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foudre
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Post subject: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:18 am |
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I've figured it out this has happened confirmed to me baro and SykoAzn and a few other people not on these forums. I think i've concretly figured it out.
Randomly a few weeks ago my alternate account was banned, it never had silk was banned at exactly 1 year old plus a few days till inspection, it never botted barotix's was over 1 year old at the time too, how ever they didn't start these bans at the time his account would have hit 1 year, so they got him once they started SykoAzn started the game almost 1 month after i did, he never bought silk, never botted, exactly one month after my alt account was banned, so was syko
this is conclusive to me that 1 year account life spans if you never buy silk, if your account is almost a year and you want to keep it hurry up and buy silk or prepare to quit or make a new charector
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:28 am |
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How come my accounts are not banned despite the fact I never bought silk and they were created since Athens came out?
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:34 am |
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so my theory is wrong? it seamed like a pretty good explination, is it really just random
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:51 am |
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There may be some truth in that.
I think their intentions are good, but the plan is poorly executed. What I believe is happening is that Joymax are, as you said, banning players who do not purchase silk after a certain period of time. Goldbots are known not purchase silk ever so while this affects players who do not intend to buy silk, it also cuts down on the number of goldbots (or non silk-buying goldbots anyway). I also believe it's only happening to accounts created after a certain date, which is why most high levels do not get banned because most of their accounts are either old or they have already purchased silk, which explains the reasoning behind why many non-legit high levels remain unbanned.
So in effect, Silkroad goes from 'Free to play' to 'Free trial'.
Just an theory anyway. >.>
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:56 am |
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people should stop complaining about being banned if their legit you don't get banned for now give it up and just say i used the no dc client
i have been playing for 2 years never once bought silk never been banned i have been using 2 computers for a staller and never been banned for over 1 year
why haven't i been banned?
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:02 am |
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Osman wrote: How come my accounts are not banned despite the fact I never bought silk and they were created since Athens came out? You're the next 
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:09 am |
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martian wrote: people should stop complaining about being banned if their legit you don't get banned for now give it up and just say i used the no dc client
i have been playing for 2 years never once bought silk never been banned i have been using 2 computers for a staller and never been banned for over 1 year
why haven't i been banned? - I created the character 2 weeks ago - Oasis server has had no issues with traffic (lately) so there is no need for a no-dc client, or buy silk for Premium. - I have not done PK2 edits - I do not use my character as a staller - I do not bot or use third-party programs - I have not bought silk, ever, on that account - I only use 1 (one) computer for playing Silkroad
Please don't start spewing that crap. I know I have not done anything incorrectly or something that I know by Joymax's rules would cause me to get banned. I made my character for leveling a few hours a day and socializing. Why would I bot a character I have no intention of making a high level (or not immediately anyway)? Do not accuse legit players of being non-legit simply because you lucked out.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:19 am |
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it's a nice theory foudre, but there are too many outliers =[ i think all we can say right now is that joymax makes mistakes on their banlists.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:37 am |
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I'm sticking with its people PK2 Editing.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:48 am |
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Yea foudre i think he used pk2 edit.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:54 am |
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There are many accounts registered, and they ban slowly. If never bought silk it's just question of time before they delete/ban it. I's just a database cleaning to save expense.
If you know sql database and sizes they grow with this much data in them and the backups ...
Sad part they got the right to do anything if there isn't a cent spent on them.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:05 am |
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martian wrote: people should stop complaining about being banned if their legit you don't get banned for now give it up and just say i used the no dc client
i have been playing for 2 years never once bought silk never been banned i have been using 2 computers for a staller and never been banned for over 1 year
why haven't i been banned? STFU how many times I need to tell. I made character recently, oonly lvl 18 never boted, comon its lvl 18. Since I made acc servers are always populated, why use no-dc then? I have 2 pc no need for MC and I still got banned. If you arent banned doeasnt mean that we all lie noob. There are no any rules, they banning players who use bots and third party programs and they made mistakes sometimes banning legits, simple as that.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:30 am |
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when joymax don't ban bots, people complain. when joymax start banning bots, people complain...making up stories. If i were joymax i would not ban any bots and let people complain. It's a free game after all and if u don't like it..quit! done. i getting tired of people keep complaining and complaining...read my first 2 sentences again.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:15 pm |
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long1 wrote: when joymax don't ban bots, people complain. when joymax start banning bots, people complain...making up stories. If i were joymax i would not ban any bots and let people complain. It's a free game after all and if u don't like it..quit! done. i getting tired of people keep complaining and complaining...read my first 2 sentences again. You would talk diferent if your acc was banned.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:25 pm |
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_Creep_ wrote: long1 wrote: when joymax don't ban bots, people complain. when joymax start banning bots, people complain...making up stories. If i were joymax i would not ban any bots and let people complain. It's a free game after all and if u don't like it..quit! done. i getting tired of people keep complaining and complaining...read my first 2 sentences again. You would talk diferent if your acc was banned. Creep you should stop posting,your post are so ignoring and stupid. OT:IMO Joymax doesnt ban people that dont buy silk,main reason is PK2edit,but if you buy silk,you can PK2 edit anything and anytime you want.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:37 pm |
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I got 2 friends that play this game for 2 years or something and they never got banned and never bought silk.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:10 am |
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I bet you use no-DC client especially during the periods before when server was damn bloody hard to login. Well, at least everyone uses it except me of course =p
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:04 am |
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foudre wrote: I've figured it out this has happened confirmed to me baro and SykoAzn and a few other people not on these forums. I think i've concretly figured it out.
