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									|  Post subject: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:28 pm  |  |  
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					| Hello to all you alchemy freaks out there.wanted to ask how many stones it takes you usualy, on avarage, to get a crit 8+.
 coz i bought myself a 80+7 bow yesterday, and used 60 chall stones on it so far.
 never got the crit above 6, and assimilated mag, str, atack rat, block rat(parry) >.>
 so, how much stones does it usualy take you xD?
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:32 pm  |  |  
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					| LillDev!l wrote: Hello to all you alchemy freaks out there.wanted to ask how many stones it takes you usualy, on avarage, to get a crit 8+.
 coz i bought myself a 80+7 bow yesterday, and used 60 chall stones on it so far.
 never got the crit above 6, and assimilated mag, str, atack rat, block rat(parry) >.>
 so, how much stones does it usualy take you xD?
 tough question, I have unbelievable luck before like my lvl 80 weapon from a crit 2- 13 in 1 stone, then on my lvl 85 weapon it took me about 80-85 stones to go from a crit 5- 12, all depends on luck and whites are the hardest stat to change and crit or br being the toughest of all._________________
 
   
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:40 pm  |  |  
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					| MidnightMan wrote: LillDev!l wrote: Hello to all you alchemy freaks out there.wanted to ask how many stones it takes you usualy, on avarage, to get a crit 8+.
 coz i bought myself a 80+7 bow yesterday, and used 60 chall stones on it so far.
 never got the crit above 6, and assimilated mag, str, atack rat, block rat(parry) >.>
 so, how much stones does it usualy take you xD?
 tough question, I have unbelievable luck before like my lvl 80 weapon from a crit 2- 13 in 1 stone, then on my lvl 85 weapon it took me about 80-85 stones to go from a crit 5- 12, all depends on luck and whites are the hardest stat to change and crit or br being the toughest of all.br is quite easily here_________________
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			| OmniGuy | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:41 pm  |  |  
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					| on my 85+7 bow i made a batch of 23 stones, 7 was the highest... then i made another batch, and then it went 2-10 (80%).
 So 24 stones.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:42 pm  |  |  
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					| There is no average amount of stones. Its really a matter of each item and each stone.  I have stuggled as you are with alchemy, and I have also used 3 stones to change a br from 10 to 18. 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:46 pm  |  |  
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					| Well, I used 4 or 5 stones to make 10cr on a 85 bow (it had assimilated previously 4>8, but 8 wasn't enough for me     )
 
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			| Hellraider | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:54 pm  |  |  
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					| 60m on challenge stones (about 60 orso) to get c8 after assimilating to c2 on a 85+7 bow >_> 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:57 pm  |  |  
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					| CeLL wrote: There is no average amount of stones. Its really a matter of each item and each stone.  I have stuggled as you are with alchemy, and I have also used 3 stones to change a br from 10 to 18. 
 Good luck.
 And char...Some chars have more luck than others >.<_________________
 
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			| LillDev!l | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:02 pm  |  |  
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					| XMoshe wrote: CeLL wrote: There is no average amount of stones. Its really a matter of each item and each stone. I have stuggled as you are with alchemy, and I have also used 3 stones to change a br from 10 to 18. 
 Good luck.
 And char...Some chars have more luck than others >.<guess im kinda unlucky then xD  used 81 stones now, still never got over crit 6 >.> ffs... it better go crit 12 when i reah 100  _________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:25 pm  |  |  
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					| I had some odd experiences with crit...
 Lv68 back at 80cap, try and make my daggers crit go above 10. 3 stones, it was 22. Lv72 daggers was 2 stones to 21.
 
