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Is the cap 100+ the end of legits?
Yes. No way to lvl or farm like botters can do. 24%  24%  [ 33 ]
No. Legits will never end. 30%  30%  [ 42 ]
Sro already died. 46%  46%  [ 64 ]
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I just wanted to point out, even though no one really wants to hear it, Venus is currently the legit haven. There are still bots there, just like on any server, but not in the mass amount like on the other servers. Also, I wanted to point out that party grinding is much much faster then soloing as a bot, so most of the legit's get up to level really quickly. The end cap doesn't matter, because those who grind their ticket in a fully functioning 8 man party can achieve it in a matter of weeks.

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Why do you say its hard to level to 90? I did it in a week and a half with my wizard (share party, only grinded gt etc.).. 100 will take 2-3 weeks - max.


Right, ppl are used to go out , and keep social Contact with Others . Not Sitting behind his PC 24/7 .

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Why would it be impossible to bot in chi tomb?

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Why would it be impossible to bot in chi tomb?

Because of the size and floors, as well as the obstacles/puzzles/barriers in the tomb already, but w/e BloodyBlade clearly has a better understanding then I because I have never seen a lvl100 bot in the tomb.. :)

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I just wanted to point out, even though no one really wants to hear it, Venus is currently the legit haven. There are still bots there, just like on any server, but not in the mass amount like on the other servers. Also, I wanted to point out that party grinding is much much faster then soloing as a bot, so most of the legit's get up to level really quickly. The end cap doesn't matter, because those who grind their ticket in a fully functioning 8 man party can achieve it in a matter of weeks.

yeah i can see....

lets take a look at ur sig for a moment..

oh look.. "no Parties = No grinding"

so much for that.... :banghead:

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I just wanted to point out, even though no one really wants to hear it, Venus is currently the legit haven. There are still bots there, just like on any server, but not in the mass amount like on the other servers. Also, I wanted to point out that party grinding is much much faster then soloing as a bot, so most of the legit's get up to level really quickly. The end cap doesn't matter, because those who grind their ticket in a fully functioning 8 man party can achieve it in a matter of weeks.

yeah i can see....

lets take a look at ur sig for a moment..

oh look.. "no Parties = No grinding"

so much for that.... :banghead:

Yea, my schedule prevents me from partying atm. 12 hour shifts at work + coworkers having children = no time to form parties. xP My days off involve laundry and working on my car. xP

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I just wanted to point out, even though no one really wants to hear it, Venus is currently the legit haven. There are still bots there, just like on any server, but not in the mass amount like on the other servers. Also, I wanted to point out that party grinding is much much faster then soloing as a bot, so most of the legit's get up to level really quickly. The end cap doesn't matter, because those who grind their ticket in a fully functioning 8 man party can achieve it in a matter of weeks.

yeah i can see....

lets take a look at ur sig for a moment..

oh look.. "no Parties = No grinding"

so much for that.... :banghead:

Yea, my schedule prevents me from partying atm. 12 hour shifts at work + coworkers having children = no time to form parties. xP My days off involve laundry and working on my car. xP

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Even if they cant go to chi-in tomb, they can still go to Roc Mountain or stay on Rockies until mid 90s.

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 Post subject: Re: The End of Legits?
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When 100Cap comes out Silkroad will become "I Am Legend".
Venus = Survivors Colony.
Babel = New York.
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HA 100% of these "Legits" still playing on any other server other than Venus are Illegit. If you a legit and your still in another server your a retard. pack up and leave.

Whoever says Legits will end hasnt seen Venus yet ;)

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Theres only one reason that legits would turn into bots, annoyance at the leveling speed. But lets consider a few things.

1. Asymaru got from lvl 80 - 90 in what, 2 weeks? Thats hardly slow at all
2. Legit Euro parties *cough venus* will dominate any grinding zone so theres hardly a worry about being KS'd
3. Party grinding is actually fun, its really enjoyable and so theres no need to bot if your having fun, right?

