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I was thinking of going hybrid ice blader. I'd go full str till 30, then 2:1 till 60. Then go pure str for 10 lvls, then 2:1 for 10 and so on...I posted this in another thread, but most likely not alot of people looked.

Anyways, I'm farming right now and have 122k, I calculated that I need at least 148k to get all my skills and maxed to 60. My friend [Gloss/Eliminates] is farming/plvling me to 60 anyway.

I wanna use ice imbue, as I'm going to be hybrid the damage shouldn't be too bad. And I don't do PvP or jobbing, only PvE. I was thinking of taking ice and bicheon to 90 and keep fire and lightning at 60. I think that it should work, as hybrids are doing very good nowadays.

And with light at 60, I get 15% magical and 59% or so moving speed, which is good enough. With fire at 60 I get 7% physical and around 40 mag defense? I'm not sure. I'm going to be wearing armor as it looks really awesome at 7D.

Gimme your opinions, will it work?

Well first I'm asking myself why you won't pvp..no pvp,no jobbing,no guild/fortress war ? i don't think that this will be any fun nor that you will be able to lvl till 90 without those things which make fun...exept you would be botting (which i really dont think;))

but well yea..i guess this Build will work out..you damage will be pretty good because you are hybrid and i guess with ice and a good equip+high br shield you shield ndefinitely be able to tank a lot..you will also be able to use 40% or higher snow shield which makes you alot stronger imo..

so yea..do it

Well, I hate PvP and jobbing, I enjoy staying in on a Saturday the whole day, grinding. I think it's fun =D I PvP rarely, mainly because I don't like wasting potions. I use them very sparingly.

The problem is, as I said I'm getting plvl to lvl 60, so I won't have any money to buy good equips. I think I only have around 5 mil or so right now, I bought a so-so armor set already. Lvl 60 +3 blade and shield. Bad crit and BR, shitty blues >.< Same as my armor it's mostly 2nd tier, and a bit 3rd. I pimped my chest a bit though, as I will have that item for the longest. But I don't think money will be too big of a problem, all I need is money for pots, which is around 500k - 700k a day. Not sure exactly as I've never tried this build before.

go 90%phy balance naked / 90 ice bich force 30 light
u will have enough mp for snow shield

90 ice/bich/force and 30 light is too...common. I want a unique build. Something you've never seen before. Besides, I need the extra magical dmg, therefore I need fire. And since I'll be wearing armor, I need speed, therefore I need light. But 90% naked doesn't seem too bad, I'll go on nivlam and see how much hp I would have =D

Edit* 90% phy balance is almost the same as my build. But only mine's more unique =]

just one thing to point out and this was said many times to ANDYCOOL... if you wanted a unique build... it shouldn't be said here HENSE it being unique... but good luck with the build... Ice imbune + blade i'm not too sure... never seen many hybrids but i guess it would work

I strongly reccomend you don't take 90 ice over 90 fire.
Damage is gonna suck hard even as hybrid.. But yeah give
it a go, tell me how its goes =P

you could go 90bich/90ice/90fire/30light

but 70 ice and rest into light would probably be better, nothing at 90 ice really except higher nuke/snow shield, the guard doesnt give as much between then so unless you just want imbue you wont need 90 ice

and you are hybrid, better to get light up too for mag bonus

i just dont like it. too much cold for a str.based hyb.
that probably would be great for a s/s hybrid, but not for a blader.
im afraid your dmg even for grinding will be too damn low and besides u r kinda tank already, why more defense?

but if you feel it will worth the effort and u may have fun with it, go ahead and tell us hows it going

Assuming I go 90 fire 90 bicheon 70 ice and 50 light...Why pick 50 light over 60 light? Besides, I'm not a "fire" kinda guy. =]



Personally, I really like ice. It's not as weak as people think it is. Ice blader is kind of like a bard, everyone underestimates it. Even though it's pretty good. And extra physical defense can't hurt, at 60+ only a few mobs use magical based attacks, and I don't have to grind at those since other mobs the same lvl use physical based attacks. And I don't think grinding will be too hard, I'll never die so I won't have to waste time going all the way back to grinding spot. Anyway, I'll give it a shot and tell you guys how it goes =] I'll be 60 in about 2-3 weeks. Patience.

Guys, note that this is a PvE build.

PvE wise, never die anyway as a blader....and you can freeze stuff which fcks up KD's. For the PvE blader, you're basically a PvP blader.

Only wierd PvE build imo is pach/light/ice and either 70:70 or 5:1 INT bow.

To be honest, I've never liked KD anyway. I don't think it's manly to stab someone while they're on the ground
I'd have the KD skills, but wouldn't use them often at all. Maybe only for PT mobs and Giants.

your grind will be slow and painful with ice imbue.

