My stupid union mate and gold company

Refurbished · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 179 **Location:**

My stupid union mate was stupid and he bought gold from a gold selling company has been doing it for the past month, and today he bought 1 billion gold and only got paid 400 mil, and they made him wait all day and said that they didnt have it so he got mad and charged back everything he bought from them on paypal, for the past month he been buying gold from them, now hes scared hes gonna get banned.. lol im sorry im just bored.. just thought i tell you how dumb people are. you think he will get his money back? from paypal>?

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:30 am

he wont get banned, sence gold selling has nothing to do with joymax.

he will get his moneyback.

but im pretty sure the company can file suit against him.

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

but im pretty sure the company can file suit against him.

no they cant cuz its illegal to sell gold anyway
its a win win for the guys friend, in fact if you don't charge back for gold that you buy then you're stupid.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:50 am

MrFudge wrote:

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

but im pretty sure the company can file suit against him.

no they cant cuz its illegal to sell gold anyway
its a win win for the guys friend, in fact if you don't charge back for gold that you buy then you're stupid.

interesting.... :roll:

Refurbished · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 179 **Location:**

yay i made a good topic then.. I dont think he will get banned either and i think he will get all his money back.. anyone else think different?

Refurbished · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 179 **Location:**

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

he wont get banned, sence gold selling has nothing to do with joymax.

he will get his moneyback.

but im pretty sure the company can file suit against him.

how can someone that is doing something illegal and against sro policy file a law suit.. especially when they are in china and he lives in usa i think or maybe canada? like that one guy said its a win win.. i think.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:03 am

i just figured that they could because its just like if you buy something at the store. if you take it back to get your money back, your returning the item. sence hes probly not going to return the gold. i would figure the gold company has a right to try and get it back, or not give you your money back.

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

"It was my brother hacking I swear!". Just felt like saying that.

Gold companies can't really do anything since they're selling the gold which is against the tos and it isn't part of Joymax.

sparta_sword · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 249 **Location:**

how do you make a charge back anyways? through your bank or through paypal?

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:41 am

through paypal

sparta_sword · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 249 **Location:**

umm what about stuff that has nothing to do with paypal?

reason I asked is I half way signed up at emusic.com cuz I wanted my 50 free songs for buying a new sound card, well I started to sign up to recieve it and noticed that that wanted you to sign up for a monthly membership to download songs and in doing this then you will get your 50 free songs, so I was like screw that, and never finished the final steps like selecting a plan with them or confirming anything. yet beginnign of this month I noticed a charge on my card for $11.99, so I contacted them by email and never got anything back.. so I guess in a case like that you goto your bank and tell them the case and they will try to resolve the issue?

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:09 am

then ya try to work it out with your bank.

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

sparta_sword wrote:

umm what about stuff that has nothing to do with paypal?

reason I asked is I half way signed up at emusic.com cuz I wanted my 50 free songs for buying a new sound card, well I started to sign up to recieve it and noticed that that wanted you to sign up for a monthly membership to download songs and in doing this then you will get your 50 free songs, so I was like screw that, and never finished the final steps like selecting a plan with them or confirming anything. yet beginnign of this month I noticed a charge on my card for $11.99, so I contacted them by email and never got anything back.. so I guess in a case like that you goto your bank and tell them the case and they will try to resolve the issue?

You should always read the fine print. Nothing is really free.

Snoopy · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:30 am

IF Joymax did have something going with these gold companies, it will be interesting to see if he does get banned in the next week, or possibly bot ban.

If he doesn't, I'm not going to commend him on his work, because the fact he intended on buying gold, and had been over the past month is against SRO T&C. Though it is good to see a goldbot company lose out.

jtryp · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 22 **Location:**

Tons of people ccf gold and botcards from these companys all the time joymax never bans them so they either have nothing to do with those companys or don't care enough to ban for it. The don't bother to ban people who bot a char just to ccf astral/immo for their mains either and that's easily traceable so who knows. At least they didn't used to, haven't talked to my friend that used to do all this stuff for over a year now.

loveisintheair · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 352 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

but im pretty sure the company can file suit against him.

no they cant cuz its illegal to sell gold anyway
its a win win for the guys friend, in fact if you don't charge back for gold that you buy then you're stupid.

Last time I checked, there is no "law" on the issue of selling virtual items. Don't mix "illegal" as in "state/country law" and "illegal" as in "against a game's rules".