 
 Lv85 2H was 60 stones, highest was 7. It assimilated phy atk down from 41%.... I used like 10 courage stones, went from 22%->61%, and assimilated crit from 4->12.
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:27 pm  |  |  
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					| I spent over 500 mil on stones and still have shitty crit on my bow.. 6 
 
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			| LillDev!l | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:51 pm  |  |  
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					| w000t after a lil over 100 stones it went crit8, ill leave it there... still need to fix str and a few other things though... BUT mag assimilated to 80%   (from 52% to 0% to 42% to 0% to 80%) XDDD_________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:09 pm  |  |  
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					| I hate making crt. Really hard, so far spend well over 150 stones on my xbow and crit didnt passed 14   .  Friend made 18 crit on his xbow with about 100 stones._________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:44 pm  |  |  
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					| After over 100 stones, my crit went crit 8. and in 3 (10%) str stones, it assimilated again... what a joke     _________________
 
 
 
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			| LillDev!l | 
				
									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:04 pm  |  |  
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					| lol, got crit back up from 4 to 8 now, but assimilated mag this time >.> 80% >22%. ill just leave the bow like this, i keep assimilating, cant make it perfect  _________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:22 pm  |  |  
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					| rofl man! ur bow sux, buy a new one or wait some time   _________________
 
   
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:46 pm  |  |  
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					| Sometimes no assimilation, sometimes all the time assimilation...
 Cap 80:
 My old sword (72+7) went str 4 -> 5 in 1 stone!!, all blues were now +100%
 My shield (72+7)on the other hand didn't go above str4... but i assimilated br from 14 -> 18 with str stones :p
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 Later, I got crit 15 on sun glavie (9d) with 2 stones ><
 & If u don't believe, search my topic about sun drop (Yihaa, finally sun drop)
 
 My brother never tries to change his crit, he always buys & cheap bow (with crit 8 or more), make full blue & never ever does his crit assimilate... it's incredible
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:09 am  |  |  
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					| HolyPure wrote: rofl man! ur bow sux, buy a new one or wait some time   its the best 80 bow on troy, i can live with it for now xDD but yea, it sure is a stubborn bitch xD_________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:34 am  |  |  
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					| noopie, did u get that gold from giving back the sun   ? and u should have used it on a 85+7 T.T noopie
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:46 am  |  |  
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					| used 1 on my sword and got crit 12=]
 
 usually 100+ tho =.=
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:29 am  |  |  
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					| Hello guys i have a question.. whats the high  crit on a spear u ever seen??? 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:59 am  |  |  
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					| parcksy wrote: Hello guys i have a question.. whats the high  crit on a spear u ever seen??? Normal spear, crit 16 (+100%) I have a lvl 3 spear with crit 16   
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:38 am  |  |  
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					| Bop wrote: noopie, did u get that gold from giving back the sun   ? and u should have used it on a 85+7 T.T noopielol ^^ the guy who i gave the sun back to gave me 100m, and i had 130 in the bank myself. And ill get an 85+7 once i get there again, which wont be anytime soon ^__^  _________________
 
 
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:24 pm  |  |  
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					| good luck, i just cant put a crit > 8 on my sos 76 bow. almost givin it up. 
 no wonder theyre called challenge stones;
 
 4 > fail > fail > fail > 4 > 6 > 6 > 6 > 4 > fail fail fail > 7 "hmmm should i keep it?" > 4 "oh damn".
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					| C17   But thats a D8+5 sun glaive.  I bought it for one of my guildies. He helped me a lot     so i tought, why not? It was only 280kk anyway.  Listen and learn. The magic word is: "pleaaaaseeeeeeee" This works wonders. Idk why, but turks tend to accept your noobish offers if you write a long and cute "pleaaaaaaaseeeeeee"   d8+5 sun Bow, c16 also, in the hands in my guildmate, but he bought it for himself. And im working on my nop d9 som bow right now T_T Crit went from 5 to 5, and... mag attack assimilated to 0%_________________
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 viewtopic.php?f=2&t=103978
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					| iGod wrote: I spent over 500 mil on stones and still have shitty crit on my bow.. 6 ...arr i though that my 114mill on my blade crit was the max that someone have ever spend,crit never went more than 8,so i tried another stone when it was 8 and...puff 8--->1! so i said fack alchemy till lv 80 xD_________________
 
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:05 am  |  |  
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					| 19 crit stones on my 85+7 glaive end result was 12 started with 9. _________________
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									|  Post subject: Re: Crits on bows  Posted:  Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:48 am  |  |  
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					| 23 for crit 4 -> 6, never went higher then 6 so yeah screw alchemy ^^ _________________
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