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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:51 pm 
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No one is being selfish. Put it this way, lets say you bought a car for $50,000 with hard earned cash. Now, what if the same company that sold you the car GIVES me the same exact car for free. How would YOU feel? Get my point?

Obviously it's only $20 were talking about, but its your money that you've spent. Its like saying, "Lets give out free premiums because some people never had em. The payed user(s) enjoyed it, so lets give non-silk buyers free premium!!"

I dont see why there's a need to complain about.
U never go to the super market and buy smt with special offer bonus, that before u didnt get?
If i understand correctly, ur trying to say that it's unfair that the non silk buyer has the same advantage as silk buyer. Like the super market example above, who wouldn't be upset when they buy a food and the next day it has promotion -50% price? But that's life and u must accept it. The seller has the right to do whatever he wants with his product, even giving it free.
Luck and bad luck are basing on your own decision. U chose to buy silk, no one forced you. And it's irreasonable if u complain other's fault.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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I would not care at all.

I brought that car knowing perfectly well in my mind that this is the car i want. I'm happy with buying it for $50,000 and i want to conduct this purchase. Now after i have acquired the car and they want to give it to someone else, they can. If someone else gets a free car it doesn't effect me and my driving experience at all, i still get what i wanted. Actually in all honesty i would want them to give free cars away to people, $50,000 is a lot of money and most people won't feel the happiness that i do for owning such a nice car. This way other people get to own one when they couldn't before and i will draw happiness out of that.

And you really are being selfish and resentful. Just because someone does a nice deed in this world you get pissed off because it doesn't benefit you in anyway. How about you be happy that some other people in this game aside from you get something they have always wanted, ok? The world doesn't revolve around you mate, start to realize that. Chances are they will be trade able and you can sell the suits you pick up for gold ( since you have one already ) and as a result you will gain something from it. Oh but thats not good enough for you, is it?


Like i said, no one is being selfish. People spend their money to get something THEY want, so wait please explain how is that selfish? Because you worked for YOUR money to spend what YOU need. These people are not spending a single dime to get something that YOU worked for.

Let me put it this way:

I'll go to college, study my ass off, get a good paying job, work my ass off, buy a million dollar home.

See i deserve my "million" dollar home because i worked for it, just like i have a job and i worked for my silk.

Now lets say:

Some one else doesn't go to college, doesn't have a good paying job, doesn't work his ass off, but gets a FREE million dollar home, because someone felt it's a good deed.

:banghead:

(I was using homes as an example)

I don't care if its free, and has blues i could care less. I'm just trying to prove a point for those that care.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:56 pm 
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I really don't see why people are complaining, I've had the wizard suit loved it and don't give a shit if people are getting it for free, it gives a chance to people who don't have the ability to buy them the chance to have them. You may say you're not being selfish but you are.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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I really don't see why people are complaining, I've had the wizard suit loved it and don't give a shit if people are getting it for free, it gives a chance to people who don't have the ability to buy them the chance to have them. You may say you're not being selfish but you are.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:13 pm 
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Like i said, no one is being selfish. People spend their money to get something THEY want, so wait please explain how is that selfish? Because you worked for YOUR money to spend what YOU need. These people are not spending a single dime to get something that YOU worked for.

So you bought silk and u didnt get what you want?

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Let me put it this way:

I'll go to college, study my ass off, get a good paying job, work my ass off, buy a million dollar home.

See i deserve my "million" dollar home because i worked for it, just like i have a job and i worked for my silk.

Now lets say:

Some one else doesn't go to college, doesn't have a good paying job, doesn't work his ass off, but gets a FREE million dollar home, because someone felt it's a good deed.

:banghead:

(I was using homes as an example)

I don't care if its free, and has blues i could care less. I'm just trying to prove a point.

I know what ur trying to say. But this world have lots of unfairness.
Some people is more lucky than others
Some people is less lucky than others
But why get mad when u achieved your goal?


An example:
Person A : "Yes, i win 1000000 USD in a gamble game yesterday!"
Person B : "**** you! I worked hard for 40 years to get that much money #@!"


Maybe in some ppl eyes, JM is curseful, but to some other ppl, it is generous.

God in my religion has a phrase: "Be happy because ppl around you is happy, not because you are happy". It means that, no matter how unlucky you are, try to congratulate other ppl when they are happy, dont whine because the world is full of unfairness.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:26 pm 
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Like i said, no one is being selfish. People spend their money to get something THEY want, so wait please explain how is that selfish? Because you worked for YOUR money to spend what YOU need. These people are not spending a single dime to get something that YOU worked for.