Honestly, go fire bich light, but get light imbue to aggro extra monsters. Plus final light imbue is nice looking too.



Bladers need all the power they can get their attack power isn't high enough to take the weakest imbue as well.

But as I said (I think) I'd be hybridized, that will make up for the damage. Won't it?

not with ice imbue. even pure nukers hit for shit damage with ice imbue (compared to light or fire)

Go hybrid with light imbue imo for pve. Also maxing light + fire gives max mag and phys damage increases giving you faster killing. You really do not need the defense or the freezing of ice.

I can just get 2 imbues if I want I'd be farmed anyway lol. But I want to at least give it a try. If my damage sucks I'll just get another imbue and dlvl ice to 30.

Would work the best imo.

Still I reccomend fire/light/bich 30 ice.

it will maximize the potential of your build....but you'll have to decide on prot or garm.

Garm will make you a very strong INT tanker, but vulnerable to warriors/rogues/glaivers/bowers.
Prot will make you decent vs. INT but will be easier to kill by high damage builds (spear/wizard).


I had a 90% str hybrid blader (no longer own that char T-T, sharing info ftl) got him to 78 with 73 bich/fire/light and like 30 ice and it worked very well. Until ppl started to overuse the special pillspamming I could kill 80 FF glaive's and bows and still could tank sun weapons half decently with a +5 set.

Pillspam kind of ruins bladers.
If i'd make a chinese it'd probably be a pure str or 90% hybrid str blader and make a garm and armor set to fight
At cap you do nice damage and have 4 stabs. 100 cap will be the chinese blader cap in terms of chinese. New chain adds dull fear and some other effects, a higher lvl of summit and depth for more power when you need it, 4 stabs too. Im not sure if you get any other new skills besides the 100 chain, probably do.

I think you will need more int. You will have no problem going over an enemy 's physical defense. But the worst for hybrid is when you just barely CANNOT go over the enemy 's magic defense. If this is the case all your investments into int will be wasted, since you won't get bonus damage for them. In fact, you will deal less damage than a full str because your physical damage wont' be as high. Yes you will get extra mp but trust me you want that extra damage.

Bottom line is, make sure your magic damage goes a GOOD distance above the magical defense of players at your level. Ask your similar level guild-mates (full STRs, hybrids, nukers) for reference, and see how much int you need.

And consider getting force too. Its hexes works super well with hybrids by lowering the enemy defenses, allowing both your phy and mag damage to go over the enemy defense with ease. Not to mention the passive mp increase helps fuel your Ice Shield.

I am building a new char with this build also. Level 50ish now. From experience, you can expect to take out a mob 2-3 levels above you with the two combos. You would need a good blade for both phy and mag damage.

Grinding off mass in DW cave is one of the greatest pleasure in Silkroad ONLINE. For that reason, leveling up and leaving the cave is still my biggest regrets from my to do list. If you really love to grind, I recommend my lost love, DonWhang Cave. I like to add that Chin Tomb, level 100, will also bring that excitement back. Also, it's nice to hear someone out there likes to grind off the entire Saturday and Sunday I once used to... (two thumbs up and a smirk from me, (Xian)Mishika)

With Bicheon tree attached to your build, "Tsume" will definitely can tank OFF Earth Ghost that surrounds you as far as your monitor can stretch. Your plan for STR and INT will vary as much as you are indecisive now. Whatever the ratio maybe,
* HYBRID build will help you survive any grinding days, but
* Pure STR build with high phy. def. gears will shield you from all types of physical attacks, and
* Pure INT builds with high mag. def. gears will protect you from all types of magical nukes in the cave.

Any build that you choose will determine what type of monsters you grind. But, ultimately, when you find your favorite spot, you want to freeze that sweet STR to INT ratio and keep that grinding-nectar. I, also, recommend finding/creating the best gear that you can afford, and, hopefully, you can walk off Yang-Yun, the herbalist, with 1 stack of 50x HP pots with a full page of all MP pots and get ready for a happy day of hardcore-mass-meat-blender-grinding day.

Hope you find this comment helpful...

(Xian)Mishika

I can't wait to grind in the cave =] But anyway, there's only those mask things that use magical attack. Instead I can fight those other lvl 69/70 mobs. Right now, I have the best gear that I can afford with my limited amount of money. A few +3 items, a few int and str there. Not too bad I'd say. Btw, I was thinking of staying in the cave until lvl 7x =]

But, what do you think about the ice imbue idea? I've had a ice blader before and back at 60/70 cap they pwned. Why would that be different today? Even though I was only 4x and pure str, I could kill most mobs with a combo.

