Theory? What theory, Silo. It was tried on Hera; ask them how they're doing. It was tried on Odin; last I checked it's no longer a legit server for legits. People did try your method for nearly 2 years and now we have a game infested with cheaters. Is that what you want silo? A server that slowly turns into a botter's paradise. You want to know how "awesome" a bot server is? Buy a premium and log into Babel. If cheating is against the rules you really expect us to want to play with them? If you knew someone always cheats at poker would you want to play with him? If you know someone always used world builder in Civ IV to stack his sieges would you want to play with him? People don't want to play with cheaters. Common sense, silo.
I am sorry, but I will have to correct you about the Odin part. Odin did not fall apart because lack of strict rules or not shunning people who are 40+ guildless or whatever other nonsense. It fell apart because our leader (Ritual) had quit and gave leadership to someone who could not handle the job and let the guild die. We just had a great leader, but 2 weeks after he left the server fell apart.
That was just the last straw. The whole system was flawed in there. As soon as the guild fell apart, all the "legits" joined bot guilds.
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Theory? What theory, Silo. It was tried on Hera; ask them how they're doing. It was tried on Odin; last I checked it's no longer a legit server for legits. People did try your method for nearly 2 years and now we have a game infested with cheaters. Is that what you want silo? A server that slowly turns into a botter's paradise. You want to know how "awesome" a bot server is? Buy a premium and log into Babel. If cheating is against the rules you really expect us to want to play with them? If you knew someone always cheats at poker would you want to play with him? If you know someone always used world builder in Civ IV to stack his sieges would you want to play with him? People don't want to play with cheaters. Common sense, silo.
I am sorry, but I will have to correct you about the Odin part. Odin did not fall apart because lack of strict rules or not shunning people who are 40+ guildless or whatever other nonsense. It fell apart because our leader (Ritual) had quit and gave leadership to someone who could not handle the job and let the guild die. We just had a great leader, but 2 weeks after he left the server fell apart.
That was just the last straw. The whole system was flawed in there. As soon as the guild fell apart, all the "legits" joined bot guilds.
Most of them had not botted or used illegal programs until Berto had joined Dynasty.
I am sorry, but I will have to correct you about the Odin part. Odin did not fall apart because lack of strict rules or not shunning people who are 40+ guildless or whatever other nonsense. It fell apart because our leader (Ritual) had quit and gave leadership to someone who could not handle the job and let the guild die. We just had a great leader, but 2 weeks after he left the server fell apart.
That was just the last straw. The whole system was flawed in there. As soon as the guild fell apart, all the "legits" joined bot guilds.
Most of them had not botted or used illegal programs until Berto had joined Dynasty.
You see, that is the flaw in the system. It doesn't matter WHO leaves the community to bot or w/e, the Confederation would stand strong.
@Silo: What was the point of this thread again? You want us to allow everyone to do as they want and bot and do bot parties and bot plvls? You want Venus to do exactly what every other server does? What is the point in our creating such an environment, if we just wanna be like every other server in the end? Seems pointless to me.
Please go tell your parents, professor, and or boss that you help create a somewhat legit gaming server on a Korean based game Massively Multiplayer Online Roll Playing Game. Then tell them how your currently at war with the bots to keep the supremacy at bay. Also tell them how you learn a new magical skill that makes you run faster and how you just got +5 on your weapon. I think they will be so proud. Your taking this game too serious. Being legit should only be about if you bot or not. You should go check out almost ever other silkroad version. They all turned out to being bot ghost towns. All this work so you can brag that you created the best legit silkroad server ever is pointless.
@Silo: What was the point of this thread again? You want us to allow everyone to do as they want and bot and do bot parties and bot plvls? You want Venus to do exactly what every other server does? What is the point in our creating such an environment, if we just wanna be like every other server in the end? Seems pointless to me.
