Question about Venus

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

Barotix wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

misterfister wrote:

and one more thing didnt nightbloom and fly get ban from xian for botting?

srf has gone past the point of caring for those lies sadly.

nightbloom and fly were icons, now they seem 2 fit in the catagory many others occupy, botters

Past and present are not synonyms.

Yet one always follows the other.

Couldn't resist. Doubt it applies to the situation, but I said it!

salmissra · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1487 **Location:**

RogueKiller wrote:

Quote:

2. Yes the rules of the Confederation may seem a bit harsh BUT everyone within the legit unions have no problem abiding by them. We know that they are necessary to maintain more order within the server.

Are they really?
Giving away your freedom is required to achieve your goal of a legit server?

freedom? this is a game right, if you dont want to give away your freedom then DONT JOIN the damn confederation plox.

and you all are making the confederation sound like some nazi organization bent on destroying people's freedom when it makes it sooo much easier to have a good time on venus. if i hadn't join the union i'd be stuck lvling alone or with random turks who dont know how to play their builds ..

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

ping_lo wrote:

salmissra wrote:

+1

1. WHY is everyone b1tching about this? This only affects you if you play on VENUS, any other servers..please GTFO.

FYI what some legits do on venus can impact the image of legits everywhere. Sad situation but true.

salmissra wrote:

2. Yes the rules of the Confederation may seem a bit harsh BUT everyone within the legit unions have no problem abiding by them. We know that they are necessary to maintain more order within the server.

Wait I am in and I question it. The big thing for me that really is ruining trying to spend some time on SRO is who the fark should I party with and how the frell it will reflect on everyone else. As someone who does not play daily or hardcore it is a bit much to ask that we remember absolutely every union and guild etc. Fun is fun but that sort of stuff can still harsh a buzz. Trust me if every time I am on I am asking is it ok to be with so and so I would quickly get ignored I am sure. It is all part and parcel of why I am not on that much. I know it is a matter of time till I fark up on accident lol. So it just kinda is meh.

There are a total of 4 Unions(BLD, BHA, FBL, and AVA). I don't think it's hard to remember 4 Union emblems. As for the fringe guilds that are without union it shouldn't be to difficult to just ask if the guild in question is white listed.

Quote:

Giving away your freedom is required to achieve your goal of a legit server?

I'm going to list the rules of Venus in shorthand; I want you to explain how each one "robs" Venus players of their freedom. Keep in mind; the Venus rules find their roots in the ToS.

Don't bot.
Don't buy Gold.
Don't use third party programs.
- [I.E.] Programs not allowed by Joymax. Obviously something like Xfire wouldn't fall under this rule.
Don't get powerlvled by botters & and don't party with botters (excluding dis party)
- This requires some explaining: The rule is basically there to prevent the botters from having fun. This game is all about having fun; if one wants a legit server for legits then one mustn't give the botters breathing space. I don't see how this is new or radical. It was done in 60 and 70 cap. Why can't it be applied now?
The last rule: *Anyone above 40 that does not have a guild will be considered illegitimate.
- This is a new addition to the confederation; one that has it's pros and cons.

salmissra · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1487 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

ping_lo wrote:

salmissra wrote:

+1

1. WHY is everyone b1tching about this? This only affects you if you play on VENUS, any other servers..please GTFO.

FYI what some legits do on venus can impact the image of legits everywhere. Sad situation but true.

salmissra wrote:

2. Yes the rules of the Confederation may seem a bit harsh BUT everyone within the legit unions have no problem abiding by them. We know that they are necessary to maintain more order within the server.

Wait I am in and I question it. The big thing for me that really is ruining trying to spend some time on SRO is who the fark should I party with and how the frell it will reflect on everyone else. As someone who does not play daily or hardcore it is a bit much to ask that we remember absolutely every union and guild etc. Fun is fun but that sort of stuff can still harsh a buzz. Trust me if every time I am on I am asking is it ok to be with so and so I would quickly get ignored I am sure. It is all part and parcel of why I am not on that much. I know it is a matter of time till I fark up on accident lol. So it just kinda is meh.

There are a total of 4 Unions(BLD, BHA, FBL, and AVA). I don't think it's hard to remember 4 Union emblems. As for the fringe guilds that are without union it shouldn't be to difficult to just ask if the guild in question is white listed.

also once you start lvling, you will quickly know who is in your lvl range. you will probably be lvling with the same people. it's only hard at lower lvls but by the time your lvl 60+ it's quite easy.