The results? Get to cap quickly while still having a lot of fun doing so. Learn something along the way, meet great new friends and have some awesome group pvp's afterwards.

Euros have been such a tremendous boon to the legits and they will only get strong with time.

Legits > Bots.

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Theres only one reason that legits would turn into bots, annoyance at the leveling speed. But lets consider a few things.

1. Asymaru got from lvl 80 - 90 in what, 2 weeks? Thats hardly slow at all
2. Legit Euro parties *cough venus* will dominate any grinding zone so theres hardly a worry about being KS'd
3. Party grinding is actually fun, its really enjoyable and so theres no need to bot if your having fun, right?

The results? Get to cap quickly while still having a lot of fun doing so. Learn something along the way, meet great new friends and have some awesome group pvp's afterwards.

Euros have been such a tremendous boon to the legits and they will only get strong with time.

Legits > Bots.

Simple as that.

+1 on that. Plus I wanted to add that higher lvl euro parties on Venus just murder bots that ks, and continue grinding. There is little problem with ksers on Venus. xP

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Venus is only one server of Silkroad. How many servers does Silkroad consist of? About 30? So just because Venus does pretty well, it is not the end of "legits" on Silkroad? I don't see the logic there.

Of course there will always be some players who play by the rules, but if you're still playing thinking the situation can't get any worse and it will get better...

The whole pile into one server thing only made the dying process faster.


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When 100Cap comes out Silkroad will become "I Am Legend".
Venus = Survivors Colony.
Babel = New York.
Turks = Infected People.



loved this definition.



didnt kno about those "obstacles" in chin' tomb.. but if we know bots as much as we think, we know they'll improve their macros and programs to surpass all that.

idk, but if the worst is goin to come, all we can do is move to only one server and make an "island" in sro.

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I just wanted to point out, even though no one really wants to hear it, Venus is currently the legit haven. There are still bots there, just like on any server, but not in the mass amount like on the other servers. Also, I wanted to point out that party grinding is much much faster then soloing as a bot, so most of the legit's get up to level really quickly. The end cap doesn't matter, because those who grind their ticket in a fully functioning 8 man party can achieve it in a matter of weeks.

even a full chinese party is faster then solo, but damn if it doesn't eat up pots, must add cleric and bard then better then solo

and solo grind if done correctly can be almost as fast as party grinding, plus the fact you dont' have to wait an hour or 2 for a party to get every one you need, aoe grinding is the way to go, hybrids work wonders at it, bet glaives would too, grab all the mobs around at once then aoe skills them to death, pure int can get overwhelmed even in snow + s/s doing this but should find a good high spawn spot so they can always aoe and hit more then one. Plain and simple a human can grind better then a bot ever could hope to.

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I just wanted to point out, even though no one really wants to hear it, Venus is currently the legit haven. There are still bots there, just like on any server, but not in the mass amount like on the other servers. Also, I wanted to point out that party grinding is much much faster then soloing as a bot, so most of the legit's get up to level really quickly. The end cap doesn't matter, because those who grind their ticket in a fully functioning 8 man party can achieve it in a matter of weeks.

yeah i can see....

lets take a look at ur sig for a moment..

oh look.. "no Parties = No grinding"

so much for that.... :banghead:

Yea, my schedule prevents me from partying atm. 12 hour shifts at work + coworkers having children = no time to form parties. xP My days off involve laundry and working on my car. xP


yea ok, you mean you couldnt party since i wasnt around :roll:

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Zero_Doom wrote:
I just wanted to point out, even though no one really wants to hear it, Venus is currently the legit haven. There are still bots there, just like on any server, but not in the mass amount like on the other servers. Also, I wanted to point out that party grinding is much much faster then soloing as a bot, so most of the legit's get up to level really quickly. The end cap doesn't matter, because those who grind their ticket in a fully functioning 8 man party can achieve it in a matter of weeks.

even a full chinese party is faster then solo, but damn if it doesn't eat up pots, must add cleric and bard then better then solo

and solo grind if done correctly can be almost as fast as party grinding, plus the fact you dont' have to wait an hour or 2 for a party to get every one you need, aoe grinding is the way to go, hybrids work wonders at it, bet glaives would too, grab all the mobs around at once then aoe skills them to death, pure int can get overwhelmed even in snow + s/s doing this but should find a good high spawn spot so they can always aoe and hit more then one. Plain and simple a human can grind better then a bot ever could hope to.




