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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:16 pm 
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heroo wrote:
'' I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fough with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. '' - Albert Einstein

or something like that :P


it was in Deacon's sig.



Yeah, i like that quote :)

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:11 pm 
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Key-J wrote:
Ok let me give it a go.

You are saying that the US has a depleted Army due to the wars in the middle east.

No, I didn't say depleted. I would imply stretched. Thus not desiring a huge prolonged war in another area forcing a withdrawal from some area to reinforce another.

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You are saying that the US will not go to help and protect Taiwan due to the depleted forces.

No, saying US will not help protect Taiwan because it doesn't want to take China head on. But the dilemma is US has a treaty with Taiwan to protect it. So if US doesn't, all treaties with the US are basically worth crap.

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However,

You are saying that the US will attack China head on. (Even though they have their depleted force)

No.

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Do you see the error of your Logic now?

No. Perhaps you totally misinterpreted my writing.

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America however, having forces in Iraq and in other parts of the world is reluctant to come to Taiwan's aid and thus engaging China directly.
Reluctant = don't want to. Why? Because doing so would thus engage China directly.

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:22 pm 
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Hrm... I think it's a fallacy of logic to compare the military power of the US with China simply in terms of troop numbers. The US has advanced its military to the point that it can wipe out China's military in a manner similar to a giant crushing an ant.

I suppose the reason you may think that the US's military is spread out thinly is that it chooses not to use it's advanced weaponry(for example using ground troops in Iraq instead of drones), but in the case of a full out war, I doubt they would hesitate at all.

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:23 pm 
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Guys,don't forget about global conflict. You cant just crush some country and go home :D

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:02 pm 
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We've talked about this before.

Don't forget the US can war as long as they want regardless of the cost. Thank our dynamic money printing mints. Sure our economy would go to shit, but we can fund anything military-wise.

Edit: So really the only thing stopping us is manpower. Reenact the draft and bam we have a super army to fight WW3.

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
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---Rev--- wrote:

Everything in that topic is fact, the American government and Military has stated so, this makes it FACT not consipiracy


I loled

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Vindicator wrote:
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Russia > America. You can say whatever you want now, but Russia is the stongest :)


I loled even harder.

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
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Vindicator wrote:
---Rev--- wrote:

Everything in that topic is fact, the American government and Military has stated so, this makes it FACT not consipiracy


I loled

deep.in wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
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Russia > America. You can say whatever you want now, but Russia is the stongest :)


I loled even harder.


No wonder, you're american :)

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:07 pm 
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Key-J wrote:
Ok let me give it a go.

You are saying that the US has a depleted Army due to the wars in the middle east.

You are saying that the US will not go to help and protect Taiwan due to the depleted forces.

However,

You are saying that the US will attack China head on. (Even though they have their depleted force)

Do you see the error of your Logic now?


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He didn't say that. He said due to depleted troops they cannot attack china head on which leads to world war three. So I take those woots and put them on my side nao :P

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
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Would you care to explain how or when Russia became the strongest military in your fantasy?

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
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Would you care to explain how or when Russia became the strongest military in your fantasy?


No. But you know, not only military is the power of army...and even Americans admitted,that Russians are in front of them if we talk about science. But i really, really don't want to discuss about this, since this will end as flames. And don't be mad. Peace :love:

PS. I love America

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 Post subject: Re: How does WWIII go down?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:30 pm 
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Military strength statistics:

Total Available Manpower:
1. China - 668,000,000
2. India - 556,000,000
3. U.S. - 135,000,000
Russia comes in 7th, with 71,000,000

Active personnel (available means nothing tbh):
1. China - 2,255,000
2. U.S. 1,426,000
3. India - 1,325,000
Russia comes in 5th with 1,000,000

Aircraft:
1. U.S. - 18,000
2. Russia - 7,000
3. India - 3,400

Armor
1. Russia (finally) - 48,000
2. U.S. - 30,000
3. Israel - 14,200

Naval Ships:
1. U.S. - 1,866
2. North Korea - 708
3. Russia - 701

Ground Artillery:
1. Russia - 30,045
2. North Korea - 21,400
3. Greece (wtf?) - 12,228
U.S. comes in 8th with 5,178

Missle defense systems:
1. U.S. - 35,325
2. Russia - 19,250
3. North Korea - 16,075

Infantry Support: (mortar and anti-tank infantry gear)
1. China - 34,000
2. France 20,000
3. Russia 19,300
U.S. comes in 18th with 2,500

Nation Wealth (purchase power in USD)
1. U.S. 14 Trillion
2. China 7 Trillion
3. Japan 4 trillion
Russia comes in 7th with 2 trillion.

Seems to me that Russia is set, ready to rock and roll for WWI...tanks and infantry mean nothing today, their military technology has fallen far behind.


deep.in wrote:
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Would you care to explain how or when Russia became the strongest military in your fantasy?


No. But you know, not only military is the power of army...and even Americans admitted,that Russians are in front of them if we talk about science. But i really, really don't want to discuss about this, since this will end as flames. And don't be mad. Peace :love:

PS. I love America


Its a debate...there shouldnt be hard feeling for debating stuff >.>
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