Axie · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:53 am

well the thing is you are being in the legit guild, union u mostly party and for party ur guildmates or unionmates so most of the time you are partying with them and most of the bot unions and guilds have known logos the rest fall under bot category because it is just impossible to know all the bot guilds and players and especially guildless players since we can not monitor them to know if they are legit or not. Thats y theres no 40+ guildless partying rule so if they turned out to be bots people get kicked out of the guilds so we chose not to party with them and consider them as bots. And ONCE AGAIN NO WE DO NOT PK GUILDLESS PLAYERS FFS :banghead:

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

Lets start betting how many pages b4 it's locked

Axie · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:56 am

sama98b wrote:

Lets start betting how many pages b4 it's locked

i say 8 pages this topic is full of win

nvm 10 cause this went downhill

Interpol · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:58 am

Not singling you out, but this

sama98b wrote:

Lets start betting how many pages b4 it's locked

and similar posts are uncalled for. Don't be part of the problem. Let there be more open discussions on things that matter.

Panu · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 3536 **Location:** Around

i too hate avalon ... fack them all

DarthMaul · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 188 **Location:** lol

sama98b wrote:

Lets start betting how many pages b4 it's locked

11

iseedeadpeople · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 276 **Location:**

_Panu_ wrote:

i too hate avalon ... fack them all

Why? because they build a home for the rest of your fellow legit players to play, or because...

The rules of the confed are reasonable, pretty much same as the ToS from JM, only thing is the rules are ENFORCED on venus, i can understand why its hard for some people to understand since there so used to joymax, but its okay, all is well don't be frightened now, their there to help you enjoy the game again.

ping_lo · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 911 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

There are a total of 4 Unions(BLD, BHA, FBL, and AVA). I don't think it's hard to remember 4 Union emblems. As for the fringe guilds that are without union it shouldn't be to difficult to just ask if the guild in question is white listed.

You might be surprised. The more you are on sure but I am only on a few times a week at best right now with the holidays.

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

ping_lo wrote:

Barotix wrote:

There are a total of 4 Unions(BLD, BHA, FBL, and AVA). I don't think it's hard to remember 4 Union emblems. As for the fringe guilds that are without union it shouldn't be to difficult to just ask if the guild in question is white listed.

You might be surprised. The more you are on sure but I am only on a few times a week at best right now with the holidays.

under 40 there are too meny legits to keep track of. thats why our rules allow alot of freedom to players under 40. its the period where u learn whos who and what the rules are. over 40 your expected to take some responsibility for your actions. over 40 most players are part of the 4 unions, and those that are not are well known to most players so if you were in a pt with one of them, the pt members would let you know he/she is legit.

we tried to make a system as fair as possible. its not perfect, but its also open for all legits to debate and fix if they have a good seggestion. the senate represents all legit unions and membership is very easy to get.

as long as you follow the basic rules of no botting, no bot parties of any kind, and no out of game transactions, you can level from 1-90 without even noticeing the confederation is even there and still be considered legit.

and no you dont need to be part of any guild to be legit. if you want to stay solo, simple inform the confed and get your account onto the whitelist before u hit 50. or u can make a solo guild and join the legit storage guild list.

Panu · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 3536 **Location:** Around

iseedeadpeople wrote:

_Panu_ wrote:

i too hate avalon ... fack them all

Why? because they build a home for the rest of your fellow legit players to play, or because...

The rules of the confed are reasonable, pretty much same as the ToS from JM, only thing is the rules are ENFORCED on venus, i can understand why its hard for some people to understand since there so used to joymax, but its okay, all is well don't be frightened now, their there to help you enjoy the game again.

i guess i forgot my sarcasm ... :banghead:

im in avalon numnut :banghead:

mike2007 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1672 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

"Something is not white is not necessary black"

if you are not a part of the solution then you are a part of the problem. in other words if u arent gonna help fight the bots just by getting your guild whitelisted or joining a pre-existing whitelisted guild then u obviously dont give a shit about what happens to the server. that is the kind of attitude that is what has turned every other server besides venus into a shithole plauged by bots, gold buyers, pk2 exploiters, their supporters and other scum.
u try to act smart, but ur logic is flawed.

AznFury · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:19 am

always a choice to do whatever you feel like in this game whether it's accepted or not.

do the dew!

