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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:26 pm 
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Fly bought me a full sun set and a cookie for 7.5b im happy im legit.

Edit - Any other server giving away free gold to legits from fort money????


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Edit - Any other server giving away free gold to legits from fort money????


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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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[quote="BloodOwnzzz] You make stupid assumptions based off of nothing. You are very arrogant, yet you are just doing what any normal group of Euros can do. Heck, on top of all this, you aren't even the first to dominate a server with legits.
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Don't you make assumptions out of nothing too? Have you ever logged on venus, watched Avalon job or at fortress? Ever seen that?

I dare you to do 1% of what a 8 man party of avalon member can do.

Fly never said he was the 1st one to do this, he even says he got the idea from MaliceArmy, so yeah...?

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Avalon isnt really anti-bot, despite what you think.

Avalon is pro-legit. Other than SRF, we are apparently the only pro-legit force in SRO. Venus isnt only about Avalon, we are just the most visible and we started it. Why do you think half the mods on SRF have chars on Venus and prolly 50% of SROs remaining legits? Because it is what we say it is. You can call us arrogant jerks, but we arent lying. Venus isnt just controlled by a strong legit guild or union. Its controlled by legits COMPLETELY as a cooperative group. Legits dominate the server on every level. Sure there are gold bots and few player bots... But they arent even a factor.

We discourage bots and encourage legits on as many levels as possible. In SROs current environment, that is a crime. lol We are trying to change that.

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Xian - _Wazzup_
Aege - JeeshDragon
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Alps - TearDrop O
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Tibet - aReS
Babel - Gold_Dragon
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Eldorado - Wicked
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Persia - Genesis
Zeus - MORTIS
Poseidon - TearSofSuN
Hercules - LuNe
Odin - MaliceArmy
Mercury - Imperial
Mars - ERGENEKON
Saturn - GrindHouse
Venus - Avalon
Uranus - Heroes
Pluto - DNS
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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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wow, when did Avalon become so arrogant? :roll:


When weren't they?

TD still controls Alps.



is there any other union on alps anyway? :roll:


lol ya. KUWAIT made a union because they thought that spending $3,000 usd a month to buy their suns and make them +9 made them good or something. Not to mention everyone hates what they are jealous of, so many people try to form unions against us. At one point, every strong player that wasnt in TD union was in a single union, they still failed...miserably. Not to mention they broke apart shortly after.

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When weren't they?

TD still controls Alps.



is there any other union on alps anyway? :roll:


lol ya. KUWAIT made a union because they thought that spending $3,000 usd a month to buy their suns and make them +9 made them good or something. Not to mention everyone hates what they are jealous of, so many people try to form unions against us. At one point, every strong player that wasnt in TD union was in a single union, they still failed...miserably. Not to mention they broke apart shortly after.



lol I bet they are all greedy and want the money :O


how TD is sharing the money?

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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You make stupid assumptions based off of nothing. You are very arrogant, yet you are just doing what any normal group of Euros can do. Heck, on top of all this, you aren't even the first to dominate a server with legits.


Don't you make assumptions out of nothing too? Have you ever logged on venus, watched Avalon job or at fortress? Ever seen that?

I dare you to do 1% of what a 8 man party of avalon member can do.

Fly never said he was the 1st one to do this, he even says he got the idea from MaliceArmy, so yeah...?


Well for 1, way to epic fail at quoting...

And seriously. This game is very limited on things you can actually do different than someone else. There is no way they are doing anything that will seriously blow any other Euro party out of the water. They are just normal Euros playing in normal parties. But, on top of that they have huge numbers of people who are at least mildly smart and are able to play well in a party. There is nothing they are doing different or better from normal Euro parties... It's just there numbers and success which makes them seem better.

This game is follow a template, mash buttons and shit works. You insert 8 of one mildly smart person and you have an invincible team. It is that simple. There is nothing they can really do better than anyone who can grasp the concept of how to party...

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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Kratos wrote:
Fly never said he was the 1st one to do this, he even says he got the idea from MaliceArmy, so yeah...?


You're right, Fly never said it, but NB can't seem to understand what's going on when she says things like:

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You act like you didnt once push for a second legit server and sabotaging the legit movement that WE started and YOU once tried to continue is okay.


The legit movement that YOU started, eh? Short-term memory loss? I'm generally for what Avalon is doing, but their arrogance is beginning to become annoying.

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Fly bought me a full sun set and a cookie for 7.5b im happy im legit.

Edit - Any other server giving away free gold to legits from fort money????


*crickets*


We don't give out free money to legits just like we don't do free plvls for legits; all it encourages is laziness and begging. Therefore, we distribute the war money to the people who show up to defend, regardless of the level. And also, we do parties to help low levels level; stick one or two level 80's in a level 60 party and it's amazing how much exp they get... while still contributing to the party and LEARNING.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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Td union :love:

And your proud of that? WOnder how many legits there are in TearDrop?

