card as well.

i think im just gonna buy a 8800 next week when my paycheck arrives because the card i have is giving up on me.

pr0klobster · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 1427 **Location:**

crazy_foo wrote:

pr0klobster wrote:

I'm looking at the 8800GS at the moment, it's easily within my budget and beats the snot out of my 7800GT. 9600GT looks ok but almost impossible to find. Plus I heard oc'ing is a bit more difficult...although there might be unlocks on the 9x series.

The 9800GTX is the "new" architecture though, G92 is 8800GS too.

Have to see how it shakes out.

I would have to say wait out for 9600GT to become more in stock. Those cards will perform much better than the GS for almost the same money.

Got links to (p)reviews? I have only found a few and from that it looks like the 8800GS for the most part is equal to, and actually beats the 9600GT in some benches.

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Also in some cases u can find 8800GT for $200 if u look around so that would also be smart shopping

Nah, I don't want to spend that much, I'm on a budget and just recently bought a 6600 w/ mobo and 2 gigs of DDR2 RAM. It'll replace my X2-3800 and hopefully overclock better.

Vandango · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 4143 **Location:**

Im So getting that 9800 GTX When i buy my new parts

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory. :love:

- DirectX 10.1 support. :love:

- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core)
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

€270 = 205.76 Pounds Stirling

Sharp324 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 4383 **Location:**

Vandango wrote:

Im So getting that 9800 GTX When i buy my new parts

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory. :love:

- DirectX 10.1 support. :love:

- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core)
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

lol gl, price will be through the roof at first..and wont be the easiest to get.

pr0klobster · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 1427 **Location:**

Sharp324 wrote:

Vandango wrote:

Im So getting that 9800 GTX When i buy my new parts

"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory. :love:

- DirectX 10.1 support. :love:

- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core)
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

lol gl, price will be through the roof at first..and wont be the easiest to get.

200 British pounds seems cheap if you ask me, that's only about $407 American. I'd think it'd run closer to $500.

crazy_foo · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1387 **Location:**

pr0klobster wrote:

crazy_foo wrote:

pr0klobster wrote:

I'm looking at the 8800GS at the moment, it's easily within my budget and beats the snot out of my 7800GT. 9600GT looks ok but almost impossible to find. Plus I heard oc'ing is a bit more difficult...although there might be unlocks on the 9x series.

The 9800GTX is the "new" architecture though, G92 is 8800GS too.

Have to see how it shakes out.

I would have to say wait out for 9600GT to become more in stock. Those cards will perform much better than the GS for almost the same money.

Got links to (p)reviews? I have only found a few and from that it looks like the 8800GS for the most part is equal to, and actually beats the 9600GT in some benches.

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Also in some cases u can find 8800GT for $200 if u look around so that would also be smart shopping

Nah, I don't want to spend that much, I'm on a budget and just recently bought a 6600 w/ mobo and 2 gigs of DDR2 RAM. It'll replace my X2-3800 and hopefully overclock better.

There's quite a few reviews out there. This is a good review of the 9600GT but it doesn't compare the 8800GS

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1 ... 679,00.asp What I'm saying is if u can find a 9600GT for $150 buy it, if u can't then the 8800GS is pretty close to it so just get that. Also if the 9800GTX is really released at $407 which is unlikely I bet that would push the 8800GTX down to around $340, that might be my time to buy an 8800GTX XD. Although idk how much better the GTX is better than the 8800GT that I have, probably not too much

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