Belgarath · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1745 **Location:**

My 2 cents. Majority of you are fucking retards. The rest of you are fucking morons

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

Belgarath wrote:

My 2 cents. Majority of you are fucking retards. The rest of you are fucking morons

i agree with your point of view good sir.

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:49 am

Fly wrote:

Belgarath wrote:

My 2 cents. Majority of you are fucking retards. The rest of you are fucking morons

i agree with your point of view good sir.

i think your both stupid

and this thread is stupid

and this whole damn section is stupid

Belgarath · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1745 **Location:**

XemnasXD wrote:

Fly wrote:

Belgarath wrote:

My 2 cents. Majority of you are fucking retards. The rest of you are fucking morons

i agree with your point of view good sir.

i think your both stupid

and this thread is stupid

and this whole damn section is stupid

I'm over it. Let's throw a party?

Oh wait, I suppose I should say something relevant so the thread will stay open.

Venus. Avalon. Fly. Venus. Avalon. Fly.

Lowis · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 570 **Location:** Trolling

XemnasXD wrote:

Fly wrote:

Belgarath wrote:

My 2 cents. Majority of you are fucking retards. The rest of you are fucking morons

i agree with your point of view good sir.

i think your both stupid

and this thread is stupid

and this whole damn section is stupid

/Pi · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 4592 **Location:**

Guild A: We only accept thieves!
Player 1: Sure. I'll switch right away.

Guild B: Sorry buddy, we only take Chinese...
Player B: Fine. Do you know any guild that accepts both race or just Europeans?

Union C: Turks only plys. Turks only.
Player C: *strides along*

Union D: Bots only!
Player 4: Where can I get it?

Union E: Legits only!
Player 5: WHAT?! You morons! You're robbing off my freedom! This is injustice! This is not fair! Why can't I choose what I want to do? Stupid rules. I'll go bitch about it in a forum or something.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

Belgarath wrote:

My 2 cents. Majority of you are fucking retards. The rest of you are fucking morons

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[SD]Kratos · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4787 **Location:**

Pi won this thread

SoAyame · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 694 **Location:**

XemnasXD wrote:

Fly wrote:

Belgarath wrote:

My 2 cents. Majority of you are fucking retards. The rest of you are fucking morons

i agree with your point of view good sir.

i think your both stupid

and this thread is stupid

and this whole damn section is stupid

Quote:

I lol'ed so hard xD PWNED

iseedeadpeople · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 276 **Location:**

_Panu_ wrote:

iseedeadpeople wrote:

_Panu_ wrote:

i too hate avalon ... fack them all

Why? because they build a home for the rest of your fellow legit players to play, or because...

The rules of the confed are reasonable, pretty much same as the ToS from JM, only thing is the rules are ENFORCED on venus, i can understand why its hard for some people to understand since there so used to joymax, but its okay, all is well don't be frightened now, their there to help you enjoy the game again.

i guess i forgot my sarcasm ... :banghead:

im in avalon numnut :banghead:

whoops

rawr1337 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:36 am

NuclearSilo wrote:

http://forum.igamelegit.com/announcement.php?f=51&a=8

Some comments:

Quote:

3.
5.
6.

Some ppl are very good friends in the game. But one has given up and turned into bot. By respecting that rule, the friendship is broken.

Quote:

7. You only can (create or join) party 8/8 with these guilds http://forum.igamelegit.com/announcement.php?f=51&a=7

There are more than 50 guilds. Seriously who would waste time to check the guilds list everytime he wants to train in pt share?

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8. ... Starting at mujigis and up(lvl 40+), all share parties must be 100% legit confederation approved guilds

lol, i'm I under your control or what?

Quote:

**Anyone wearing 6th degree gear and up(lvl40+), and is not in a legit confederation guild is considered a bot. Being in a share party with them will result in a ban.**

Decode their thought: if you are lvl 40+ and guildless, or create your own guild would be considered a bot. It's gay, isn't it?

I don't know what kept you endure these rules, but seriously this is not different than a dictator government. All your acts are under their control and you have to ask them every time you want to do smt. Game is the freedom, when you can't do smt in real life, you'll realize that in game you can do whatever you want (and face the consequence). Guild is not an obligation. If they don't want you in guild, you can quit. Ppl who're "scared to banned" are just childish. Especially Fly/NB can't ever control me

I'll let them know that their guild need me, not I need their guild :wink:

Honestly, it's because of these kind of legit that it gives other legits more despair than hope.

