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 Post subject: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:35 am 
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i decided to focus on my wiz but not sure wish sub i want, on one hand i have warlock wish is pretty good at pvp i can sleep>debuffs>dots>stun>nuke>fear>nuke?>win but then i also have. then there is cleric as well wish is good at both pvp and pve i am immune to warlock stuff, able to heal over time, group up for exp bless survive giants and for pvp i can bless myself and not 100% sure but have a warranty win since dmg is high and with bless is hard to kill.

just share your views on this sub classes hopefully some1 other than myself gets something out of this, btw if there is any wiz/cleric reading this i would like to know how well the build does in pvp i know warlock does very well 1v1 but pve is an important part of the game as well

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 Post subject: Re: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:38 am 
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I would go bard.

I like the hit and run cuz it pisses people off. Bard also looks smexy, and the tambours, etc are helpful.

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 Post subject: Re: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:29 am 
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I have to make that choise too. My wizzard can now wear heavy armor and robes.
I cant immagine fighting higher lvl phy attacking mobs in robes with a full Int wizz.

Bard as sub will result you only being able to wear robes.
With Clerk as sub it can be Heavy Armor too.
Dont know what is possible with warlock as sub.

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 Post subject: Re: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:44 am 
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pain wrote:
I have to make that choise too. My wizzard can now wear heavy armor and robes.
I cant immagine fighting higher lvl phy attacking mobs in robes with a full Int wizz.

Bard as sub will result you only being able to wear robes.
With Clerk as sub it can be Heavy Armor too.
Dont know what is possible with warlock as sub.


With cleric mastery you cant wear heavy armor -.-. you mean light armor

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 Post subject: Re: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:57 am 
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pain wrote:
I have to make that choise too. My wizzard can now wear heavy armor and robes.
I cant immagine fighting higher lvl phy attacking mobs in robes with a full Int wizz.

Bard as sub will result you only being able to wear robes.
With Clerk as sub it can be Heavy Armor too.
Dont know what is possible with warlock as sub.


i think it just depends on how careful you are i dont have dying problems i avoid fighting giants party mobs etc all good

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 Post subject: Re: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:16 pm 
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I'm farming my wizard at the moment.
my opnion is take bard.... let me explain

sub bard; speed (hit and run) noise (great if mobs dont attack you) and tambours very nice to party. besides all these buff they have some nice attack skills too
The con is no single protection/healing.

Cleric; very nice sub build with the heals buff and not to forget bless its great!
But still with your bless on you will die.
also pro is that you can wear lightarmor.

Warlock; best to have for cape fight for pve its useless unlesh you want to get orgasm's over the damage you do.

So i think bard would be the best

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 Post subject: Re: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:37 am 
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i heard one thing about wizz and dont know if its true, when a wizz wear robes he give more dmg than a wizz wearing light armor... is it true?

PS.: I know that robes give more speed and less mp comsumption

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 Post subject: Re: best wiz sub
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:03 am 
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This is my first reply as an opinion, and advise to choose bard as a sub. Let me explain why i think bard would be a wise choice.

If you choose bard, you have the choice of being a bard instead of a wizard if you do parties, i wont advice for solo because you need the quickest kill "wizard" due to being full int "low HP". Bard is as helpful as clerics in parties, it has very nice buffs "tambours" and "dances if a second bard is available", not to mention the moving/swing march. If you are a wizard with a sub bard in a party, you will have noise, which help against aggro mobs, you will have moving/swing march, which makes you move fast toward or away from the mobs, and those two would be your main skills from the bard sub as a wiz. In solo, you also would get those beniefts.

If you choose cleric, you have the opportunity to be a cleric in parties which heals and buffs the entire party, it have some good attacks and offerings xD. Now if you want to use the cleric as a sub when you are attacking as a wiz, in parties, you can bless the party members with soul and body blessings, you can cast word bless on yourself or other members, you can heal or ress the party, you can cast a bless shield every 3min, and you can use recovery division. And as you notice, in parties, to get the full benieft from the cleric, you would have to keep changing between cleric rod and wizard staff, and sometimes you will be equiping the shield as well. You should know, that in parties, using recovery division is very risky, which will aggro mobs toward you and you really dont need that. In solo, you can have recovery division, word bless, and bless sheild, in my openion, bless sheild wont affect much, but it is still very usefull, and recovery division has a slight effect since your HP is low "being full int" so most probably, couple of hits and you will die, which you rarely benieft from the recovery division against HIGHER mobs, the heal skills wont be useless for you in solo, since before switching the staff to the rod, you most likely be dead, and if not, and you healed yourself, the mob would be still around and hitting you, and it would be risky to switch back to staff. The only thing and the best for a full int wiz from a sub bard, is #1 Offerings #2 Wordbless #3 Bless Shield.

Warlock, good with debuffing in parties, and not very useful in solo. Very good in PVP "1v1", but if more than one person is attacking, then it wont be much useful.

And you also remember that Warlock and Cleric use shield, which increase the def. and would be annoying if you want to switch between the staff and another weapon with a shield.

Hope this helps..

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