Selling the gold was a "transaction".

Despite that though, I doubt gold companies sue their customers (for many other reasons).

ping_lo · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 911 **Location:**

Refurbished wrote:

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

he wont get banned, sence gold selling has nothing to do with joymax.

he will get his moneyback.

but im pretty sure the company can file suit against him.

how can someone that is doing something illegal and against sro policy file a law suit.. especially when they are in china and he lives in usa i think or maybe canada? like that one guy said its a win win.. i think.

Um hi. LOL where did you get the idea that SROs gold botters are from china? It may be true for WOW but in SRO it is not the case at all. Most of these companies buy from your friends and neighbors and are based in europe canada and the USA. Still they can't do a thing as has been said they are breaking rules etc themselves.

HBblade · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:30 pm

most the gold company will be able to do is put ur gayfriend's char, site username, paypal username, email, etc...on a blacklist to not do business with

he could probably just make another paypal acct & rescam the gold company again...y dont we all do that, so they go out of biz, XD

monkey. · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 142 **Location:** Life

:O funny that you can trick gold companies like that. Well its their fail. Would be not fair, but well they cant do anything about it. Would be fun if some guy buy few billions of gold and charge back his money lol.

fangyuan · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 120 **Location:** Internet

ping_lo wrote:

Refurbished wrote:

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

he wont get banned, sence gold selling has nothing to do with joymax.

he will get his moneyback.

but im pretty sure the company can file suit against him.

how can someone that is doing something illegal and against sro policy file a law suit.. especially when they are in china and he lives in usa i think or maybe canada? like that one guy said its a win win.. i think.

Um hi. LOL where did you get the idea that SROs gold botters are from china? It may be true for WOW but in SRO it is not the case at all. Most of these companies buy from your friends and neighbors and are based in europe canada and the USA. Still they can't do a thing as has been said they are breaking rules etc themselves.

Hey.

Not a single gold farmer comes from the US / Canada / Europe for Silkroad atleast. Now I know that you will say, that you met Playerbots which have said that they run goldbots, and sell gold afterwards, right? That may be true, but these players are nothing, I define goldfarmer as in a guy who runs 200 chars on each server or more, there may be playerbots which run 4-5 extra chars, but that's not called goldfarming. They maybe sell 100m monthly or something, to buy a prem or something like that. The main goldfarmers are from china, and they are nice, remember, no one forces anyone to buy gold, just because there is gold, doesn't mean that you need to buy it, you as in everyone who buys gold(i know you don't). Most playerbots that say that they run goldbots just want to sound cool, etc. Every single gold company for sro is located in China. If you can speak and understand chinese, you can ask an goldseller something in chinese, and you will see that every one of them speaks it.

@Refurbished

To answer your question, No. Nothing will happen to your mate, tell him that he should be ashamed of himself for doing something like that.

@HBblade
Hey CLT. :wink:

-.- · **Posted:** Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:27 pm

um... you cant even file a suit without paying taxes... :S and gold companies don't pay them lol

spyboy1o1 · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 522 **Location:**

hmm i think once i get some money imma go buy 100mil and then chargeback just to get back at them for making my pc crash countless times doe to server traffic

twistedorgy · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 344 **Location:**

Wow..That would be a good tactic to just rip off all the gold bots so much that they give up lol.

ping_lo · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 911 **Location:**

fangyuan wrote:

Hey.

Not a single gold farmer comes from the US / Canada / Europe for Silkroad atleast. Now I know that you will say, that you met Playerbots which have said that they run goldbots, and sell gold afterwards, right? That may be true, but these players are nothing, I define goldfarmer as in a guy who runs 200 chars on each server or more, there may be playerbots which run 4-5 extra chars, but that's not called goldfarming. They maybe sell 100m monthly or something, to buy a prem or something like that. The main goldfarmers are from china, and they are nice, remember, no one forces anyone to buy gold, just because there is gold, doesn't mean that you need to buy it, you as in everyone who buys gold(i know you don't). Most playerbots that say that they run goldbots just want to sound cool, etc. Every single gold company for sro is located in China. If you can speak and understand chinese, you can ask an goldseller something in chinese, and you will see that every one of them speaks it.

@Refurbished

To answer your question, No. Nothing will happen to your mate, tell him that he should be ashamed of himself for doing something like that.