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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We don't give out free money to legits just like we don't do free plvls for legits; all it encourages is laziness and begging. Therefore, we distribute the war money to the people who show up to defend, regardless of the level. And also, we do parties to help low levels level; stick one or two level 80's in a level 60 party and it's amazing how much exp they get... while still contributing to the party and LEARNING.


That is one of the ways I like strong Euro unions to play but I tend to keep it a secret because I find it a lot more efficient than powerleveling. You are not only helping people that will most likely make it high level but also give them to look forward too and some partying experience.

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is there any other union on alps anyway? :roll:


lol ya. KUWAIT made a union because they thought that spending $3,000 usd a month to buy their suns and make them +9 made them good or something. Not to mention everyone hates what they are jealous of, so many people try to form unions against us. At one point, every strong player that wasnt in TD union was in a single union, they still failed...miserably. Not to mention they broke apart shortly after.



lol I bet they are all greedy and want the money :O


how TD is sharing the money?

As much as it seems like KUWAIT is actually pretty generous. They give gold to ppl in the union all the time. Even farking Suns, but not to me :x

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We don't give out free money to legits just like we don't do free plvls for legits; all it encourages is laziness and begging. Therefore, we distribute the war money to the people who show up to defend, regardless of the level. And also, we do parties to help low levels level; stick one or two level 80's in a level 60 party and it's amazing how much exp they get... while still contributing to the party and LEARNING.


That is one of the ways I like strong Euro unions to play but I tend to keep it a secret because I find it a lot more efficient than powerleveling. You are not only helping people that will most likely make it high level but also give them to look forward too and some partying experience.

And that's the majority of the "powerlevelling" done on Venus. A high level wizard usually joins a lower level party, however the party continues as if he were a wizard of equal level to them. They learn, they get kills fast, everyone's happy.

On the subject of the bots on our server, they're so disorganised we could probably not show up and still hold it. They're too busy killing other attacking guilds to even think about combined force on one gate, or to just go back to that gate even if they died instead of trying to take down multiple gates.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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lol wat happened to Venice?

i think no guild participate it...or maybe 2-3 guilds went fwar lol


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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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Well... You guys are welcome on Venus. We try to share the fortress gold through a Legit Confederation. You can read about it in the Venus section.

thx for offer, but i think i'll stay
I believe a lot of us are still going to stay here on hera, and i said before Hera came out, i wouldn't give up on this union

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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wow, when did Avalon become so arrogant? :roll:

The **** you been at? We of Avalon have been arrogant since our TheEMPIRE days in Xian. Sheesh people, keep up with the times.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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I was trying to leave this one alone, but you seem to want to fight. What you did on Odin is great. I never said it wasnt. But what we did is different. We are building not a strong legit union, but a haven for legits in general. We want many strong legit unions. We planned this out from before Venus went live.

Im not going to preface everything I say about Venus with "Odin has a strong legit Union who controls the fortress".

Grats on being strong and legit but that isnt what we are talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: Who won the Fortress on your server?
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Hmmm, I played on Venus yesterday for a while. Honestly, it's a great server with lots of legit and of course drama. I met a couple of Avalon guys and from my own experience they are nice and really hate bots. And of course if you are a bot on this forum you will somewhat hate them and thus replying bad comments towards them to make them look stupid?(even though you are not in their server)(not implying that all people that dispite Avalon are botters).

Avalon says they help noobs by giving them gold or plvl. Well, yesterday I just pmed nb to say hi and nothing more. She gave me 1m, even though I didn't ask for it. 1m is nothing for her (just like any other high lvl... lol). I haven't found many people that just give gold to random people (except myself :P ), so I respect that and what's she's trying to accomplish. I guess she gave me gold to teleport to dw, but not only that... I guess she gave me gold to give me an 'iniciative' to leave my capped char and to play on Venus. I admire that. It seems that Avalon really wanna try and have a fun legit server and I see nothing wrong in that.

So people here, even though some of the Avalon guys might seem 'arrogant' (I agree to some extent), they have accomplished something really big that no one has accomplished - a really legit server (I don't think Odin could be even compared to Venus - no offence given). Hence, I guess they have the rights to brag about it? I mean it's a hell of work just to get rid of botters in their server(there is still a few from what I have seen). So yea... Thumbs up for Venus and what these guys have done and still trying to do.

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Wait...a rational post from a non-interested party who gathered information independently before coming to a conclusion? I thought this was the f**king internet!!! GTFO!!!


huh? me?

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(I don't think Odin could be even compared to Venus - no offence given). Hence, I guess they have the rights to brag about it? I mean it's a hell of work just to get rid of botters in their server(there is still a few from what I have seen).


