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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:03 pm 
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my whole family is almost 100% filled with engineers. im thinking of taking astronomy or biology..., snce they have amth in it too :). problem: i hate math. :oops:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:26 pm 
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If u want to be smart. Learn logic and do logic riddle.
http://www.increasebrainpower.com/logic-riddles.html

The different between a smart and not smart person, is about how or how fast your neurons (brain) are connected to each other. Logic will help u how to make these connectors, help u to solve problem in a logical way.

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:01 pm 
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hapnz wrote:
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your link, nivlam site, and nuclearsilo formula all have different SP that differs in the thousands. which is correct? lol

I said that 80-90 0gap values and 80 9gap value are accurate in that pastebin link.
What I meant by it was that I killed a mob, saw how much xp/sxp I got from it and calculated the amount of sp I would get in that lvl.
Those values were very close to those I got with that NuclearSilo's formula.


the bottom line is that you wankers all jump on my ballz when all of you have different answers and everyone claims theirs is correct :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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Barotix wrote:
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I wish i was as smart as NuclerSilo or D2A guy.... :(
NuclearSilo, private lessons pl0x :D 8)

Study to become an Engineer OR you can be a wiki scholar: Tada now you have the education to be as smart Silo. I guess I could PM D2A :/


Or go to med school to become a medical doctor. Science and math go together.

I am in his guild. I will send him a message to him and have him take a look at this. Im sure he can tell whos right or wrong. He's intelligent and knows almost everything including silkroad :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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D@RK_L!GHT wrote:
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I wish i was as smart as NuclerSilo or D2A guy.... :(
NuclearSilo, private lessons pl0x :D 8)

Study to become an Engineer OR you can be a wiki scholar: Tada now you have the education to be as smart Silo. I guess I could PM D2A :/


Or go to med school to become a medical doctor. Science and math go together.

I am in his guild. I will send him a message to him and have him take a look at this. Im sure he can tell whos right or wrong. He's intelligent and knows almost everything including silkroad :shock:


I'm working on it.

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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http://silkroadaddiction.com/forum2/sil ... -help.html

D2A came to the rescue and posted on silkroadaddiction. Too bad SRF dont have any intelligent members left except people like nuclearsilo who thinks he knows stuff when he doesn't :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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ThiefzV2 wrote:
http://silkroadaddiction.com/forum2/silkroad-general-discussion/2162-nivlam-com-seeking-help.html

D2A came to the rescue and posted on silkroadaddiction. Too bad SRF dont have any intelligent members left except people like nuclearsilo who thinks he knows stuff when he doesn't :roll:



Hmmmm.... so D2A, Nivlam, Hapz, NuclearSilo, and http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0125557/sro/ are all different :shock:

Which one of those are right?

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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Plutonium wrote:
ThiefzV2 wrote:
http://silkroadaddiction.com/forum2/silkroad-general-discussion/2162-nivlam-com-seeking-help.html

D2A came to the rescue and posted on silkroadaddiction. Too bad SRF dont have any intelligent members left except people like nuclearsilo who thinks he knows stuff when he doesn't :roll:



Hmmmm.... so D2A, Nivlam, Hapz, NuclearSilo, and http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0125557/sro/ are all different :shock:

Which one of those are right?


I'd put my money on D2A. Has he ever been wrong before? He's been flamed many times but he always turn out to be correct. The guy knows everything. Scary. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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D@RK_L!GHT wrote:
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ThiefzV2 wrote:
http://silkroadaddiction.com/forum2/silkroad-general-discussion/2162-nivlam-com-seeking-help.html

D2A came to the rescue and posted on silkroadaddiction. Too bad SRF dont have any intelligent members left except people like nuclearsilo who thinks he knows stuff when he doesn't :roll:



Hmmmm.... so D2A, Nivlam, Hapz, NuclearSilo, and http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0125557/sro/ are all different :shock:

Which one of those are right?


I'd put my money on D2A. Has he ever been wrong before? He's been flamed many times but he always turn out to be correct. The guy knows everything. Scary. :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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if i may ask who is d2a?

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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ThiefzV2 wrote:
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Hmmmm.... so D2A, Nivlam, Hapz, NuclearSilo, and http://stud3.tuwien.ac.at/~e0125557/sro/ are all different :shock:

Which one of those are right?


I'd put my money on D2A. Has he ever been wrong before? He's been flamed many times but he always turn out to be correct. The guy knows everything. Scary. :shock:


+1


+2 lol. I'd say D2A too since Barotix recommended him and as Kratos said he's the only one that possess the correct damage calculation formula, HP formula, and who knows what else.


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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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Hmmm, still arrogant as always :/ If u want to know which formula is correct, u have to know how it is created.

My logic is simple:
(number of mob need to kill to lvl up) * (sp exp given by a mob)

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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NuclearSilo wrote:
Hmmm, still arrogant as always :/ If u want to know which formula is correct, u have to know how it is created.

My logic is simple:
(number of mob need to kill to lvl up) * (sp exp given by a mob)

well sometimes i calculate how many mobs i need to kill to lvl up :oops:. does this work?
100 - (your %)/ (% given by mob). does it work O.o

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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Forget everything I have said in this thread about the corrections to the formula NuclearSilo made. I read it wrong and made my chart with wrong values.

This formula NS made gives the same values as in D2A's chart:
Sp acquired in a lvl = (exp needed to lvl up / (base exp * (1-gap*10%)) * (100 + (1+gap*10%))) / 400

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:46 am 
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Thank you to everyone who posted in this thread. I'll be updating my the SP Gap calculator and hopefully be finished within an hour.