Randomly a few weeks ago my alternate account was banned, it never had silk was banned at exactly 1 year old plus a few days till inspection, it never botted barotix's was over 1 year old at the time too, how ever they didn't start these bans at the time his account would have hit 1 year, so they got him once they started SykoAzn started the game almost 1 month after i did, he never bought silk, never botted, exactly one month after my alt account was banned, so was syko
this is conclusive to me that 1 year account life spans if you never buy silk, if your account is almost a year and you want to keep it hurry up and buy silk or prepare to quit or make a new charector i've 4 accounts. 1 main with some silk left. 3 stalling/storage accounts. all were inactive since Feb 2007. just logged in on all 4 of them.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:17 am |
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Im sorry to blow the bubble of all your theories but Im pretty sure JoyMax has a rule, which lets them ban accounts that never bought silk after being inactive for over a year. Meaning you havent logged in for 365 days or more. Moreover, if you botted, used nodc, edited, youre quite lucky to last a year without a ban.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:18 pm |
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long1 wrote: when joymax don't ban bots, people complain. when joymax start banning bots, people complain...making up stories. If i were joymax i would not ban any bots and let people complain. It's a free game after all and if u don't like it..quit! done. i getting tired of people keep complaining and complaining...read my first 2 sentences again. yes you have some point in that BUT they are not banning just bots, they are banning legit players aswell. sure in the past they wouldnt ban no one for like 6 months but now they are banning too much o.o
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:01 pm |
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i have vietnamese account inactive since viet server opened (very long time), i still can loggin them so there is something else ..............
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:56 pm |
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foudre wrote: I've figured it out this has happened confirmed to me baro and SykoAzn and a few other people not on these forums. I think i've concretly figured it out.
Randomly a few weeks ago my alternate account was banned, it never had silk was banned at exactly 1 year old plus a few days till inspection, it never botted barotix's was over 1 year old at the time too, how ever they didn't start these bans at the time his account would have hit 1 year, so they got him once they started SykoAzn started the game almost 1 month after i did, he never bought silk, never botted, exactly one month after my alt account was banned, so was syko
this is conclusive to me that 1 year account life spans if you never buy silk, if your account is almost a year and you want to keep it hurry up and buy silk or prepare to quit or make a new charector my accounts are 3 yrs old, i have over 20 accounts(they are stallers...lol). joymax is keeping an eye on newly account like within a yr old to current. i knnow a lot of stallers that are 1 month old and they got banned. so it is unsaved to stall now. 
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:05 pm |
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silkroad is banning on the freeloaders, all the people that are on 24/7 and don't buy silk, joymax is either going to force them out, hoping when they come bacxk they buy silk if not that open spot will hopefully return as a paying customer or a new paying customer, joymax says free to play but they will ban you if you do lol
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:31 pm |
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sparta_sword wrote: joymax says free to play but they will ban you if you do lol LOL
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:39 pm |
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[quote="CHIPS"]Here is probably how Joymax sees things:
EDIT: been warned once already for bashing on noobs, soo.. ill just let this one go
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:08 pm |
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My account and my wife's is over 2 years old. Both of our accounts are legit. Our connection is through a NAT/Firewall so to Joymax we have the same IP. Both of us have stalled overnight Both our accounts have had long inactive periods (6 months or more) Neither of us has bought silk We have not been banned.
So I'm not sure what the issue these other people are having. Perhaps we just have not met the threshold yet (if there is one). Or our accounts if they look at them are obviously played.
As to the comment that accounts that buy silk are a lot less likely to be banned. Well since Joymax is in the business to make money I can completely understand that.
Perhaps Joymax does have a formula for determining if freeloader accounts should be banned or not. It sucks but its their game and they can do what they want. They could turn all of the servers off tomorrow.
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:24 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Joymax legit bannings, the why Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:23 pm |
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ln wrote: i've 4 accounts. 1 main with some silk left. 3 stalling/storage accounts. all were inactive since Feb 2007. just logged in on all 4 of them. oh .. the 1 staller is lvl 21. 2 stallers are lvl 5.
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