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 Post subject: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:28 pm 
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so i wanted to see warrior vs int action, so i youtubed vortex (cuz that guy is a role model for many warriors, with a handful of pvp vids and whatnot) and this is what i got.

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@ 0:44 vs int spear in garms with snow shield, unfarmed using soul spear truth (lol), you survived with 100 hp. nice job either way.
@ 1:37 vs int s/s (and spear, uses two weps) in snow w00t!!!!!!!!, wait...vortex gets owned.
@ 2:33 vs int s/s with no snow -_-; , same guy as above, but you rematch him without snow to prove you can kill him...without snow. nice.
@ 2:43 vs int s/s with no snow again, random guy standing in pvp area minding his own business, and you come and daredevil him and kill him, nice turk surprise attack there.
@ 4:45 , no snow int s/s, no buffs, just got up and you kill him.

well nothing to see there in terms of int fights. So we go to the next vid looking for something impressive....


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@ 2:00 vs int spear with no snow shield -_-;
@ 3:57 vs int s/s with no snow shield -_-;
@ 4:53 vs int spear in garms with low ice, and his mag? he's got lvl 1 grasswalk lol. Oh and not to mention a +3 spear -_-; goldbot fight?
@ 6:03 vs maybe int? that sun glaive in garms started to nuke you, you killed him without snow shield, but then he owned you seconds later ... without snow shield.

the rest of that vid is him running to safezone after skins run out cuz hes got 4 hunters on his ass, tanking hunters with oblation, or fighting glaivers who kill themselves with damage return. No other int's.

We go to the next vid, still looking for an impressive INT defeat...

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this one is a littl harder, cuz its full melee (including rogue), but we're looking for a warrior vs int fight.
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@ 1:34, vs int s/s with no snow again ?? wtffff. started using axes, then y switched to xbow and killed him.
@ 1:50 vs int spear with no snow , this is getting old.

..thats it. lol. 'kay so the third vid only had 2 int fights, both without snow.
I'm sure the fourth vid will provide justice for us all.


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This is the most recent, lvl 90 vortex video added 2 weeks ago.
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@ 2:37, at long last a s/s int with snow shield that runs out in 10 seconds.
Could this be because vortex tanked the snow shield out and decided not to put it there cuz it was 1:50 seconds of boredom? or was the pvp started late long after snow was activated? who knows, either way vortex killed him when the snow ran out.

@ 3:12- 3:17 vs int s/s in snow, i dont know what happened... 3k hit, 8k crit, 600 dmg return and the int dies. The first win (in my mind) lasted all of 5 seconds.


@ 3:40 nuker runs out of snow, and you kill him with daggers without dagger desperate. Who knows what buffs you have, you got healed with group recovery and recovery division which really puts a dent on the vid since throughout the whole thing we cant see the buff bar or who's in your party.

@ 4:44 , you can see a bard and a cleric from your guild while fighting the glaiver ... theres the previous comment coming into play. Not gonna say anything else.


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Not impressed the least bit, Nitro said vortex beat nukers no prob, but this i would assume with rogue cuz i dont see shit in these videos regarding the warrior side. It should be renamed 'Vortex The Legendary Glaive Killer' cuz thats 90% of the videos, glaives dying from damage return.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:43 pm 
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wow did you get bored lol?

nice argument for ints tho ^^ my 2h doesnt do too well vs them

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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Great arguements..especially the last bit about not showing buffs. It's what most people will do anyway though. Who wants to make a vid showing themselves get owned?

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:50 pm 
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from what i see int is the one thing that can stand a 2h :p lol. and mr fudge your right 2h is a basic build just like glavie and pure int.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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I like this thread. Now someone's gonna come and say something like: "OMG what would you expect him to put the double-crit daredevil kills? (That's pure pWnAge, btw LOL ROFL) In a good video the creator posts both his wins and losses!11one!!!1!"

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EDIT: in the second video, at 6:03, that's clearly a STR. 10k high end SSE crits are only done by STR's.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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killing glaivers with 2hs aren't much of a prob, it's given warriors are great against physical damage. fight off nukers in every way, makes the game much more exciting ^^. Handicaps or higher lvl INTs, make it more challenging to battle them. That way you have your name as a warrior, yup yup indeeeeed.

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Nice post. Having Warlock and in Robes pretty much eliminates any issues I'd have with INT builds (with snow) so they're not much trouble for me unless they're being buffed by Euros. ~.~


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:18 pm 
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You do realize how old some of these videos are, correct? The first one is way old lol; I remember that pk2 edit. But It's still hard to tell at warrior vs int fights anyways judging by the last one the "strongest" legit venus player gets owned by the strongest bot lol. Now hes in robe judging by rev6? Would be a good rematch tbh.

Edit: Nvm he has his HA back on. Yes even tho the warrior vs int fight between Asyamura and Vortex isnt posted here I just used it as reference.


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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my 2h doesnt do too well vs them


Pure INTs are the easiest thing to kill for a 2H Warrior/Cleric like you. Bless > Switch to 2H or Cast 2 Absolute damage skills and switch after that > Skins when bless is out, if he is not dead by the time your skins run out, just switch to rod and shield, buff and heal yourself till his snow is out and just 1 hit him with 2H.

LULZ WAT VORTEX CANT KILL INTZ.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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When im pvping snow shield users i cant kill i use 1h sword i dont put that in my movie b/c thats just to long pvp.
Most ppl know when they pop snow i will pop skins what they dont like so i wont use if they dont use snow.
Im not using external buffs i will include buffs next vid but any1 that play on olympus knows im not using out side buffs.
I will pvp most know players of the server ints with snow shield and include everything what happens

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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warrior/lock or warrior/wiz would be the best pwn a chinese INT... thats from a lvl85 warrior/lock experience...