Please go tell your parents, professor, and or boss that you help create a somewhat legit gaming server on a Korean based game Massively Multiplayer Online Roll Playing Game. Then tell them how your currently at war with the bots to keep the supremacy at bay. Also tell them how you learn a new magical skill that makes you run faster and how you just got +5 on your weapon. I think they will be so proud. Your taking this game too serious. Being legit should only be about if you bot or not. You should go check out almost ever other silkroad version. They all turned out to being bot ghost towns. All this work so you can brag that you created the best legit silkroad server ever is pointless.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Whether you think this is a good idea or not is irrelevant. That point you just made is exactly why we play the way we do.
Now then, I don't come and criticize how you play on your server, and would expect the same from you. I don't really see why we on Venus harm every other server so much, that the legits from those servers come to a forum and bash us for doing something about the bots, which mind you everyone complains so much about? So instead of coming here, and flaming us for actually taking an action, why don't you just go sit and do nothing, like you were before?
Most of them had not botted or used illegal programs until Berto had joined Dynasty.
You see, that is the flaw in the system. It doesn't matter WHO leaves the community to bot or w/e, the Confederation would stand strong.
So your telling me that if Fly or nightbloom had become bots or joined bot guilds, your confederation would not be affected?
Do you honestly think 2 players turning into botters will cause 15 different guilds, 3 different unions, and several whitelisted guildless individuals to quit/bot. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The confederation is so heavily decentralized it ain't even funny.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Whether you think this is a good idea or not is irrelevant. That point you just made is exactly why we play the way we do.
Now then, I don't come and criticize how you play on your server, and would expect the same from you. I don't really see why we on Venus harm every other server so much, that the legits from those servers come to a forum and bash us for doing something about the bots, which mind you everyone complains so much about? So instead of coming here, and flaming us for actually taking an action, why don't you just go sit and do nothing, like you were before?
You see, that is the flaw in the system. It doesn't matter WHO leaves the community to bot or w/e, the Confederation would stand strong.
So your telling me that if Fly or nightbloom had become bots or joined bot guilds, your confederation would not be affected?
Do you honestly think 2 players turning into botters will cause 15 different guilds, 3 different unions, and several whitelisted guildless individuals to quit/bot. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The confederation is so heavily decentralized it ain't even funny.
Barotix, I wanna correct you here. Its a lot more guilds then that. 4 unions worth of guilds. That's at least 48 at the least... And then all the other whitelisted guilds.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Whether you think this is a good idea or not is irrelevant. That point you just made is exactly why we play the way we do.
Now then, I don't come and criticize how you play on your server, and would expect the same from you. I don't really see why we on Venus harm every other server so much, that the legits from those servers come to a forum and bash us for doing something about the bots, which mind you everyone complains so much about? So instead of coming here, and flaming us for actually taking an action, why don't you just go sit and do nothing, like you were before?
I don't play this god awful excuse for a game.
Then why do you deserve and opinion other then that? In your eyes, every server is just as bad as the next, simply because you don't like the game. Thanks for the clarification.
Please go tell your parents, professor, and or boss that you help create a somewhat legit gaming server on a Korean based game Massively Multiplayer Online Roll Playing Game. Then tell them how your currently at war with the bots to keep the supremacy at bay. Also tell them how you learn a new magical skill that makes you run faster and how you just got +5 on your weapon. I think they will be so proud. Your taking this game too serious. Being legit should only be about if you bot or not. You should go check out almost ever other silkroad version. They all turned out to being bot ghost towns. All this work so you can brag that you created the best legit silkroad server ever is pointless.
Waka waka, Silkroad is serious business menz. /endsarcasm
It is true that some people take this game too serious, but eh, I don't really care. They helped to make a game server enjoyable to a majority of people who so happened to play the same game. I play the game for entertainment, not some "war." You won't see me starting shit just to start shit, you won't see me globaling talking smack just because so and so did something I didn't agree with, and you won't see me talking down to someone for how they chose to play. That can't be said for everyone else, but since when don't some people take certain things too serious?
My ideals on this game are simple: You play how you want, and I'll play how I want.
