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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:30 pm |
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MrPharmacist wrote: Been Smoking for around 17 years..started smoking weed first then cigarettes soon after. Stoped smoking weed about 3 years ago...but still take the occasional puff! Smoked Marlboro untill last year...now i roll my own smokes...lot cheeper and i had plenty of practice over the years at rolling (skining) up! I tried to give up last year but lasted 3 months...i'm week and the addiction is strong. My Father has been diagnosed with Kidney cancer which also spread to his lung..although not caused by smoking..makes me really want to quit! Quote: i have a very big issue with smokers i will literally walk up to you and either punch you in the face or take it off your hand if you are near me ( wish has got me in trouble before )
some info on it Cigarettes burn for approximately 12 minutes, but smokers usually only inhale for 30 seconds. That means for 11 minutes and 30 seconds cigarettes are spewing second-hand (sidestream) smoke into the air .
Because sidestream smoke burns at a lower temperature than inhaled smoke, it contains:
* 2 times more tar, which gums up lungs and breathing passages * 5 times more carbon monoxide, which reduces the amount of oxygen in the blood
and i cant quote atm but i read is 10 times worse almost 11 than directly smoking. the thing i hate the most is working out and some1 suddenly lighting up a smoke near me ........... wont go any further into that can you back up that statement with any facts...just sounds like total bullshit to me! and if you tried a stunt like that where i live...you would go home with a very sore face! Ive done it in school before, when we were all eating lunch some douche came up smoking blowing smoke everywhere so i grabbed his arm, took his cig and stepped on it and told him to **** off. Just annoying as ****
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:32 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:39 pm |
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MrPharmacist wrote: My doctor said smoking gives you super powers GG.
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Seriously though, it's perfectly legal in places and you would be the one commiting a crime by hitting them. Does it make it right for them to smoke beside you? No, obviously not. Yet a few seconds of second hand smoke once in a while won't kill you. You're taking it to the extreme by saying you'd punch them in the face. If it's 'all the time' then kindly ask them to smoke somewhere else, if they don't then move yourself. Until something legal happens about it you're shit out of luck. there is no such thing as an ok few seconds of second hand smoke when i dont want anyand about the legal spec of it i can say he started it and i was defending myself ,if you have some record of the issue with the person is even better. you have the upper hand when some1 is committing a crime or directly/indirectly abusing you/affecting your privacy/rights. also i dont go telling people ill punch any smokers i see in the face couse that affects your credibility
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:44 pm |
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Love wrote: blackfalcon wrote: sad part is most people who die from smoking die from second hand smoke  i have a very big issue with smokers i will literally walk up to you and either punch you in the face or take it off your hand if you are near me ( wish has got me in trouble before ) some info on it Cigarettes burn for approximately 12 minutes, but smokers usually only inhale for 30 seconds. That means for 11 minutes and 30 seconds cigarettes are spewing second-hand (sidestream) smoke into the air . Because sidestream smoke burns at a lower temperature than inhaled smoke, it contains: * 2 times more tar, which gums up lungs and breathing passages * 5 times more carbon monoxide, which reduces the amount of oxygen in the blood and i cant quote atm but i read is 10 times worse almost 11 than directly smoking. the thing i hate the most is working out and some1 suddenly lighting up a smoke near me ........... wont go any further into that looooool. Come hit me in the face, dare you. Who's smoke lasts for 12 minutes?! If I see you in real life, ill inhale then blow the shit in your fuucking face.
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:58 pm |
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Snoopy wrote: Love wrote: blackfalcon wrote: sad part is most people who die from smoking die from second hand smoke  i have a very big issue with smokers i will literally walk up to you and either punch you in the face or take it off your hand if you are near me ( wish has got me in trouble before ) some info on it Cigarettes burn for approximately 12 minutes, but smokers usually only inhale for 30 seconds. That means for 11 minutes and 30 seconds cigarettes are spewing second-hand (sidestream) smoke into the air . Because sidestream smoke burns at a lower temperature than inhaled smoke, it contains: * 2 times more tar, which gums up lungs and breathing passages * 5 times more carbon monoxide, which reduces the amount of oxygen in the blood and i cant quote atm but i read is 10 times worse almost 11 than directly smoking. the thing i hate the most is working out and some1 suddenly lighting up a smoke near me ........... wont go any further into that looooool. Come hit me in the face, dare you. Who's smoke lasts for 12 minutes?! If I see you in real life, ill inhale then blow the shit in your fuucking face. pretty confident arent you, before we even begin i have an advantage on you my lung capacity is higher .....and if you are a regular smoker trust me you arent even worth my time, you are as good as a drunk in a bar
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:08 am |
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Your aruments are lame...your nothing but a topic troll....go back under your bridge till you come up with a proper response to the thread! Quote: I'll start being nice when you stop being stupid_
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:11 am |
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@Love; Yeaa, but when you're drunk things don't hurt until the next day. I've glassed and bottled people before. Bottling doesn't really require much skill neither.  MrPharmacist
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:12 am |
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crazyskwrls wrote: eh didnt we already have a thread about this? like couple weeks ago? yup we have the same thread every month about that same thing relegion/smoking
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:12 am |
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MrPharmacist wrote: Your aruments are lame...your nothing but a topic troll....go back under your bridge till you come up with a proper response to the thread! my argument is i dont need to harm myself to support the habit of any of you, what is yours ? oh no ill be embarrassed and run to a corner, i am sure every smoker is that way troll police ....