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what kind of a nuker pvps with no snow shield -_-

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what kind of a nuker pvps with no snow shield -_-



This Guy

He is an old guildmate, but got hacked and stopped playing sro. He had some real skills :P


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The thing that annoyed me through all those videos is the vigor flowing like normal pots.

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wolfster wrote:
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what kind of a nuker pvps with no snow shield -_-



This Guy

He is an old guildmate, but got hacked and stopped playing sro. He had some real skills :P

and as yuou can see that dude killed the warrior with no snow shield

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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wolfster wrote:
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what kind of a nuker pvps with no snow shield -_-



This Guy

He is an old guildmate, but got hacked and stopped playing sro. He had some real skills :P


He pvp'd one str char that had shit gear and was unfarmed =\

Int needs snow to live..simple fact.

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Azilius wrote:
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what kind of a nuker pvps with no snow shield -_-



This Guy

He is an old guildmate, but got hacked and stopped playing sro. He had some real skills :P


He pvp'd one str char that had shit gear and was unfarmed =\

Int needs snow to live..simple fact.

i think he is a hybrid

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Azilius wrote:
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what kind of a nuker pvps with no snow shield -_-



This Guy

He is an old guildmate, but got hacked and stopped playing sro. He had some real skills :P


He pvp'd one str char that had shit gear and was unfarmed =\

Int needs snow to live..simple fact.

Thats not quite true.
I was pvping my friend with my glaiver
my set: Garment +4/+5 Glaive 72 +6
His set: s/s both +7 prot/armor set +5
Then the fight began. I started to try to kill him while he was buffing. When hes was buffed he started to attack me. He didnt have Snow Shield and i were dead pretty soon. That is skills. And hes one of the few i pvped that could beat me. So snow shield isnt essential in pvp. You need to know ur build, not just push the buttons.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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Nice work with this thread Fudge, it looks like it took you a while.

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The thing that annoyed me through all those videos is the vigor flowing like normal pots.

Grains FTW?

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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Norain_ wrote:
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He pvp'd one str char that had shit gear and was unfarmed =\

Int needs snow to live..simple fact.

Thats not quite true.
I was pvping my friend with my glaiver
my set: Garment +4/+5 Glaive 72 +6
His set: s/s both +7 prot/armor set +5
Then the fight began. I started to try to kill him while he was buffing. When hes was buffed he started to attack me. He didnt have Snow Shield and i were dead pretty soon. That is skills. And hes one of the few i pvped that could beat me. So snow shield isnt essential in pvp. You need to know ur build, not just push the buttons.


There is no skill in sro, it's all simple point click. Did you use the 15 second magical buff? If both sets were the same including weapon you should of been able to kill him or come very close to it. Infact with a +5 set you shouldn't of died to an s/s without bleed or division.

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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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Wait till Vortex gets garm,
oh wait s/he can't.
s/he picked warrior/rogue.

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Carbunkle wrote:
my 2h doesnt do too well vs them


Pure INTs are the easiest thing to kill for a 2H Warrior/Cleric like you. Bless > Switch to 2H or Cast 2 Absolute damage skills and switch after that > Skins when bless is out, if he is not dead by the time your skins run out, just switch to rod and shield, buff and heal yourself till his snow is out and just 1 hit him with 2H.

LULZ WAT VORTEX CANT KILL INTZ.



This may be true...but who wants to watch 2 minutes of you healing yourself and kd'ing as you wait for his snow to wear off?

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wolfster wrote:
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what kind of a nuker pvps with no snow shield -_-



This Guy

He is an old guildmate, but got hacked and stopped playing sro. He had some real skills :P



closed after seeing first few seconds and he had snow on


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 Post subject: Re: Chinese INT vs. Euro Warrior Part 2
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Most warriors wont weapon switch, and therefore are pretty fail.

Even if you have only 2 weps, weapon switching rapes.

I agree, INT s/s in snow is the toughest thing for a warrior to kill.
Pretty much have to tank out the snow, skin, bless, KB KB KB and zip, skin. If you can make that you'll win Its all about crits, blocks and tanking.

PvP is strategy, not some noob spamming 3 skills. Yes, snowshield is nasty. Get over it. Battle cleric through the snow then, absolute and heal, absolute and heal (yes i know vortex is rogue sub) go 1H and dull the shit out of them. Think, dont spam cuz you think DD can kill everyone.

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1st video.
Glaiver wouldve won if vigors weren't used by the 2h.
Glaiver didn't use any so its unfair.

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The int's just don't use it, it's a waste of mp.
With or without snowshield, they will get pwned. >,>

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Glaiver wouldve won if vigors weren't used by the 2h.
Glaiver didn't use any so its unfair.

Euros have a 15 second pot delay. How is using Vigors unfair? I would agree if the Warrior was using a Cleric to heal them, but Vigors are fair play on both sides.


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I think you , Fudge, should go on Olympus , to see what Vortex is doing to the guys ...
I saw him dying only once , by som int spear, when he turned DD on , and som int spear killed him from behind.

As Vortex said , he switches to 1h/shield and tanks till the snow shield runs out (he doesnt put that on video , because it takes time)...
Thats why there are many wins against ints without snow shield.

You should seriously make a noob on Olympus , get 5 for teleport to DW , and watch some PvP there.

EDIT: Is Swifter still active on the forums? I wanna see his opinion about 2h vs Ints (He had cleric sub , and he tanked zerked blader)

No sign of Ints in this video tho
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Vortex , I think your next video , "due to popular demand" , should include more s/s fights ... from begining to the end.

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