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@Silo: What was the point of this thread again? You want us to allow everyone to do as they want and bot and do bot parties and bot plvls? You want Venus to do exactly what every other server does? What is the point in our creating such an environment, if we just wanna be like every other server in the end? Seems pointless to me.
Please go tell your parents, professor, and or boss that you help create a somewhat legit gaming server on a Korean based game Massively Multiplayer Online Roll Playing Game. Then tell them how your currently at war with the bots to keep the supremacy at bay. Also tell them how you learn a new magical skill that makes you run faster and how you just got +5 on your weapon. I think they will be so proud. Your taking this game too serious. Being legit should only be about if you bot or not. You should go check out almost ever other silkroad version. They all turned out to being bot ghost towns. All this work so you can brag that you created the best legit silkroad server ever is pointless.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Whether you think this is a good idea or not is irrelevant. That point you just made is exactly why we play the way we do.
Now then, I don't come and criticize how you play on your server, and would expect the same from you. I don't really see why we on Venus harm every other server so much, that the legits from those servers come to a forum and bash us for doing something about the bots, which mind you everyone complains so much about? So instead of coming here, and flaming us for actually taking an action, why don't you just go sit and do nothing, like you were before?
Because Venus it totally not ghost towns... Other Servers have town filled with bots, Venus has towns that are not even full. A server, which there is no competition for a Unique... sounds fun. The unique, which you can run out of pots, go to town, come back and still get the kill.
I'd rather share a server with bots than with half those pathetic rules. Though some of them are good, the rule that you are 40+guildless means your illegitimate sucks.
So your telling me that if Fly or nightbloom had become bots or joined bot guilds, your confederation would not be affected?
Do you honestly think 2 players turning into botters will cause 15 different guilds, 3 different unions, and several whitelisted guildless individuals to quit/bot. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The confederation is so heavily decentralized it ain't even funny.
Barotix, I wanna correct you here. Its a lot more guilds then that. 4 unions worth of guilds. That's at least 48 at the least... And then all the other whitelisted guilds.
The whitelisted guils I mentioned = the 15 I mentioned(I think there is more than 15, cba to check), and I said 3 unions because I believe a shift like that would mainly effect Ava. =]
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Venus has towns that are not even full.
Well, duh; people have to sleep, don't they?
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A server, which there is no competition for a Unique... sounds fun. The unique, which you can run out of pots, go to town, come back and still get the kill.
Of course the highest level Unique in the game is easy picking. There aren't many high levels around to kill it. Besides it was done at a time when people were sleeping, stalling, or grinding.
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the rule that you are 40+guildless means your illegitimate sucks.
The rule in question is not as bad as Mr.NuclearSilo made it out to be. In practice it doesn't really effect people.
Say for example you don't like any of the 4 unions, or the 15+ guilds that are white listed. IIRC individuals can be whitelisted and if you went from 1 - 40 legitimately the people you played with can and will vouch for you.
Im surprised this thread is still going. as some has said Venus has set up that "laws" and all that and if they're all happy living in that "Dictatorship" state its they problem. Just remember this is still a game and it has been made so you people have fun (Oh.. and take your money too) not feel like you are under control of someone etc etc etc.
Im surprised this thread is still going. as some has said Venus has set up that "laws" and all that and if they're all happy living in that "Dictatorship" state its they problem. Just remember this is still a game and it has been made so you people have fun (Oh.. and take your money too) not feel like you are under control of someone etc etc etc.
Unlimited, barrierless rule of one person or a group (party).
Government by a single person or group of peoplewho are in no way held responsible to the general population
A government led by a dictator or a despot. Dictatorships are more often than not totalitarian regimes, but there is also a benevolent dictatorship, which is by consent of the people
A confederation is a group of empowered states or communities, usually created by treaty but often later adopting a common constitution. ...
A group of people or organizations brought together for a common purpose.
Best one: group of sovereign states or communities that unite for one or more specific purposes, yet allow each state or community to act independently on all other purposes.
