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PrincessBoA
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Post subject: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:26 pm |
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I having been wondering about the alchemy success rate for D8 and D9! Is it stay the same or different?
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:29 pm |
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Why would it be different? You think anyone could prove it, if it was already different?
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:40 pm |
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Yesterday tried to pimp lv 80 spear used 20 stones philosoph to fix magic attack failed failed 0-0 22%-22% max was 22% then used phy stone and made in 1st 61% then i tried on +ing whit premium plus all +1 ok +2 failed tehn agian +1 +2 +3 failed f**k this jm i am using premium and barely can make +3
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:24 pm |
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Andrei wrote: Yesterday tried to pimp lv 80 spear used 20 stones philosoph to fix magic attack failed failed 0-0 22%-22% max was 22% then used phy stone and made in 1st 61% then i tried on +ing whit premium plus all +1 ok +2 failed tehn agian +1 +2 +3 failed f**k this jm i am using premium and barely can make +3 Damn I must have heard the '**** you JM cant make +3 with premium' line over a thousand times now o_O OT: If you are thinking that because the STR, INT and HP buff have been increased it will be harder to make them - It won't.. Its % stuff afterall. So its all the same.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:48 pm |
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IMO it seems that 9th Alchemy has a higher failure rate then 8th. It has been discussed a lot in our union since the update.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:25 pm |
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Dunno whats up with you guys and your alchemy... But with the new premium, I doing well... Made few protector and garment 76+ +4 +5 .. Made few weapons 80 and 85 +5 ... Accesories and shields +4 +5 almost without any problems.... xD
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:32 pm |
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LockStar. wrote: Andrei wrote: Yesterday tried to pimp lv 80 spear used 20 stones philosoph to fix magic attack failed failed 0-0 22%-22% max was 22% then used phy stone and made in 1st 61% then i tried on +ing whit premium plus all +1 ok +2 failed tehn agian +1 +2 +3 failed f**k this jm i am using premium and barely can make +3 Damn I must have heard the '**** you JM cant make +3 with premium' line over a thousand times now o_O OT: If you are thinking that because the STR, INT and HP buff have been increased it will be harder to make them - It won't.. Its % stuff afterall. So its all the same. not true. think about it, if b4 they had str of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. chance was 20% at getting max. now they have 6 as well in D9 that makes the chance around 16-17%. more options means a harder time to max the stat.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:34 pm |
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Sinner wrote: Dunno whats up with you guys and your alchemy... But with the new premium, I doing well...Made few protector and garment 76+ +4 +5 .. Made few weapons 80 and 85 +5 ... Accesories and shields +4 +5 almost without any problems.... xD lol you lucky bastard >.< its hard for me to make +3 also 
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:41 pm |
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Yes its very diffrent.. its sometimes hard to get +2 on weapon lvl 85 with PREMIUM PLUS.. thats a bit unfair.. but this is game :| all my guild had truble to make somtime 9d +2.. +5 is like 8d +7 i think now..
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:08 pm |
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mike2007 wrote: LockStar. wrote: Andrei wrote: Yesterday tried to pimp lv 80 spear used 20 stones philosoph to fix magic attack failed failed 0-0 22%-22% max was 22% then used phy stone and made in 1st 61% then i tried on +ing whit premium plus all +1 ok +2 failed tehn agian +1 +2 +3 failed f**k this jm i am using premium and barely can make +3 Damn I must have heard the '**** you JM cant make +3 with premium' line over a thousand times now o_O OT: If you are thinking that because the STR, INT and HP buff have been increased it will be harder to make them - It won't.. Its % stuff afterall. So its all the same. not true. think about it, if b4 they had str of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. chance was 20% at getting max. now they have 6 as well in D9 that makes the chance around 16-17%. more options means a harder time to max the stat. So you are saying it is harder to get the crit maxed on a Sun weapon rather than on a regular one? I hope you can see what I mean...
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:34 pm |
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the minimum str/int was raised with the maximum, i believe. im not positive there. i think that basically the d9 blues are same odds as before cept 1 higher.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:13 pm |
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I don't think the rate of alchemy success differs between D8 and D9. Just because a few people are having bad luck with alchemy, they use JM as a scapegoat to their failures.
Just because an 85 weapon won't go +5, doesn't mean 9D alchemy is harder.
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h33r0yuy
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:03 pm |
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actually one thing i noticed is that someone here mentioned that they couldnt + the weapon AFTER they got 61% phys...
ive heard that the chance to + things is easier when the stats on the item are lower, meaning if you +5 it THEN do the stats you'll probably use less elixirs.
thats just something ive heard, although i did get my sword to +3 on the first shot when it had bad stats, and then did my %'s, and was pretty successful with that method. who knows, it might not have made any difference, but at least its something to try.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:23 pm |
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h33r0yuy wrote: actually one thing i noticed is that someone here mentioned that they couldnt + the weapon AFTER they got 61% phys...
ive heard that the chance to + things is easier when the stats on the item are lower, meaning if you +5 it THEN do the stats you'll probably use less elixirs.
thats just something ive heard, although i did get my sword to +3 on the first shot when it had bad stats, and then did my %'s, and was pretty successful with that method. who knows, it might not have made any difference, but at least its something to try. Doesn't sound plausible to me.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:36 pm |
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Its random, explain my 85 staff needing only 5 elixirs to +5 then burning over 400 elixirs on my 85 ring today and its still +3 if its not random
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:25 am |
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all the same
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:28 am |
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rate of failing of stones has increased, really
all kinds of stones faill 2-3 times b4 it start to success
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:35 am |
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Either it's a luck factor on each item or perhaps just the luck of the day, but I've had trouble getting some items to +3 and any alchemy on them, and others just went straight to +4 (which is enough for me for 1st tier), and had almost every stone successful without assimilation.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:45 am |
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It took all of my weapon elixirs to make my spear, and i never get beyond +3. Besides, out of 10 tries, i could only make +3 for like 4 times. I really have hard time to + my weapon!! DAMN
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:11 pm |
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CLOT wrote: rate of failing of stones has increased, really
all kinds of stones faill 2-3 times b4 it start to success cant agree with you there, i made all the blues i tried good on first try,
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:15 am |
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br of 85 shield wif 30 stones 10-12-14-10-10-10-10-10-12-14-10-10-10-10-12-14 or something like that
tried to pimp phy of 85 blade, ended up assimilating mag attck/both reinforce all to 0%, needed to get them back up again
+5 other 85 blade wif 5 elix straight, fail +6 but not destroyed +5 same blade wif 10 elix again, fail +6 again and destroyed
wat else can i say
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:19 am |
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They're the same it's just the item itself that has 'bad luck'. Somewhere in the help it says each item has it's own luck rate or something like that.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:51 pm |
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Damn... Just made my 80 shield +7 xD
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:54 pm |
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I did +8 bow today but failed +9 
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:14 pm |
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I noticed that I have better luck right after a lag spike, for example move items in your inventory until u get a 5sec delay, then try right after, I seem to have better luck that way. Oh and stay out of towns too.
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:03 pm |
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BS  i crap +7's out of mi ass and exhale +6 stuff out of mi lungs
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Post subject: Re: Alchemy sucess rate of D8 and D9 Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:39 pm |
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Then can you please squeeze out a choclate +9 xbow for me, thanks
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