If you still not understand what I said about the dictator and control of your freedom, you must be immature or doesn't have enough brain to get rid of the control.

/no flame plz

"So wait.. am I allowed to play with the colored boy or no?"

I think I could sum up alot.. SRF has become a bitch-fest. With people spanning across 30+ servers, this is the one place they can all get together and bitch and moan about how shitty the game is, how shitty certain players are, and how shitty people treat others. This is just another topic to complain about.

This thing on Venus doesnt affect me other than the complaints that seem to leak onto SRF.

Thanks 'Feds for tossing us into SilkRoad's version of the U.S. South.

Avalonian · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 49 **Location:**

im going to say 1 last thing in this thread. nightbloom i warned you about D2A.

NIGHTBLOOM: I TOLD YOU SO

you always brag on SRF how about awesome D2A is and how you "collect smart people". you remember the old days too right Grimjaw? u mention about it yesterday too Rawrz LOLz.

nightbloom wrote:

I have a smart ppl collection.

nightbloom wrote:

I told you I collect smart ppl.

^^

Say what you want about D2A, he is wicked smart.

nightbloom wrote:

Of course. I collect smart ppl.

D2A is wicked smart and can figure out anything. Put him and Cruor together and its awe inspiring.

Fly wrote:

death2all will remain as a good contributer to our wiki, maps, and game information community. if you dont like that, bend over, suck my dick.

and for the record, d2a is too busy with school to bot on a game he quit a year ago. its a pvp character. get the fck over it.

thanx to grimjaw for reminding me of those quotezzz

i warned you about him. aparently u "collected smart people" who was to smart for your own good.. yur own existence. i warned you about all the things he did in this game. do you think d2a is stupid and not plan everything out and have all his bases cover like everyone else and not record the convo to protect himself after u screw over so many peepzz?

you and fly used to asskiss d2a all the time, so now you got what u deserve. now you are bashing everyone for "listening to d2a". LOlzzzzz Rawrzzzz u are a laughing stock hahahahaRRR

on topic: the union rule is okay but needs a lot of tweaking.

off to phoenix... bye my fellow Venusians <3 <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

iseedeadpeople · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 276 **Location:**

Avalonian wrote:

im going to say 1 last thing in this thread. nightbloom i warned you about D2A.

NIGHTBLOOM: I TOLD YOU SO

you always brag on SRF how about awesome D2A is and how you "collect smart people". you remember the old days too right Grimjaw? u mention about it yesterday too Rawrz LOLz.

nightbloom wrote:

I have a smart ppl collection.

nightbloom wrote:

I told you I collect smart ppl.

^^

Say what you want about D2A, he is wicked smart.

nightbloom wrote:

Of course. I collect smart ppl.

D2A is wicked smart and can figure out anything. Put him and Cruor together and its awe inspiring.

Fly wrote:

death2all will remain as a good contributer to our wiki, maps, and game information community. if you dont like that, bend over, suck my dick.

and for the record, d2a is too busy with school to bot on a game he quit a year ago. its a pvp character. get the fck over it.

thanx to grimjaw for reminding me of those quotezzz

i warned you about him. aparently u "collected smart people" who was to smart for your own good.. yur own existence. i warned you about all the things he did in this game. do you think d2a is stupid and not plan everything out and have all his bases cover like everyone else and not record the convo to protect himself after u screw over so many peepzz?

you and fly used to asskiss d2a all the time, so now you got what u deserve. now you are bashing everyone for "listening to d2a". LOlzzzzz Rawrzzzz u are a laughing stock hahahahaRRR

off to phoenix... bye my fellow Venusians <3 <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Preeeeeeee sure your off topic.
gtfo with you anti NB shit.

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

:o So many posts gone since last night.

But basically I'll say again what I said before:

You cannot judge Venus and it's ways unless you played on it. For the war vs Epic I went to Venus for the day and got invited to come look at Eye Peak area. And well .. I was amazed 3-4 8/8 parties killing stuff amazingly fast all TALKING and all having fun ( Making fun of me : ( )

This ? This is what happens when you bring in STRICT guidelines which many people are urged to obey. It might seems ridiculous for many seeing as they play on dead servers wear the most action is a 8/8 bot pt where 6 of it's members have been laying dead on the floor for 10 hours. If you think it is sooo crazy than piss off and leave them be. Fact is your server will never be as active as Venus. Hell my server .. it's shit too but I cba to re-roll on a server where I have no money

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