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yea ok, you mean you couldnt party since i wasnt around :roll:

Now that you are back, I am considering getting a gold ticket again. :love:

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yea ok, you mean you couldnt party since i wasnt around :roll:

Now that you are back, I am considering getting a gold ticket again. :love:

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Why would it be impossible to bot in chi tomb?

Because of the size and floors, as well as the obstacles/puzzles/barriers in the tomb already, but w/e BloodyBlade clearly has a better understanding then I because I have never seen a lvl100 bot in the tomb.. :)


Somehow I think your wrong. Its called reverse return scrolls n im sure the bot coders have been working along time since ksro got the Ch'in Tomb maps to map out every x n y n where the shit is. Lets just face it, if its on a computer it can be reversed. If you dont like bots dont play pc games lol. Go play console at least there u can only get glitchers xD

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Why would it be impossible to bot in chi tomb?

Because of the size and floors, as well as the obstacles/puzzles/barriers in the tomb already, but w/e BloodyBlade clearly has a better understanding then I because I have never seen a lvl100 bot in the tomb.. :)

Lets imagine this. Silk buyer > Shitloads of silk > buy shitloads of Reverse Return scrolls > dont need to spend shitload of time to run to his grind spot. Happy?

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K, never mind the fact iv actually spoken to bot programmers who dont even want to start to contemplate the prospect of programing the tomb do its size and obstacles :roll: you have to remember that the tomb has puzzles which you must solve to move into deeper chambers, and we have already seen it takes 30mins to walk to a grind spot the 1st time around, so they are cant just go afk with reverse return scrolls till they have gotten to a chamber thats free and has a good spawn, not to mention when actually grinding the bot can get stuck :shock: cuz that never happens now does it..

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K, never mind the fact iv actually spoken to bot programmers who dont even want to start to contemplate the prospect of programing the tomb do its size and obstacles :roll: you have to remember that the tomb has puzzles which you must solve to move into deeper chambers, and we have already seen it takes 30mins to walk to a grind spot the 1st time around, so they are cant just go afk with reverse return scrolls till they have gotten to a chamber thats free and has a good spawn, not to mention when actually grinding the bot can get stuck :shock: cuz that never happens now does it..


Puzzles? Whats your source please for that info. Also if the programmers havent started working on this yet (which i highly doubt) and if you have spoken to them (which i highly doubt) then they will just get fired because Ch'in Tomb has been out in ksro for almost a year. There will be a working bot within about 1~2weeks of Ch'in Tomb just watch. Think what u want but one will show up. Hey and even if it doesnt coem till like 6 months after, the point is there will be one eventually so you just have to live with it.

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The topic was on wether or not 100 cap is the end of legits, I am stating why I disagree why that, there is a video on kSro of an archer doing a tour of the tomb to medusea's room, which involved opening coloured boxes and obtaning keys to open additonal rooms, im sure a bot will be devolped eventualy, but it wont be immediate and will most certainly not be perfect once it is created and will certainly have bugs
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I belive is the video which gives a detailed look inside the cave and how to navigate it, not to mention the countless threads there have been about this with various parts of information about the cave and its layout as well as the monsters inside.

EDIT:http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=89184&p=1152157&hilit=+tomb#p1152157
Has an example of the keys that im talking about which you need to accsess items and rooms inside the tomb.

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When 100Cap comes out Silkroad will become "I Am Legend".
Venus = Survivors Colony.
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Rofl, that was epic.

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so everytime u have to solve a puzzle. Thats stupid. Anyway ty for the info n we will see

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+1 there is soooo much potential but they just dont do anything with it..oh well

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