Hey Fly, your own union is friendly to bots too sometimes you Farking hypocrite. Ask Khaara how many times he has friendly pvps with bots when the rest of your union isn't around. All the Farking time is how much. That's just one example, I'm sure I could find more if I kept track. Point is, you are being a pigheaded Farking moron, and I've had enough. Your way is not the best. A lot of people, if they had been forced to do everything you said, a lot of them would have quit anyways, your ways just create more stress from the drama that isn't always wanted. I'll make it harder on bots, ON MY TIME and not anyone elses. I miss the days when nightbloom didn't let Fly do all the thinking for her. That was a person to respect.
That was a stupid thing to say and a good reason to go.
*salutes*
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Hey Fly, your own union is friendly to bots too sometimes you Farking hypocrite. Ask Khaara how many times he has friendly pvps with bots when the rest of your union isn't around. All the Farking time is how much. That's just one example, I'm sure I could find more if I kept track. Point is, you are being a pigheaded Farking moron, and I've had enough. Your way is not the best. A lot of people, if they had been forced to do everything you said, a lot of them would have quit anyways, your ways just create more stress from the drama that isn't always wanted. I'll make it harder on bots, ON MY TIME and not anyone elses. I miss the days when nightbloom didn't let Fly do all the thinking for her. That was a person to respect.
dont be bitter. maybe if your globals were less embarassing i would not of kicked you at the 1st chance i got. and even after that you still asked to be let back in. nightbloom felt so bad for you
And dont even start with the thinking for yourseld shit. when you were in TE, u were a rabid TE supporter. When you were in Avalon, u were a huge avalon supporter. Now that you found a new family to put up with your horrible attitude, you have new butt buddies to blindly support. Why dont you take your own advise and learn to support an issue based on fact, not blind loyalty.
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Fly wrote:
ego, lets use an example. InMySight. He was going to quit when he found out Rik was botting. Then he got his ass kissed by BHA and jumped ships to a guild that allows friendly terms with botters. IMS is Riks ONLY friend on venus. They both came from xian. So now you got a "legit" guild supporting a bot supporter. That bot supporter in return is the only tie Rik has left in venus. So pretty directly, BHA is responsible for MagicRik still being on Venus. Lets go to the indirect harms thats doing. Rik is the ONLY euro in the archangels union that can use his build. So now AA and Epic are able to ks uniques. They are able to put up a fight in wars. And they benefit from a strong wizard cleric.
Okay. Perfect example. Here's the problem: I want to see a rule. The confederacy was established to create rules that we would all agree on. If, as a group of legits, we agree that you cannot chat with botters then that's fine. If we agree that you can chat with them but your chat must contain exclusively insults, then that's fine as well. If we agree that you can't buff a botter in PvP, I want to see that rule established. Personally, I'm 100% in favor of those rules but until we develop them, they can't be enforced. We're just making it up as we go along. Let's say that the only thing IMS does with Ric is chat with him while in-game. If we decide that's a ban-able offense, then we get evidence and boot him.
Look, this is the lawyer in me. Every problem gets solved as follows: 1) Issue, 2) Rule, 3) Application and 4) Conclusion. In a dictatorship, there is no rule of law so you jump from Issue to Conclusion. I want us to agree on the rules and then apply them. We're fighting over conclusions and then can't back-track to hear ourselves speak.
Yo Fly, what be up holmes? Wasup wit da hating? See how I sees it, BHA has just been trying to live up to your standards but you keep raising the bar. Then you get pissed when they can't reach, that sh1t is fcked up. Some seriously rigged sh1t. Now, heres how it goes, okie:
BHA Avalon? Yes, is win? Do I get a cookie? How about this, Fly; stop being blind. BHA um, well you guys aren't nice to botters.
HOLD DA FCK UP, I just realized. Fly you be generalizing and misunderstanding. Thats some serious bullsh1t holmes.
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nightbloom wrote:
It doesnt matter if you are friends with him Spank. I understand. I dont want you to think you should intercede in this matter either. Just dont worry about it.
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What about spank hes still friends with magic is he gonna be kicked?
Sorry spank but hes being a dickhead bringing up useless shit.
So are you. I didnt say I tak to Rik, I said me him and sight have been friends for about 5 years now and that it sucks people are treating me and sight like a botter because of it. Rik pms me every so often, I say hi. We tak about real life for about 3 minutes. Thats about it, I wont go out of my way for him since I still feel betrayed by him. Sight still talks to him - thats his choice. He can do what he wants especially now that hes in your union and not ours.
Dont ever bring me into a discussion I dont belong in ever again. You guys want to bitch at eachother over stupid shit go ahead. Leave me out of it. The only thing you need to know about me is Im legit, I Farking hate bots, I love both my union and yours, and I kick Farking ass. The end.
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Spanktastik wrote:
Axeoo7 wrote:
lol your welcome
What about spank hes still friends with magic is he gonna be kicked?
Sorry spank but hes being a dickhead bringing up useless shit.
