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 Post subject: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:24 pm 
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So heres my idea, ive tested it and it seems to work. Basically, get your friend to bring a lvl 1 char, or if you have 2 PC's, bring a lvl 1 char to your grinding spot and make an exp share party with him. Party mobs will spawn, and because hes so low, he wont take much exp off you. But more importantly, because the average level of both party members are below the level of the mobs you are grinding on, you will get 100% bonus exp from all party mobs.

I tested this, and this is what I found:
With a normal mob, in an exp dist, I got 1613 exp
With a normal mob, in an exp share with the noob I got 1540 exp
(Not much of a loss)

With a party mob, in an exp dist, I got 6053 exp
With a party mob, in an exp share with the noob I got 11560 exp
(Almost double exp)

I tested this again, grinding for 20minutes in an exp share with the noob, and in an exp dist. With the exp share, I gained 0.31%, and in a exp dist I gained 0.22%. A significant difference.

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:28 pm 
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Puma60 wrote:
So heres my idea, ive tested it and it seems to work. Basically, get your friend to bring a lvl 1 char, or if you have 2 PC's, bring a lvl 1 char to your grinding spot and make an exp share party with him. Party mobs will spawn, and because hes so low, he wont take much exp off you. But more importantly, because the average level of both party members are below the level of the mobs you are grinding on, you will get 100% bonus exp from all party mobs.

I tested this, and this is what I found:
With a normal mob, in an exp dist, I got 1613 exp
With a normal mob, in an exp share with the noob I got 1540 exp
(Not much of a loss)

With a party mob, in an exp dist, I got 6053 exp
With a party mob, in an exp share with the noob I got 11560 exp
(Almost double exp)

I tested this again, grinding for 20minutes in an exp share with the noob, and in an exp dist. With the exp share, I gained 0.31%, and in a exp dist I gained 0.22%. A significant difference.

Mehhhh,nice but...i dont wanna have a lv 1 char near to me when im expign,it would make me sick xD like those noobs who collect items in roc mt or karakoram...i hate em xD


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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:29 pm 
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Yeah it's nice, but is the pot usage on pt mobs worth it : )

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:33 pm 
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Well, pot usage is the least of my worries tbh :)

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Well, pot usage is the least of my worries tbh :)


Not if you're low on gold.

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
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[SW]XMoshe wrote:
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Well, pot usage is the least of my worries tbh :)


Not if you're low on gold.


If your 70+, chances are you can afford to spend a few mill more on pots.

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:39 pm 
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is it more sp exp. too??


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Genocide wrote:
is it more sp exp. too??


Hmm dunno yet, gimmie 1min and il tell you :P

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:43 pm 
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Genocide wrote:
is it more sp exp. too??

ehem...if you got more experience ,u get more sp exp too...


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:54 pm 
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Ur doing the PT mobs on ur own then ?
hay :P

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:55 pm 
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XCaosX wrote:
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is it more sp exp. too??

ehem...if you got more experience ,u get more sp exp too...


Caos is right. 2964 SP with noob in exp share, 1569 SP in a full exp dist.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:37 pm 
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Heard about this but never tested... *runs off to test*

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This is old.. if the parties average level is lower than that of the mobs your fighting you get double exp for a pt mob kill.
I'm pretty sure that if the parties average is 11 levels lower it's the best exp gain.
Like eight level 77 euros partying on rocky's would be best, correct me if I'm wrong.
Or maybe 7 level 90s and one level 1.... party average = 78.87 then, not 11 levels lower but you can kill a lot faster at 90 so yeah.


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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:45 pm 
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ya this is already known.. my guild and union members put lvl 1s in the power lvl partys to get like 14 sp per kill

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
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Mousetrap wrote:
This is old.. if the parties average level is lower than that of the mobs your fighting you get double exp for a pt mob kill.
I'm pretty sure that if the parties average is 11 levels lower it's the best exp gain.
Like eight level 77 euros partying on rocky's would be best, correct me if I'm wrong.
Or maybe 7 level 90s and one level 1.... party average = 78.87 then, not 11 levels lower but you can kill a lot faster at 90 so yeah.


The gap between the average level of all members in the party and the mob level is irrelevant, as long as it is lower than the mobs you are fighting, you get 100% exp. Whether the average while grinding on lvl 90 mobs is 50, or 89, you will still get 100% exp bonus from all party mobs.

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:32 pm 
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Tbh this is pretty well known but GJ nonetheless =D


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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
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Doesnt work on csro as I heard, there's no such thing as a 11 lvl limit there..

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
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i've heard about it for powerleveling, but i never thought of using it for normal grinding :P

but i can't do it anyway... don't have 2 pc's and i can't get a lv 1 in the caves anyway :(

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:46 pm 
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This already applies if you don't have a noob in your pt, if the mobs you are fighting are equal or above your lvl


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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:14 pm 
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old, can you say 80 cap news?

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
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old, can you say 70 cap news?


fixed :wink:
maybe even 60 cap too


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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:56 pm 
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x_iCe_x wrote:
old, can you say 70 cap news?


fixed :wink:
maybe even 60 cap too


Pt mobs came out during 80 cap.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:59 pm 
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i do same with a lv 20 bard for guard tambour + horse + extra inventory room

its like a silk pet but lazier lol

you can even set up remote access to basement computer so you dont have to walk down there :D lol


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Azilius wrote:
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old, can you say 70 cap news?


fixed :wink:
maybe even 60 cap too


Pt mobs came out during 80 cap.
:roll:


And that they changed beyond 11 levels you start losing exp during 80cap.. Before it was just you gain a max exp and thats it which made plvling wolves back then.. easier. Straight from level 1 you were at penons. lol

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Doesn't have to be a level 1...

If I am powerleveling at Sonar (I'm 76) and the person I am powerleveling is 40-45 I will join one more of similar level to lower the average and the exp/sp doubles for Party Mobs not Regulars. If my friend Level 85 powerlevels us then we have to add three people and not two.

Basically, you get the best sp/exp when the average level of full party is lower then the mob level.


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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
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Mehhhh,nice but...i dont wanna have a lv 1 char near to me when im expign,it would make me sick xD like those noobs who collect items in roc mt or karakoram...i hate em xD


Those "noobs" are doing really good job in my opinion, the way they collect gold/tablets is even better than spamming "10k please". They "work" not like the ones - the real noobs - who begg and spamm exchange you everywhere.
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A friend was grinding on this way, he logged on both his and his kid's (~Lv.8 ) character and made good XP with a sun glaive on PT mobs.

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 Post subject: Re: 100% Exp WITHOUT Any Gold Ticket/Premium?
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On my 87 Glavier I would get a level 20 bard and a level 30 bard. One uses Guard Tambour and the other one does the phy dmg increase buff. Since I live by myself I have two laptops (My friend is lending me one) and I have my desktop. Its awesome to get 20% phy dmg absorbtion + 10% phy dmg increase.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:35 am 
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This i nothing new, i knew this a couple months after euro undate.

Just the same process for ong pfarming to get double exp/sxp, basiclly the average lvl of the party as to be lower then the mob your killing to get double exp/sxp.

e.g. You have a party of 8:- Lv 90 and 7 Lv 45s.
So it would be 45x7=315, 315+90=405, 405/8=50, So average lvl of party is Lv 50 so you would go and kill Penons/Sonars.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:07 am 
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Is this a bug from JM? Never heard JM say anything about +100 exp...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:00 am 
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I thought most peeps would know this already considering 80 cap has been out for over a year now.

Most of you party grind on this forum so wouldnt you of noticed the exp you are getting is alot more than if you were grinding alown ??

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