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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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hapnz wrote:
Forget everything I have said in this thread about the corrections to the formula NuclearSilo made. I read it wrong and made my chart with wrong values.

This formula NS made gives the same values as in D2A's chart:
Sp acquired in a lvl = (exp needed to lvl up / (base exp * (1-gap*10%)) * (100 + (1+gap*10%))) / 400

sorry for the mixup :d


that formula nuclearsilo gave different values have you try plugging in the value yourself yet? i've tried all possible ways with the parenthesis and paste it into google calculator but still diff answer

seems like we all won our bets on D2A :D


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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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Maniac wrote:
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Forget everything I have said in this thread about the corrections to the formula NuclearSilo made. I read it wrong and made my chart with wrong values.

This formula NS made gives the same values as in D2A's chart:
Sp acquired in a lvl = (exp needed to lvl up / (base exp * (1-gap*10%)) * (100 + (1+gap*10%))) / 400

sorry for the mixup :d


that formula nuclearsilo gave different values have you try plugging in the value yourself yet? i've tried all possible ways with the parenthesis and paste it into google calculator but still diff answer


+1
is NS still convince his formula works? i thouht we already gone thru this already in this thread hapnz. his formula is wrong. many people said it's wrong. and your table using his formula gave wrong result. so...

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 Post subject: Re: [nivlam.com] Seeking help
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hapnz wrote:
This formula NS made gives the same values as in D2A's chart:
Sp acquired in a lvl = (exp needed to lvl up / (base exp * (1-gap*10%)) * (100 * (1+gap*10%))) / 400

*fixed
lol.. maybe this will be the last of this :D

example lvl50 7gap:
(10857676/(2029*0,3)*(100*1,7))/400 = 7581


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hapnz wrote:
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This formula NS made gives the same values as in D2A's chart:
Sp acquired in a lvl = (exp needed to lvl up / (base exp * (1-gap*10%)) * (100 * (1+gap*10%))) / 400

*fixed
lol.. maybe this will be the last of this :D

example lvl50 7gap:
(10857676/(2029*0,3)*(100*1,7))/400 = 7581



LOL so NuclearSilo had the wrong formula all these times. go figure. I told yall and everyone was all on my nutsack about it :roll:

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So D2A beats NuclearSilo again, like always... just like me, Barotix, Pluto, Kratos, DarkLight, and Mania predicted.

D2A > NuclearSilo

but I think Nuclear already knows that.

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HE finds every formula but not the "greatest damage" one that only D2A seems to have XD

sry just want to annoy you silo xD


Nuclear seems to ignore you :(

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Meh, just because i mistaked the "+" and the "*" Everyone makes mistakes :D
That's why i tell u to use your head before satisfying with answers ppl gave u. And stop ass kissing D2U :wink:

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Nuclear just make a mistake when he wrote the formula on the forums but he show us how to calculate it. Until now the only one that was able to calculate the damage value (at least with the hands ^^) it was him, because D2A just claim to have it but he never show any evidence of that.

I've tested the formula for the damage that Nuclear give us for the empty hand and it was correct. On science if you want to show your results you have to give: 1)introduction (including the theory), 2)experimental procedure, 3)analysis of results and 4)conclusions; up to now D2A just claim to have the theory (part 1) but he didn't write it and he do absolutly nothing of parts 2, 3 and 4. Nuclear give us at least part 1, 2 and 3 but he dont have enough results to get to step 4.


In conclusion:

NuclearSilo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>D2A

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D2A > NuclearSilo

that doesnt matter. what matters is where u are put in the graph. and NuclearSilo > u xD

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I told you I collect smart ppl.

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Say what you want about D2A, he is wicked smart.

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I told you I collect smart ppl.

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Say what you want about D2A, he is wicked smart.


ROFL what else do you collect besides smart ppl?

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She also collects low level SoX since she likes shiny virtual items.

UnbeatableDevil wrote:
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D2A > NuclearSilo

that doesnt matter. what matters is where u are put in the graph.


English translation?

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How does D2A's cock feel D@RK_L!GHT and ThiefzV2? Is it small like I heard from the other cockmonglers?

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ThiefzV2 wrote:
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D2A > NuclearSilo

that doesnt matter. what matters is where u are put in the graph.


English translation?

I understand what he meant perfectly lol. :roll:
Maybe that's not english, but human language 8)

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So D2A beats NuclearSilo again, like always... just like me, Barotix, Pluto, Kratos, DarkLight, and Mania predicted.

D2A > NuclearSilo

but I think Nuclear already knows that.

Yes, i knew that. I knew there are a lot of things i should learn from him.
But, im not a greed when ppl say im pretending to know smt when i dont. If u think that everything i told u were BS, i'd stop contribuing to the community, i'd leave u alone to discover all the secrets of sro and to keep begging and kissing D2U's ass until he releases his great "knowledge" (i doubt when?). 8)

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NuclearSilo wrote:

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So D2A beats NuclearSilo again, like always... just like me, Barotix, Pluto, Kratos, DarkLight, and Mania predicted.

D2A > NuclearSilo

but I think Nuclear already knows that.

Yes, i knew that. I knew there are a lot of things i should learn from him.

But, im not a greed when ppl say im pretending to know smt when i dont. If u think that everything i told u were BS, i'd stop contribuing to the community, i'd leave u alone to discover all the secrets of sro and to keep begging and kissing D2U's ass until he releases his great "knowledge" (i doubt when?). 8)



No..... don't leave us. Even though you aren't as good, you're the only person we have on SRF left that is intelligent enough to solve problems and hopefully crack that dmg formula that D2A has but won't share.

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