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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:31 pm 
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I'd much rather you just put a keylogger in it ;d lol, screw joymax, can't count on them to do anything, it's not like thye need help finding bots =.=.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm 
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the bots are packed with themida its impossible to decode that, they packed it so people couldnt use cracks. you can decode it

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:19 pm 
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So your going to give joymax a second list of botters? Despite the fact they know / can know everyone that bots extremely easily? Telling them who bots when they already know who does, wont do anything because joymax doesnt WANT to ban the bots.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:28 pm 
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You will be banned for banning bots lol

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:33 pm 
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Oh, and where would you post it?
Most botters use isrobot, maybe softmod.. paid bots, why would they DL from somewhere else?
free botters use agbot, from rev6 (not a secret, it's on their main page.)
So, where oh where could you post it.. I guess on a cheat forum like Epvp, but it would be found out to be not safe and your account would be banned.

even if you were to do this and JM got the info, I really doubt they'd even ban them, lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:35 pm 
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I don't think they're that dumb. Maybe lv20 who've never botted before may fall for it, but the majority of them wouldn't.

http://www.Softmode.tk/download_this_keylogger - Who falls for something like that?

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:09 pm 
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I told u, there're only 2 solutions players could do:
1. guard with lightning thief
2. drop gold

But ppl are too lazy :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:26 pm 
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NuclearSilo wrote:
I told u, there're only 2 solutions players could do:
1. guard with lightning thief
2. drop gold

But ppl are too lazy :banghead:


Why dont simply dont make program that will allow people to compete with server trafic? Bots have no probs loging in.
Not sure if bots use built in autoselect next target(that could be blocked by jm possibly if they use and if they want)

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:10 am 
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JanChlpik wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
I told u, there're only 2 solutions players could do:
1. guard with lightning thief
2. drop gold

But ppl are too lazy :banghead:


Why dont simply dont make program that will allow people to compete with server trafic? Bots have no probs loging in.
Not sure if bots use built in autoselect next target(that could be blocked by jm possibly if they use and if they want)


Nope. Bots target mobs by detecting packets. All the info about mob type etc. is there. The autoselect feature was removed to stop pixel bots.


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
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omg this so dumb lol


there are 100000000000 bots with keyloggers and troyans , how is this stuff gona be different ? :banghead: :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:22 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:30 am 
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What you propose is just one temporary solution. It is better to fight botting by actually playing. Do it like Odin and Venus. All that is left are gold bots. Eventually when players on those servers stop buying gold, gold bots would reduce in numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
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Given the SLIGHTEST chance that it did "work"....Joymax wouldn't care.

You might as well concentrate your efforts on trying to get bots murderer instead.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:02 am 
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lol cheers to you :P
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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:22 am 
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I don't think any smart person would use bots that are free cause of keyloggers. Put a price on it lol. Make some money. j/k. It's ridiculous because it wouldn't stop current botters, just get more wanting to bot.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:47 am 
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What are you talking about? There aren't any botters on SRF...

And then, there were the closet botters :x


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:53 am 
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NuclearSilo wrote:
But ppl are too lazy :banghead:


Not all.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:55 am 
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I'm not telling what bot it's going to be on am I no, So yah, but I need to know if Admins will let me, without getting banned. But see, what I'm going to do is

Write a program to descramble the bot code into Python (Since I know it quite well), Python Specializes in Mail Servers from Home etc etc, This post is just going to put fear in botters, they will never know, maybe even plant in bots that cost ^_^, It'll work similar to a Keyloggers Design (COLLECT DATA-Send from Built-In email) but It will be undetectable, It will be the bot basically, just modified so It won't work, and sends info to Jm's email. Hopefully I can mass-email it on website ^_^ give me ideas ppl

problem is if you make a email server it wont' leave the network, unless their router is set up to allow that port to go thru, you can have it send you the information directly and then you email it to jm, just make sure you are globally accessible

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:54 am 
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How about the lv 80 legit go annoy player bots with lightning thieves and tell them to go to other server or quit the game? :P

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
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"hey joymax, i made a bot and gave it to people and these are the lists of the accounts"

"so you distributed a bot did you? you do realize thats against our tos right? you are more of a perpetrator than the people who used your product"


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:16 am 
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Total waste of time. Find something else that is worthwhile for your life.

Joymax supports bot and you are getting in the way. The only person they will consider banning is you! :x


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:33 am 
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Ive done something like that... =]
Using Visual Basic 6 all you need is a STMP server like gmail..I would give u the code but i formatted my computer recently and havnt got VB6 installer

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:17 pm 
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I told u, there're only 2 solutions players could do:
1. guard with lightning thief
2. drop gold

But ppl are too lazy :banghead:


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3. They could quit botting :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:48 pm 
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Maybe a solution is to put a time limit on the image code, gold bots using auto-login need several minutes to crack the code, so why not put a time limit of 30 secs for entering the image code, then if you're too late, you get the second.. and at the third code you get a 10 min ban


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:17 pm 
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Maybe a solution is to put a time limit on the image code, gold bots using auto-login need several minutes to crack the code, so why not put a time limit of 30 secs for entering the image code, then if you're too late, you get the second.. and at the third code you get a 10 min ban

It doesnt seem so
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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:40 pm 
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[SW]Hellraider wrote:
Maybe a solution is to put a time limit on the image code, gold bots using auto-login need several minutes to crack the code, so why not put a time limit of 30 secs for entering the image code, then if you're too late, you get the second.. and at the third code you get a 10 min ban

It doesnt seem so
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I saw that video before, i think hes just manually entering the code


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Destruction
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:53 pm 
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I agree with others. It's not a good idea to distribute a third party application like this that links into SRO. Besides, botters would very quickly discover that your version of the bot doesn't work right. If your bot happens to get used by someone who happens to have an IDS on their network, they would quickly see the e-mail packets going out. That would throw up some red flags right there.

Warnings would be posted all over the bot forums.

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gratz for the 500th post, lol.
banning coupla bots wont hurt, but wont add as well...its not a minute till u find each n every town full of town spammers + sdfgsdfgdsf, ghdh, sdfgsdfg, and sdfhsdfghsdfg running out of town to dig for gold lol

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yah, but there will always be someone to dld not knowing, like most of you said n00b botters

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Gaige wrote:
yah, but there will always be someone to dld not knowing, like most of you said n00b botters


You would still be distributing third party software, which should be a bannable offense.

Now if you could somehow come up with an application that doesn't interface with SRO, but simply monitors your own network traffic, and is able to somehow programatically identify botters simply by the packets (or patterns of) that they send, then you might be on to something.

I think the software just can't actually link into, or modify, the SRO client.

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