P.S. Grinding is so much fun =] I can't get enough of it.
P.P.S. The comment was very helpful, I value your opinion.

Ice imbue have less values if you are comparing just the imbue itself with fire or light. Remember, Ice class just isn't as an imbue.

>> Here is an analogy:
>> "A tree stands tall, skinny, wide, or short. If you can count all the roots and the longest root under the earth, you can tell what the tree looks like above the ground"

What I am saying is a question to you, "What values do you have with ICE tree when compared to FIRE or LIGHT tree as a whole?" If you can compare the chosen trees with a value of all the skills you used in each tree, you can decide on the ICE/FIRE/LIGHT is most desirable to you.

(Xian)Mishika

Well, most desirable is of course Ice. But as others have stated, Fire or Light might be a better choice. And Ice brings back some good memories for me, I know it's silly. But that's one of the main reasons I'm picking Ice.

The value of Ice as a whole imo is greater than the other trees. You might not have lots of buffs, but the buff you do have is very good, and the imbue gives the best effect.

I think the benefits of fire and lighting is pretty obvious, so I won't need to talk about them.

Ice imbue is good for froze bite and freezing people. Froze bite slows down the movement of the enemy. Movement means walking, buffing, attacking and nuking. If the enemy casted a nuke during froze bite, the nuke will come out slowly even if the froze bite effect is removed 1 second later. Freezing is pretty much a standing knockdown, stopping the enemy while allowing you and your allies to use any attack and nuke on the target. Freezing an enemy will also stop the attack or nuke that the enemy was using.

The down side of ice is that its damage is low, around 7% less overall damage than fire. Another down side is that freezing only have a 5% chance of happening. But with the multi hit blade combos the chances are not too bad.

Also if you want to max ice, you build should have enough mp to fuel a high level Ice Shield. If you don't then it is kind of a waste.

I think I can use around 30-40% snow shield. Most of my gear adds +3/+4 int which is pretty good. In total around 25 extra int and 15 str >.< I'd have almost 4k mp if not more with that. I think that will enable me to use snow shield. But the question is, do I really need it? I mean, I don't think a giant or party monster is going to kill me with 500 damage when I have over 7k hp. But I'll get snow shield anyway - Just in Case.

eh

if its not for pvp, then who cares do whatever you want

Ok guys, I'm getting plvl now. In a week or two I'll be lvl 60.

Go bow if your gonna go str hybrid with ice.

But if you want blade I think that build will fail for pvp and really fail for pve.
Like wtf bladers are TANKS just use fire for more damage and kill faster..

wit my blader I tanked like mad so what's the point of 90 ice ._.

Ice bladers < Fire blader.

Ice bladers did extremely well during 60/70 cap, why should that be any different today? And bladers are not tankers, they shouldn't be in a party anyway. Chinese is all about soloing. There for my build will be good for PvE.

Anyway, I can't go bow now. It's too late as I've already lvld Bicheon to 3x. And I don't want to go through the pain of dlvling all of it just for a bit of range (pacheon). I think I've stated this before in one of my previous posts: I had a ice blader before at 70 cap, he did very well. Could kill most mobs with Evil Cut Blade + Combo. And he was pure str, I'd be hybridized therefore my damage would be much greater.

And also I've stated this before: If ice imbue doesn't work out for me, I'd just leave ice at 60 and take fire and bicheon to 90.

And by the way, I won't need to tank. Maybe a giant and a few normal mobs max. I hate partying as Chinese is a soloing build, therefore I won't need to tank party mobs.

You know nothing. *sigh*
I find it shocking you had a lvl 70 blader but don't even know its a tanker.
that's why it has a sheild.

You do relies that everytime the cap increases the skill cap is still 300 right?
At cap 70.
70 blade
70 ice
70 fire
70 light
20 something else.
= 300 so during 70 cap ice bladers were perfectly fine since they had fire max for the damage and mag def.

now lets see 90 cap
90 blade
90 ice
60 fire
60 light
=300
OR
90 blade
90 ice
90 light or 90 fire
30 something.
=300

and each cap increase a mastery is gonna decrease.

Now do you see? If you choose the first option of 90 cap your damage sucks.
if you choose option 2 with 90 light your damage sucks if you choose it with 90 fire 30 lightning you wont have phantom and slow speed.

So what am saying is Ice is pure defensive cause when they freeze or frost bite you have time to heal. But the thing is Bladers are tanks they have shield to increase both phy def and mag def AND on top of that they have block. So what's the point on wasting your skill points on ice when it gives lower damage and phy def when you have way more then enough being a blader.

so if you get ice i find it a waste. i would just get 20 ice for 20% snow sheild.
and since you mainly pve Fire is better kill them faster.

That's why you see more bladers using fire for the damage and mag def.

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