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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:20 pm 
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I started my character on odin server , I choosed warlock and its level 18 and here comes my 1st Question :

1)Was it a good choice ? Because I see Many Wizards lower than my level and hitting with ATLEAST double my Damage ( No , they dont have Sox Equipment)

2)For Warlocks , Shall I choose subclass Cleric or Bard ?
If Cleric , why ?
If Bard , why ? (No Wizard Subclass or Main or Any other )

I want to Be Nice in PVP and Really good in PVE and survive well! :)

3)I m now on 5 level gap , If i Choose Bard/Cleric For my Warlock, how many levels gap should I maintain for my entire journey to have it fully farmed at level 80?

NB: I have 1.3k SP

Thanks For your support, I really appreciate any member who has done effort and wasted his precious time in replying to my topic, And I m glad to tell you that it reflects how kind / gentle you are! :D

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:04 pm 
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I started my character on odin server , I choosed warlock and its level 18 and here comes my 1st Question :

1)Was it a good choice ? Because I see Many Wizards lower than my level and hitting with ATLEAST double my Damage ( No , they dont have Sox Equipment)

2)For Warlocks , Shall I choose subclass Cleric or Bard ?
If Cleric , why ?
If Bard , why ? (No Wizard Subclass or Main or Any other )

I want to Be Nice in PVP and Really good in PVE and survive well!

3)I m now on 5 level gap , If i Choose Bard/Cleric For my Warlock, how many levels gap should I maintain for my entire journey to have it fully farmed at level 80?

NB: I have 1.3k SP


Warlocks don't reach their true potential until level 44. Before that, you are better off not taking pvp/pve damage too seriously because you don't get Courage Raze and Bloody Trap until then, which are two of the best skills you will ever get. You will also be able to survive very, very well if you take a cleric subclass because you can attack cancel like no tomorrow, drop opponent's attack power, leech HP, and get extra defense and block from a shield, and you can have the added bonus of easy weapon switching and good healing capabilities. Bard does not have any true advantage for warlock except for speed, which you can incorporate into your training style by DoTing and running. You can also do that with a cleric sub and zerk. Noise, although helpful, isn't as necessary as it is for wizards and rogues, who die easily. Bless Spell, Recovery Division, and Healing Cycle can help you tank through huge mobs of monsters without difficulty. Warlocks and Wizards fight very differently. Wizards rely on huge attacks to survive, but Warlocks have to utilize all of their offensive debuffs and attack cancels to win.

Cleric sub takes a ton of SP, even with just the bare essentials. Go Bard if you don't want to keep gapping like that (A 5 gap is pretty big, and leveling will get VERY slow). You could do a 3 or 4 gap with Bard, I think. I would still recommend cleric for the added survivability.

A good skill to get is Shield Trash, which is one skill that will save your ass countless times. It takes a negligible amount of SP; all you need is 10 levels of warrior, which takes less than 30 sp to do. Shield Trash has a 2 second cooldown and can KB three players/monsters at once with an impressive rate of 80%, and can even dull 40% of the time. With Stun and Sleep, you'll be nearly untouchable, and even more so when you get to level 76 and you can have two books of each! (To annoy someone: Stun, Stun, Sleep, Sleep, KB)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:18 pm 
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So 5 lvls gap and i will be good for cleric and warlock with all skills

maxed out .

And u prefer to get 10 lvls up for warrior and then delevel it back ??

and if so i would have to depend on the 10 lvls and shift from warlock to warrior and from warrior to warlock ( i mean weapons) and the 10 lvls will be weak for lvl 30 monesters :O ..

any ways thank u very much for ur help :D

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^ There is skill shield trash that will knockback enemy ... you dont use it for dmg .... you use it to cancel their attack , drink a pot or two , and continue to fight ... it has 80% chance to knockback .... Even against lv.80 it has 80% chance ...

Btw ... Warlock is really really impressive build ... Keep on playing it ... and I suggest you to go to Venus (not much traffic and shitloads of legits and awesome players , + alot of euro parties) or Hera (everyone is low level , there are alot of parties of low levels and traffic sux a bit , but its better on older servers) ...

You must go on one of those 2 ... really others sux ... trust me ... You MUST!!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:30 pm 
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lol i shifted from mars to odin just a while ago , mmm i dont plan on

leaving again :( i am bored from remaking and thank u for reply , i was

going to leave my warlock but u and the advance encouraged me to continue

on it thank u all :d

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:37 pm 
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majincooler wrote:
So 5 lvls gap and i will be good for cleric and warlock with all skills

maxed out .

And u prefer to get 10 lvls up for warrior and then delevel it back ??

and if so i would have to depend on the 10 lvls and shift from warlock to warrior and from warrior to warlock ( i mean weapons) and the 10 lvls will be weak for lvl 30 monesters :O ..

any ways thank u very much for ur help :D


You should get 10 mastery levels of warrior and add one point to Shield Trash. Like Nitro said, it isn't used for damage, but for the instant KB that can save you from a final hit. It works well against any close ranged class, like warriors, rogues, bladers, and glaivers.

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ok so u prefer 80 lvls warlock and 70 cleric and 10 warrior?

and one last thing , u prefer 5 gaps than 9 or 7 , and I WILL get my

skills maxed out???

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I think u should just go 80 warlock/80 cleric cause u will hav to dlvl the 10 warrior eventually anyways.

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4 gap should provide enough SP for all Cleric and Warlock skills. 3 gap will be enough if you're only getting essential skills such as, Bless Spell, Recovery Divison, etc. If you're using a Skill Ticket, 3 gap will be enough for all Cleric and Warlock skills.

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noobert mclagg wrote:
I think u should just go 80 warlock/80 cleric cause u will hav to dlvl the 10 warrior eventually anyways.


But then again, it's not very hard to get 130 cursed hearts and delevel it. The point of shield trash is to be a good defensive maneuver whenever stun or sleep is still in cooldown, taking relatively little investment. It's perfectly reasonable to delevel it once you reach level 76, when other books of stun/sleep are available. In fact, I've had shield trash since before level 50 and I have just deleveled it at 72. I can feel its loss already. Swatting away those pesky STR builds is a huge help, and you can attack cancel anyone if you're standing next to them. Besides, if you're not going to be a party cleric, your Recovery Division, Bless Spell, and Healing Cycle will still perform well. (Holy Word will be behind by one degree, though.) You don't lose very much if you're missing 10 levels, which is only one or two upgrades of each skill. The advantages of having shield trash are huge, especially in PVP. So you should delevel shield trash when you want your cleric skills up to date (which shouldn't matter too terribly much if you only have the basics) or once you get the next books of stun/sleep.

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Thank u all guys , now i am level 20 Warlock skills lvl 19 ( Just to put on new items ) with 1209 SP and Now i start to feel their true power with DOTs and other skills :D

Regardes from MajinCooler ,Odin.

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