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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:22 am 
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I don't see what this will do, they already ban people who don't bot and don't buy silk(most legits like me) and they ban normal goldbots(thats great :D ) and now there trying to say they will ban player bots, who's left? The low population of people who did buy silk and didn't bot? I don't bother with buying silks anyways i'm not to lazy that i have to buy a pet too pick things up for me and i don't need no wings to make me stronger. I smell Fail in JM plans but o well I'll have more fun on ecSRO or EVE.

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:48 am 
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Only be scared if you bot IMO

Yeah normally yes, but how many legits have been banned...? :x


0

I dont think.

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:53 am 
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rofl thats bullshit....that arent banning anyone..

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lol, legits dun buy gold, the term u'r looking for is "nonbotter". the game would be 100x better w/o botters, true story.

Yea it would be much better if you like to pay monthly... Cuz the income of JM is from the silk buying. The 75 percent of silk buyers are botter... JM would lose all their income..And as u can see JM doesnt do anything for us, legints.

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:58 am 
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From a completely fiscal POV:

..... if i owned a company like Joymax and I see a player that has bought silk and may be botting i would not ban him, even it has been on a regular basis. Let the flames begin... Lets think about it the regular silk buy is shelling out considerable dollars for digital information that costs the company basically 0 dollars to produce. If they banned all the players that botted... the servers would have like 500 players each -> the game would not make money -> company go bankrupt -> no more game at all.

From a Botters POV: (I am not one, but wish I could use multi client, but don't): I will continue to bot and buy silk and if I get banned I will just hope to my xbox 360 or other mmorpg or possible but doubtful go legit.

From a Non-Botter POV: Its great ban the bastards...

Beauty, Evil, Right, Wrong, Moral, Immoral---> it all boils down to your POV!

:D wow I must have been bored!

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
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TOloseGT wrote:
lol, legits dun buy gold, the term u'r looking for is "nonbotter". the game would be 100x better w/o botters, true story.


That's why i said "legits".

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:25 pm 
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justme08 wrote:
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Only be scared if you bot IMO

Yeah normally yes, but how many legits have been banned...? :x


It's not such a bad thing, as a legit, to be banned. What matters is whether or not the company has a process to unban that account, and how easy that process is.

I had a job one time several years ago that was coming to an end (temp job). After I left, a friend of mine (who also worked there full time) told me that when he got back from vacation, he found that his Active Directory domain account was blocked. He has the same last name as I do, and therefore was listed immediately under me in the Active Directory listing. One of the sysadmins mistakenly locked his account instead of mine.

If you're legit and get banned, just work to get the account back.

Disclaimer: This is assuming Joymax is willing to work with you to get the account back. I know they have done so in the past (I remember they helped SuicideGrl a while back), and with the more active 'war on bots' and everything lately, they may be more willing to do so.

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From a completely fiscal POV:

..... if i owned a company like Joymax and I see a player that has bought silk and may be botting i would not ban him, even it has been on a regular basis. Let the flames begin... Lets think about it the regular silk buy is shelling out considerable dollars for digital information that costs the company basically 0 dollars to produce. If they banned all the players that botted... the servers would have like 500 players each -> the game would not make money -> company go bankrupt -> no more game at all.


It depends on where Joymax gets most of their money. Do they get more profit from silk sales, or more from license fees when they sell licenses to other companies to run cSRO, vSRO and other varieties? Maybe they make most of their money from advertising. Maybe silk sales only account for a small percentage of total company profit.

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:39 pm 
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I highly doubt it... I would say silk is the best form of steady income.. License agreements can be made as one time payments or as percentages over the life of the game <-- the best way for the parent company. However, skill is just so damn cheap for the company to produce! It is as close to a 100% profit as a company can get!

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:13 pm 
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One thing i dn't focking understand....

Why do people think thta only botters buy silk?

Who the fock came up with that?

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
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heroo wrote:
One thing i dn't focking understand....

Why do people think thta only botters buy silk?

Who the fock came up with that?


Nobody ever said that. What was said is that the botting population as a whole easily outbuys the legit community when it comes to silk.

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
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if your best friend told you to just off a bridge would u?
yes.

if joymax told you to jump off a bridge would u?
WTF is a bridge? FACK MATHER SISTER OR I EAT FATER. OR YOU ME 10K PLYZZSSS, durka durka ect. ect..

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
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A level 8x regulat silk buyer has already been banned on odin....So that pretty much proves most of what this topic claims is wrong.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=28654

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
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izmeister wrote:
A level 8x regulat silk buyer has already been banned on odin....So that pretty much proves most of what this topic claims is wrong.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=28654


how do you know he bought silk? Also, do they make a separate punishment list for charge back? Not sure on that one.

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 Post subject: Re: Im scared...
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oldbladder wrote:
izmeister wrote:
A level 8x regulat silk buyer has already been banned on odin....So that pretty much proves most of what this topic claims is wrong.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=28654


how do you know he bought silk? Also, do they make a separate punishment list for charge back? Not sure on that one.


Type of bot used configures into the whole banning scheme too. The majority of people that I know that were banned [besides being non-silk buyers] used Agbot. Have yet to hear of an isrobot or sm user to get banned.

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oldbladder wrote:
izmeister wrote:
A level 8x regulat silk buyer has already been banned on odin....So that pretty much proves most of what this topic claims is wrong.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=28654


how do you know he bought silk? Also, do they make a separate punishment list for charge back? Not sure on that one.


Type of bot used configures into the whole banning scheme too. The majority of people that I know that were banned [besides being non-silk buyers] used Agbot. Have yet to hear of an isrobot or sm user to get banned.

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Type of bot used configures into the whole banning scheme too. The majority of people that I know that were banned [besides being non-silk buyers] used Agbot. Have yet to hear of an isrobot or sm user to get banned.


My friend has been using Agbot since don't know when. He bought 30 silks over the 2 years thats all. N hes still bottin... wit Agbot... lvl 7x blader... =\

Im pretty sure isro alone wont get u banned. Those who got banned must've done more.

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what the heck is sm?

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oldbladder wrote:
what the heck is sm?


Softmod. Multiclient + crack of isrobot.

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oh Softmod... I know about that. I actually know some of the people who used it, but I thought it was dead?

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oldbladder wrote:
izmeister wrote:
A level 8x regulat silk buyer has already been banned on odin....So that pretty much proves most of what this topic claims is wrong.
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=28654


how do you know he bought silk? Also, do they make a separate punishment list for charge back? Not sure on that one.


I am 100% sure he bought silk. I knew him in game.

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oldbladder wrote:
oh Softmod... I know about that. I actually know some of the people who used it, but I thought it was dead?


Account registration and the forums are done yes, but they still sell sm to those that have accounts.

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