Because Venus it totally not ghost towns... Other Servers have town filled with bots, Venus has towns that are not even full. A server, which there is no competition for a Unique... sounds fun. The unique, which you can run out of pots, go to town, come back and still get the kill.
I'd rather share a server with bots than with half those pathetic rules. Though some of them are good, the rule that you are 40+guildless means your illegitimate sucks.
Where are you pulling these facts out? It is clear you don't play on Venus. Go look at constanstinople. It will have 10 times more people then any of your precious bot servers. Go look at uniques. You'll see at least 5 people spawn camping every on of them. Go back to your precious bots, bend over and take it up the ass like the good boy you are.
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11 Pages Silo... if after 11 Pages of replys you still dont understand why that rule is inplace, than i suggest you give up trying to understand, since it really does not affect you right?
11 Pages Silo... if after 11 Pages of replys you still dont understand why that rule is inplace, than i suggest you give up trying to understand, since it really does not affect you right?
If you read the whole thing, it isn't 11 pages. It's 1 page and the rest full of insignificant posts.
This one would be included since im not really putting anything into this thread that would help Silo understand the rule, since I don't even know the Confederation. Might check out Venus, when I click to see how populated Sparta is, that's how far I care about that server. So I say Silo, one who doesn't even play the game, should let them play by their rules. I don't see how it affects him/her at all.
Because Venus it totally not ghost towns... Other Servers have town filled with bots, Venus has towns that are not even full. A server, which there is no competition for a Unique... sounds fun. The unique, which you can run out of pots, go to town, come back and still get the kill.
I'd rather share a server with bots than with half those pathetic rules. Though some of them are good, the rule that you are 40+guildless means your illegitimate sucks.
Nah, seriously man, Go visit const, sam, and hotan on any other server, count the 2-3 people in each the come scope the towns out on venus, there are TONS of people with legits behind there chars going around doing there business. they are by FAR ghost towns, oh and the reason i mentioned hotan, all servers are really full there, but Venus's hotan has the most legit population running around...not just a massive bot line buying there shit in town.
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Since topic isn't closed yet after this much bs. Conclusion: srf = sra
Pre sure SRA is run by bots now? D2A and some other guy. i think you mean, igamelegit.com
yep maybe but funny name "igamelegit.com" by ex boters ...
The gaol of this topic was to separate fact from fiction. We all know when the word Venus is mentioned in GD the topic instantly turns into a "I hate Venus because of some rumors I heard/QQ." The goal here is to end that with this topic. Education of the willing.
The gaol of this topic was to separate fact from fiction. We all know when the word Venus is mentioned in GD the topic instantly turns into a "I hate Venus because of some rumors I heard/QQ." The goal here is to end that with this topic. Education of the willing.
Actually, whenever a topic is posted about players in search of a new server, the topic gets flamed with the "OMG JOIN 'VENUS' OR DIE" attitude; moreover, typing up an essay on why the server is so great. This may blow the chances for other semi-legit servers. Normally the non-Venus players will respond, and just tell em to shut the ƒuck up.
The gaol of this topic was to separate fact from fiction. We all know when the word Venus is mentioned in GD the topic instantly turns into a "I hate Venus because of some rumors I heard/QQ." The goal here is to end that with this topic. Education of the willing.
Actually, whenever a topic is posted about players in search of a new server, the topic gets flamed with the "OMG JOIN 'VENUS' OR DIE" attitude; moreover, typing up an essay on why the server is so great. This may blow the chances for other semi-legit servers. Normally the non-Venus players will respond, and just tell em to shut the ƒuck up.
I have seen those topics and it's rarely a Venus player that starts it. Usually the post is "InB4Venus" from a non-Venus player followed by libel and flames. Then the Venus player comes and another non-Venus player goes; "Here comes the Avalon Crew." Boom, insta-flame topic. It's actually really funny watching both sides get angry over little comments.
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Besides it was done at a time when people were sleeping, stalling, or grinding.