Not to start an argument, but I think that having high level, somewhat-competent bots on our server is nice in a way; it gives us someone to hate on, someone to destroy in wars, etc. and we don't have to feel bad about it. Not to mention it also livens the server up having two completely opposite groups competing for the same territory. Venus right now seems just like a no-contest... boring for me... I enjoy Odin just like it is :P...minus the goldbots... but I can't do much about them.

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I don't care if they give handouts... They still act like they are 9001x better than everyone else where all they did was play in Euro parties and not buy silk... Sure there server might be a majority of legit players. But the core of that comes from them just doing normal Euro party shit. They advertised it a lot too. On top of being popular with the community they were able to draw tons of people in. People do see this as a legit haven as NightBloom called it. But, beyond that is the truth. They aren't better than anyone else when it comes to playing and it took a lot less effort to do what they've done than it would for someone like me to drag hundreds of legits to Gaia. They are to arrogant for the easy ride they've had to get to where they are, although it might not have been easy it was a hell of a lot easier than it would have been compared to some random guy showing up and doing the same.

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athens..nw has it still.

EVEN AFTER FOVIAC THREW A HISSY FIT BECAUSE HE WOULDNT GET 2 SHARES OF THE FW PROFIT!

we still won and pwned that union.

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Venus right now seems just like a no-contest... boring for me...


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I don't care if they give handouts... They still act like they are 9001x better than everyone else where all they did was play in Euro parties and not buy silk... Sure there server might be a majority of legit players. But the core of that comes from them just doing normal Euro party shit. They advertised it a lot too. On top of being popular with the community they were able to draw tons of people in. People do see this as a legit haven as NightBloom called it. But, beyond that is the truth. They aren't better than anyone else when it comes to playing and it took a lot less effort to do what they've done than it would for someone like me to drag hundreds of legits to Gaia. They are to arrogant for the easy ride they've had to get to where they are, although it might not have been easy it was a hell of a lot easier than it would have been compared to some random guy showing up and doing the same.


I agree with you in the part where you said that it was easier for nb and fly to get more people involved rather than if some random guy and showed up and asked to form a legit guild in the next server. But why do you think it was easier for them? Probably, because they already set an image to the public form their past sro experiences? I mean, after all they have been playing SRO since 2006 and many people in this forum knows them as icons. I don't really know the whole Xian history, but for what I have read and seen, theempire was an anti-bot guild that made lots of bots pissed (eg. DarkJackal).

I'm an old school SROer. I have been in this forum and playing sro since 2006 and I haven't seen legits so determined to get rid off botters than nb and fly.

AND BTW, if you or anyone else think nb/fly/avalon are my friends or anything... they aren't. Hell, I don't even talk to them. So yea...
I'm just a non-party associated just like non_ego_man said.

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Well our union kept fortress this time which was pretty nice, we actually had to look for people to kill since there were only 2 attacking guilds. I left 15 minutes after the war started due to boredom so you can imagine, I hope royals and whitewolf get together again and make this server mildy amusing again :/

Btw. you guys are really making venus more boring than it already is. I'd say Odin > Venus, more fun for the legits when theres an actual competition.


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Avalon isnt really anti-bot, despite what you think.

Avalon is pro-legit. Other than SRF, we are apparently the only pro-legit force in SRO. Venus isnt only about Avalon, we are just the most visible and we started it. Why do you think half the mods on SRF have chars on Venus and prolly 50% of SROs remaining legits? Because it is what we say it is. You can call us arrogant jerks, but we arent lying. Venus isnt just controlled by a strong legit guild or union. Its controlled by legits COMPLETELY as a cooperative group. Legits dominate the server on every level. Sure there are gold bots and few player bots... But they arent even a factor.

We discourage bots and encourage legits on as many levels as possible. In SROs current environment, that is a crime. lol We are trying to change that.

BTW... Is this list accurate as far as anyone knows?

Xian - _Wazzup_
Aege - JeeshDragon
Troy - ImmortaIity
Athens - NetWarriors
Oasis - Zodiacs
Venice - China_City
Greece - Kuwait
Alps - TearDrop O
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Tibet - aReS
Babel - Gold_Dragon
RedSea - _Evolution_
Rome - Reborn
Sparta - Federation
Eldorado - Wicked
Pacific- VietE_4ever
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Persia - Genesis
Zeus - MORTIS
Poseidon - TearSofSuN
Hercules - LuNe
Odin - MaliceArmy
Mercury - Imperial
Mars - ERGENEKON
Saturn - GrindHouse
Venus - Avalon
Uranus - Heroes
Pluto - DNS
Neptune - _Imperial_
Hera - SpirituS

im in avalon union btw hurricane dont got one single bot in the guild all 100% legit

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