So are you. I didnt say I tak to Rik, I said me him and sight have been friends for about 5 years now and that it sucks people are treating me and sight like a botter because of it. Rik pms me every so often, I say hi. We tak about real life for about 3 minutes. Thats about it, I wont go out of my way for him since I still feel betrayed by him. Sight still talks to him - thats his choice. He can do what he wants especially now that hes in your union and not ours.
Dont ever bring me into a discussion I dont belong in ever again. You guys want to bitch at eachother over stupid shit go ahead. Leave me out of it. The only thing you need to know about me is Im legit, I Farking hate bots, I love both my union and yours, and I kick Farking ass. The end.
Sry spank didnt mean to bring it up i wont ever again so sorry.
Can't we all get along for FIVE MINUTES? Is it so much to ask? -_-
Overall, I do agree with Fly about what is undoing the work. Now, I know I may not know all of you and most of my facts are from here, but it's still enough to draw my conclusions. I a lot of people are being friendly with the bots, and that single-handedly is undoing what has been done. I also realise that people can't control everyone and there will be people on both sides of the fence doing it.
Before jumping in and saying, "You can't say that about _______", look at yourself. Are you, have you, or do you be friendly to botters? A simple hello is all it takes. You give them attention, and because you're part of the legit community, they feel accepted. The whole reason they're sticking around, is because those simple actions make them feel accepted.
From my understanding, BHA have been saying hello to a lot of bots. You know, just being friendly people. That small thing on a large scale has a huge impact. Not to mention over the last few months we've had;
- bot powerlevel scandels - gold-buying scandels
and well, it's not quite so nice. All I'll say to close is that before I had to stop playing, every member of Avalon union knew what to do. Some didn't agree with it, but they saw and knew that it worked. Please, look at what has been done by people, not just in the last few days or the last few weeks, but look at the last few months. You're now starting to see the bigger ripples after throwing that rock into the lake.
Can't we all get along for FIVE MINUTES? Is it so much to ask? -_-
Overall, I do agree with Fly about what is undoing the work. Now, I know I may not know all of you and most of my facts are from here, but it's still enough to draw my conclusions. I a lot of people are being friendly with the bots, and that single-handedly is undoing what has been done. I also realise that people can't control everyone and there will be people on both sides of the fence doing it.
Before jumping in and saying, "You can't say that about _______", look at yourself. Are you, have you, or do you be friendly to botters? A simple hello is all it takes. You give them attention, and because you're part of the legit community, they feel accepted. The whole reason they're sticking around, is because those simple actions make them feel accepted.
From my understanding, BHA have been saying hello to a lot of bots. You know, just being friendly people. That small thing on a large scale has a huge impact. Not to mention over the last few months we've had;
- bot powerlevel scandels - gold-buying scandels
and well, it's not quite so nice. All I'll say to close is that before I had to stop playing, every member of Avalon union knew what to do. Some didn't agree with it, but they saw and knew that it worked. Please, look at what has been done by people, not just in the last few days or the last few weeks, but look at the last few months. You're now starting to see the bigger ripples after throwing that rock into the lake.
I wish you would come back Necro. I feel so exposed without all you guys here, my little antibot nutcases. *hugs*
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My point is that little things that got overlooked a while ago are coming back to haunt you.
Still confused what things got overlooked what are you talking about?
Think, do you know people who have said so much as hello to bots? THAT is what I'm talking about. That's without the whole bot powerlevel drama or the gold-buying drama.
Like I said, those little things, those little signs of acceptance, are all that it takes.
From my understanding, BHA have been saying hello to a lot of bots. You know, just being friendly people. That small thing on a large scale has a huge impact. Not to mention over the last few months we've had;
This statement is wrong. We are not friendly with bots. I'd say 99.9% of us don't even cross words with them. Only because IMS is keeping in touch with a friend of 5 years, all of a sudden all of BHA are bot friendly. We are friendly people, with each other. Our members own bot plevelees, own bots in pvp, etc. We just don't do it 24/7. We aren't militant like Avalon. We rather have fun and party with each other. We kill bots on our time whenever WE want. We are carebears to Avalon because we aren't as hardcore as they are when it comes to shit talking to bots and killing bots. I have better things to do. I will setup a bot trap, own bots in pvp, and kill bot plevelee parties when I feel like it. This doesn't mean I'm being nice to them.
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From my understanding, BHA have been saying hello to a lot of bots. You know, just being friendly people. That small thing on a large scale has a huge impact. Not to mention over the last few months we've had;
This statement is wrong. We are not friendly with bots. I'd say 99.9% of us don't even cross words with them. Only because IMS is keeping in touch with a friend of 5 years, all of a sudden all of BHA are bot friendly. We are friendly people, with each other. Our members own bot plevelees, own bots in pvp, etc. We just don't do it 24/7. We aren't militant like Avalon. We rather have fun and party with each other. We kill bots on our time whenever WE want. We are carebears to Avalon because we aren't as hardcore as they are when it comes to shit talking to bots and killing bots. I have better things to do. I will setup a bot trap, own bots in pvp, and kill bot plevelee parties when I feel like it. This doesn't mean I'm being nice to them.
Did I say it's happening now? No. Did I say anyone specifically was doing it? No. Did I say it has happened, whether it be a few weeks ago or even a few months ago? Yes.
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