So you bought silk and u didnt get what you want?

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Let me put it this way:

I'll go to college, study my ass off, get a good paying job, work my ass off, buy a million dollar home.

See i deserve my "million" dollar home because i worked for it, just like i have a job and i worked for my silk.

Now lets say:

Some one else doesn't go to college, doesn't have a good paying job, doesn't work his ass off, but gets a FREE million dollar home, because someone felt it's a good deed.

:banghead:

(I was using homes as an example)

I don't care if its free, and has blues i could care less. I'm just trying to prove a point.

I know what ur trying to say. But this world have lots of unfairness.
Some people is more lucky than others
Some people is less lucky than others
But why get mad when u achieved your goal?


An example:
Person A : "Yes, i win 1000000 USD in a gamble game yesterday!"
Person B : "**** you! I worked hard for 40 years to get that much money #@!"


Maybe in some ppl eyes, JM is curseful, but to some other ppl, it is generous.

God in my religion has a phrase: "Be happy because ppl around you is happy, not because you are happy". It means that, no matter how unlucky you are, try to congratulate other ppl when they are happy, dont whine because the world is full of unfairness.


Alright i see how you view it. I wasn't viewing it this way at all.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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Like i said, no one is being selfish. People spend their money to get something THEY want, so wait please explain how is that selfish? Because you worked for YOUR money to spend what YOU need.

Its selfish that you think that they shouldn't receive a gift. You worked for what you got and so you enjoyed your wizard suit, i understand and respect that. I myself own many avatar suits and cherish each one of them and the hard work i did to buy them. Now some people are getting a gift and your complaining. Just because this gift doesn't benefit you in any way and it's something you once bought you feel it shouldn't be given out? Its so selfish to think like that. If you cant see that then i wont bother convincing you anymore. I'm done.


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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:08 pm 
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NuclearSilo wrote:
[SW]XMoshe wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Hey, no one forced you to buy, and they have the right to offer free stuffs.


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Not sure if your avatar girl = your sig girl...But your sig girl looks fugly there =/ hehe

stfu
If u are not capable to identify if they are the same person or not, u have no right to judge their beauty o.o


It's my opinion, maybe she's cute on other shots but that pic is just...ewwwww

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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Like i said, no one is being selfish. People spend their money to get something THEY want, so wait please explain how is that selfish? Because you worked for YOUR money to spend what YOU need.

Its selfish that you think that they shouldn't receive a gift. You worked for what you got and so you enjoyed your wizard suit, i understand and respect that. I myself own many avatar suits and cherish each one of them and the hard work i did to buy them. Now some people are getting a gift and your complaining. Just because this gift doesn't benefit you in any way and it's something you once bought you feel it shouldn't be given out? Its so selfish to think like that. If you cant see that then i wont bother convincing you anymore. I'm done.



I never said they shouldn't receive a gift. Neither was i complaining, like you claim. I was merely debating with you on how unfair it was for those who bought and spent their money, against those who haven't and received the same treatment. I wasn't viewing it your way until nuclear explained, but i see what you guys mean.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:28 pm 
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I have bought the Wizard suit also, and I have no anger at all towards JM. If anything, it makes me excited to grind, and get the suits for my other characters. I think the majority of people feel this way.

Plus it looks like we'll be able to trade these suits.


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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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I have bought the Wizard suit also, and I have no anger at all towards JM. If anything, it makes me excited to grind, and get the suits for my other characters. I think the majority of people feel this way.


Yep + event suits won't have stats.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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It's my opinion, maybe she's cute on other shots but that pic is just...ewwwww

It's because you are european, blue eyes, white skin so u look other race differently, like a cat see a human, all looks the same. Like I see all african girls they look all the same. Even the most beautiful star african, i cant find her beautiful

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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NuclearSilo wrote:
[SW]XMoshe wrote:
It's my opinion, maybe she's cute on other shots but that pic is just...ewwwww

It's because you are european, blue eyes, white skin so u look other race differently, like a cat see a human, all looks the same. Like I see all african girls they look all the same. Even the most beautiful star african, i cant find her beautiful

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Yep + event suits won't have stats.

Where's that info come from?


^^Jm knows ppl wouldn't buy suits for silk if they can get the same for free :)
(eg mask/job suits/santa suits/... they have place for stats but it's disabled)

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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Blurred wrote:
Like i said, no one is being selfish. People spend their money to get something THEY want, so wait please explain how is that selfish? Because you worked for YOUR money to spend what YOU need. These people are not spending a single dime to get something that YOU worked for.