@HBblade
Hey CLT. :wink:

Hmmm nice that you can redefine yourself to be right. When in fact you are still wrong on that issue. Just because someone is less egregious does not make them not a gold farmer.(yay double negative!) And many player bots run way more than 4-5 extra char but W/E. Playing the malay version of PW I had occasion to contact some of these gold selling companies on legitimate business. Though as soon as a better alternative came up I stopped using those companies even for legitimate business. As for being in china I find that odd as when I had to take a call from them to verrify who I was it came from the UK. Every time I talked to a rep he had a distinctive UK accent. I even got a rep or two who had a rather heavy cockney accent. I find it astounding that they can't teach support workers in India to speak with clear english, yet the chinese can not only do that but mimic UK accents.

Detective · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 219 **Location:**

Goes to show how stupid they can be..... Paying only half the amount of gold when the full amount of payment has been made. Who wouldn't be in the right mind to chargeback all of it? I say it's all their fault for commiting to the customer when they don't have the stock on hand, nothing wrong with charging back because if you don't then you will become a victim yourself.

fangyuan · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 120 **Location:** Internet

ping_lo wrote:

fangyuan wrote:

Hey.

Not a single gold farmer comes from the US / Canada / Europe for Silkroad atleast. Now I know that you will say, that you met Playerbots which have said that they run goldbots, and sell gold afterwards, right? That may be true, but these players are nothing, I define goldfarmer as in a guy who runs 200 chars on each server or more, there may be playerbots which run 4-5 extra chars, but that's not called goldfarming. They maybe sell 100m monthly or something, to buy a prem or something like that. The main goldfarmers are from china, and they are nice, remember, no one forces anyone to buy gold, just because there is gold, doesn't mean that you need to buy it, you as in everyone who buys gold(i know you don't). Most playerbots that say that they run goldbots just want to sound cool, etc. Every single gold company for sro is located in China. If you can speak and understand chinese, you can ask an goldseller something in chinese, and you will see that every one of them speaks it.

@Refurbished

To answer your question, No. Nothing will happen to your mate, tell him that he should be ashamed of himself for doing something like that.

@HBblade
Hey CLT. :wink:

Hmmm nice that you can redefine yourself to be right. When in fact you are still wrong on that issue. Just because someone is less egregious does not make them not a gold farmer.(yay double negative!) And many player bots run way more than 4-5 extra char but W/E. Playing the malay version of PW I had occasion to contact some of these gold selling companies on legitimate business. Though as soon as a better alternative came up I stopped using those companies even for legitimate business. As for being in china I find that odd as when I had to take a call from them to verrify who I was it came from the UK. Every time I talked to a rep he had a distinctive UK accent. I even got a rep or two who had a rather heavy cockney accent. I find it astounding that they can't teach support workers in India to speak with clear english, yet the chinese can not only do that but mimic UK accents.

Hey. We're not talking about PW, right? Like I have said, you can simple google for "Silkroad Online Gold", open 10 sites, join livechat/add them to msn, and ask them from where they are, every one will tell you malaysia/china, or just start talking in chinese. Playerbots are not goldfarmers, goldfarmers live from goldfarming, do you really believe any single playerbot lives from goldfarming? I doubt it. Playerbots do sell gold like I have stated before when as example they need a prem, or something else, but I wouldn't call them goldfarmers, since their main priority isn't to farm gold, but to annoy other users and get a bigger e-peen. There's not a single playerbot that runs any massive amount of goldbots(30+), most invite goldbots to their guild and act as they run them, just about e-peen.

DeathBeforeDishonor · **Posted:** Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:45 am

I say we get everyone to buy out there stock on every server on same day.
Then charge back, ROFL. That'd be hilarious.

Rumai · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 369 **Location:** ;)

2 topics about almost the same topic?

BalkanFanaticS · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 768 **Location:**

Refurbished wrote:

My stupid union mate was stupid and he bought gold from a gold selling company has been doing it for the past month, and today he bought 1 billion gold and only got paid 400 mil, and they made him wait all day and said that they didnt have it so he got mad and charged back everything he bought from them on paypal, for the past month he been buying gold from them, now hes scared hes gonna get banned.. lol im sorry im just bored.. just thought i tell you how dumb people are. you think he will get his money back? from paypal>?

he'll get his mony FO SHO if he filled the complaint properly .

XesoS · **Posted:** Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:07 pm

ye Right "My Friend" lol

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