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:17 am |
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time to bring in the facts... Quote: Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen).2 Quote: Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke. Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic, including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic ammonia and hydrogen cyanide.3 Quote: Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at work are at increased risk for adverse health effects. Levels of secondhand smoke in restaurants and bars were found to be 2 to 5 times higher than in residences with smokers and 2 to 6 times higher than in office workplaces.5 Quote: The current Surgeon General’s Report concluded that scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke. Short exposures to secondhand smoke can cause blood platelets to become stickier, damage the lining of blood vessels, decrease coronary flow velocity reserves, and reduce heart rate variability, potentially increasing the risk of heart attack.15
Quote: Secondhand smoke is especially harmful to young children. Secondhand smoke is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year, and causes 430 sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) deaths in the United States annually.9 do i need to post more? u think im full of shit, that comes from the American Lung Association, so dont think i just made that shit up need the site? http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=35422how bout some more? http://www.ocat.org/healtheffects/index.htmlhttp://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_10_2X_Secondhand_Smoke-Clean_Indoor_Air.aspi can go on...... /second hand smoke debate
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:20 am |
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Do you drive...Do you go and punch the face of drivers when they spew out exaust fumes in your face?...do you activly campain against big corporations that polute our atmosphere...do you get upset when someone farts?
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:22 am |
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MrPharmacist wrote: Do you drive...Do you go and punch the face of drivers when they spew out exaust fumes in your face?...do you activly campain against big corporations that polute our atmosphere...do you get upset when someone farts? 1. yes i drive. 2. unless you can teleport, drving is the only way to get places. 3. you have to drive to get places, you dont have to smoke 4. no 5. farts cant kill you lol
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:39 am |
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MrPharmacist wrote: Do you drive...Do you go and punch the face of drivers when they spew out exaust fumes in your face?...do you activly campain against big corporations that polute our atmosphere...do you get upset when someone farts? some1 farting near me wont give me cancer or directly hurt my health and those big corporations that "pollute" are controlled, this isnt the old days in wish you could send all the smoke you wanted into the air without any regard; or going around contaminating rivers killing every fish in it get your facts together moron, i do accept an electric plant using oil to produce electricity for my everyday life and our growth as a society under regulations but i dont accept your ignorant ass self smoking your addiction out hurting every1 around without regard you dont produce anything and no1 benefits from you, you are just a greedy excuse of human being that thinks is your right to smoke couse is your body and every1 else has to put up with it. let me guess you will tell me now that people that sell tobacco benefit from you and this puts food on their table comparing farts to second hand smoke = shows your level of education on the subject, you dont care and fck every1 else
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:41 am |
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as a good friend, if i find my friends smoking, i will tell them outright that i don't like it. but i do smoke cigars every couple of months.
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:46 am |
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TOloseGT wrote: as a good friend, if i find my friends smoking, i will tell them outright that i don't like it. but i do smoke cigars every couple of months. i tried one once and it made me really dizzy
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:47 am |
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Smoking bad, porn good
learn from the guru!
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:55 am |
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I perfer my friends and people I know to not smoke or atleast not smoke around me. But I will tolerate it if need be. I tryed it once, not my thing. I perfer gettting drunk lol....
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:59 am |
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OK
Cigarettes are sold in almost every store across the world "goverment endorsed", it is totaly legal to smoke!
we all have the warnings on the packets so we know the dangers of smoking to ourselves!
If the dangers of passive smoking get you so upset...try talking to your government representitive in your own area!
i smoke because i enjoy it...and as a free citizen...is my right!
if you have issue..go to the source of the problem...dont come and noise me up!
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:02 am |
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don't blow smoke in my nose either
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:05 am |
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I don't mind smokers smoking on their own, but its annoying when someone smokes at the bus stop/restaurant or somewhere every else has to be, you can't help but notice it. But the thing that really annoys me is when I see trying to pressure their friends into smoking even though theirs that big 'No' there; that's what really annoys me.
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:09 am |
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what if you were allergic to peanut butter but i sprayed you with peanut butter powder(lmao) and you died? its perefectly legal to eat peanut butter, but what if i killed you with it?