So you bought silk and u didnt get what you want?

Blurred wrote:
Let me put it this way:

I'll go to college, study my ass off, get a good paying job, work my ass off, buy a million dollar home.

See i deserve my "million" dollar home because i worked for it, just like i have a job and i worked for my silk.

Now lets say:

Some one else doesn't go to college, doesn't have a good paying job, doesn't work his ass off, but gets a FREE million dollar home, because someone felt it's a good deed.

:banghead:

(I was using homes as an example)

I don't care if its free, and has blues i could care less. I'm just trying to prove a point.

I know what ur trying to say. But this world have lots of unfairness.
Some people is more lucky than others
Some people is less lucky than others
But why get mad when u achieved your goal?


An example:
Person A : "Yes, i win 1000000 USD in a gamble game yesterday!"
Person B : "**** you! I worked hard for 40 years to get that much money #@!"


Maybe in some ppl eyes, JM is curseful, but to some other ppl, it is generous.

God in my religion has a phrase: "Be happy because ppl around you is happy, not because you are happy". It means that, no matter how unlucky you are, try to congratulate other ppl when they are happy, dont whine because the world is full of unfairness.

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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joymax is giving players a free sample of what its like to have an avatar suit in hopes that their sales will go up ^^

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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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:S dont see why people are making examples with cars/houses... we all know new car/house cost a lot, over time price drops lol

wiz suit when new cost something, now the price dropped :D

besides, you should know company you are buying into... its joymax... you expect they consider keeping people happy?


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 Post subject: Re: I want my 175 silk back -.-
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Blurred's example wasnt that good imho.
Its more like this:
You work your ass off to get a promotion, but you dont know all your efforts are in vain, coz the other guy/girl is the friend of the main hr manager or whatever and he/she WILL get that dam promotion, not you.
This is more like this.
Buying silk is one thing, also, jm can do whatever he wants, but this is a wtf for me.
Dumping old suits to ppl for free is unstylish, uncreative and imma i wont buy silk anymore if those suits can be blued.
Period.
I have a bad habit: I dont work togheter with idiots... and when someone prooves he is one, he is a goner in my eyes.

Nuclear/other's who dont complain:

With minimal effort JM could do some rly good free dress for the playes, like pumpkin knight, jason mask, whatever. That would be stylish and creative but right now i think its the opposite.

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they could either start giving out avatars they selling for free and lose all future business ... or they will have to make a greater distinction between the sold ones and the free ones.


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I think the ability to get these items both male and female and be able to trade them is proof enough they won't be able to have the same blues on them. They could very well have shitty blues on them or something though. Like + 2 Str and Int on chest, +1 each on Hat and 25% HP Recovery on Broom.

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It's my opinion, maybe she's cute on other shots but that pic is just...ewwwww


offtopic, id do them both lolz,

on topic , joymax can do as they like, if you payed for yours and someone gets it for free.... so what,life sucks get a helmet

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I saw this in a sig...
Lv 90 S/S Hybrid [Active]
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......play this game much? dang......

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they could either start giving out avatars they selling for free and lose all future business ... or they will have to make a greater distinction between the sold ones and the free ones.


Or perhaps its to give the users a 'taste' of the benefits you get from buying an avatar suit. So that way you buy a real one. We'll see in a few hours. lol

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So here we go.
I wont buy silk anymore:)
A few mins and i open the same topic on the official site.

ps:
im still happy to see all my guildies getting these set...its a pity they get it this way :x

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I'm not sure if this was mentioned but those that are complaining bout the free suit, did you even take into consideration that by paying a mere $20 got you the suit ONE YEAR EARLY?

Take the car example, one guy might have gotten the car for free but it doesn't mean the car is still worth as much as when the guy bought it a year earlier.

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Omfg people... U CAN ADD BLUES TO THE EVENT HALLOWEEN SUIT, JUST LIKE AL THE OTHER (PAYED FOR) AVATAR ITEMS.

So quit with the "u cant add blues" bullshit, because U CAN ADD BLUES to halloween suit...
Just check it for yourselfs sjeez :roll:

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I don't know why you're complaining. Out of 400+ boxes I've got...
- MASSIVE amounts of dodging scrolls(yay)
- a broomstick and a hat that fit me, then 2 opposite gender hats and 3 opposite gender broomsticks. Not a single chest, yet.

So do not tell me it's unfair. I'm giving my best in parties to get a chest, but I can't. <_<

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