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:10 am |
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if u purposely sprayed peanut butter powder knowing that the guy was deadly allergic, that's i think a 2nd degree murder
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:15 am |
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Quote: I don't mind smokers smoking on their own, but its annoying when someone smokes at the bus stop/restaurant or somewhere every else has to be, you can't help but notice it. But the thing that really annoys me is when I see trying to pressure their friends into smoking even though theirs that big 'No' there; that's what really annoys me. all this aside...i hate smoking....i wish i never started! i't is the worst thing you could ever do...and is probably one of the worst addictions...but all legal same as drink! i wish i never started on cigarettes...and would like to see the day when they become ilegal!
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:17 am |
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MrPharmacist wrote: Quote: I don't mind smokers smoking on their own, but its annoying when someone smokes at the bus stop/restaurant or somewhere every else has to be, you can't help but notice it. But the thing that really annoys me is when I see trying to pressure their friends into smoking even though theirs that big 'No' there; that's what really annoys me. all this aside...i hate smoking....i wish i never started! i't is the worst thing you could ever do...and is probably one of the worst addictions...but all legal same as drink! i wish i never started on cigarettes...and would like to see the day when they become ilegal! thast the reason i'll nvr start. oft: ur av is going to give me nightmares lol
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:19 am |
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MrPharmacist wrote: Quote: I don't mind smokers smoking on their own, but its annoying when someone smokes at the bus stop/restaurant or somewhere every else has to be, you can't help but notice it. But the thing that really annoys me is when I see trying to pressure their friends into smoking even though theirs that big 'No' there; that's what really annoys me. all this aside...i hate smoking....i wish i never started! i't is the worst thing you could ever do...and is probably one of the worst addictions...but all legal same as drink! i wish i never started on cigarettes...and would like to see the day when they become ilegal! The thing about ilegalizing cigs are that it wouldn't really stop it, you know you will find some illegal way to get your cigs as long as your addicted enough. And cigs make big bucks I pity those people who play $5-$10 or more for a box of cig. lol so much for something with such a bad taste, Ill take the wine. And atleast with drinking your liver can heal, if you get lung cancer that's not going away.
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:23 am |
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MrPharmacist wrote: Quote: I don't mind smokers smoking on their own, but its annoying when someone smokes at the bus stop/restaurant or somewhere every else has to be, you can't help but notice it. But the thing that really annoys me is when I see trying to pressure their friends into smoking even though theirs that big 'No' there; that's what really annoys me. all this aside...i hate smoking....i wish i never started! i't is the worst thing you could ever do...and is probably one of the worst addictions...but all legal same as drink! i wish i never started on cigarettes...and would like to see the day when they become ilegal! that is why when some1 says is stupid you dont defend it so the stupidity doesn't spread and perhaps your children are around people who firmly agree is bad also you mentioned early that people should take the second hand smoke issue to the government and they already have that is why at least in over 70% of the united states you cant do so in public places and such
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:37 am |
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blackfalcon wrote: MrPharmacist wrote: Do you drive...Do you go and punch the face of drivers when they spew out exaust fumes in your face?...do you activly campain against big corporations that polute our atmosphere...do you get upset when someone farts? 1. yes i drive. 2. unless you can teleport, drving is the only way to get places. 3. you have to drive to get places, you dont have to smoke 4. no 5. farts cant kill you lol 1. Sure you may drive 2. You can walk / ride your bike 3. You can walk, you can ride - sure we have an option as to if we want smoke or not 4. You only want to pick on individuals for smoking. I'm pretty sure you're outnumbered. 5. If you were trapped in a room and forced to inhale methane, you can die.
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:59 am |
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Love wrote: MrPharmacist wrote: My doctor said smoking gives you super powers GG.
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Seriously though, it's perfectly legal in places and you would be the one commiting a crime by hitting them. Does it make it right for them to smoke beside you? No, obviously not. Yet a few seconds of second hand smoke once in a while won't kill you. You're taking it to the extreme by saying you'd punch them in the face. If it's 'all the time' then kindly ask them to smoke somewhere else, if they don't then move yourself. Until something legal happens about it you're shit out of luck. there is no such thing as an ok few seconds of second hand smoke when i dont want anyand about the legal spec of it i can say he started it and i was defending myself ,if you have some record of the issue with the person is even better. you have the upper hand when some1 is committing a crime or directly/indirectly abusing you/affecting your privacy/rights. also i dont go telling people ill punch any smokers i see in the face couse that affects your credibility If you spoke half readable english it might be easier to reply..anyway here goes. If you hit the person first and then the police come, you will be to blame. Violence solves nothing in this case. If it's legal to smoke and you happen to be near me I'm not moving unless asked politely. Touch me and I'd have you charged for assault. The real world hurts, but saying 'amagad gnna punch uuuu smokerzz' over the internet won't make me believe you would. FYI I don't smoke and never will, and I 100% agree with your dislike for people smoking around me, but the way you adress it is horrible and in my opinion very stupid. Also my name isn't MrPharmacist..l2quote.
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Post subject: Re: Smoking Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:16 am |
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Snoopy wrote: 5. If you were trapped in a room and forced to inhale methane, you can die. When I try to picture that in my mind, I could die laughing.
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