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 Post subject: sp questions and HI general D
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:22 pm 
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First of all; HI! first topic :D
Second: I'm making a rogue/bard. The mmosite calculator says I need 600000sp for the build I want. (only going daggers cause I like the way they look, and bard so I might get some partyplay when I get higher lvls).

the nivlam sp chart says you get 272,568 sp by 1 gapping from 0 - 90.

So, my question is:
Am I understanding it correctly when I assume that with a skill gold time ticket, I would be getting the double; 540.000sp? and with the gold time ticket in addition, the triple; 810.000sp?

Or am I missing something?


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Well, if you have a sp ticket from 1>90 im guessing you will get double the sp, so you're right there. But using a gold ticket as well wont give triple. If you just buy a goldticket and grind from 1>90, u will still get 272,568 sp just at a faster rate.

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Fury wrote:
Well, if you have a sp ticket from 1>90 im guessing you will get double the sp, so you're right there. But using a gold ticket as well wont give triple. If you just buy a goldticket and grind from 1>90, u will still get 272,568 sp just at a faster rate.

Hope i helped.

Yeah, that makes sence, so I guess I'll have to farm a wee bit then.

Thank you for the fast and accurate reply! :love:


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don't forget that the sp and prem don't last 24 hours a day, only a limited time.

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GwaR wrote:
don't forget that the sp and prem don't last 24 hours a day, only a limited time.

thx for the tip!
I don't think it will be a problem tough, cause I doubt I will be able to play 3 hours every day. So some of the time I guess will be wasted :D


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U won't get 2 times as much sp with exp and sp ticket, u'll get 3/2 times as much sp.


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Jaapii wrote:
U won't get 2 times as much sp with exp and sp ticket, u'll get 3/2 times as much sp.


Jup that's right, I'll explain it tho.

If you buy a sp-ticket you get 100% sxp increase. That means 2 times as much sp from 1-90 if you take sp-ticket all the way. If you get next to the sp-ticket a premium or gold ticket. You'll get 3 times as much sxp but 2 times as much xp. That gives you 300 sxp to 200 xp. 300/200 is the same as 3/2 so you will get 1.5x amount of sp if you take premium/gold ticket + sp-ticket all the way to 90.


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 Post subject: Re: sp questions and HI general D
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ok, lets see if I understand you correctly.
For example: 1 gap from 0 to 90 gives you 100sp.
with just sp ticket: 200 sp
with both tickets: 150 sp

did I get it now?
Sry if I'm stupid now, but I can't seem to get my head around this :(


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RipCurl wrote:
ok, lets see if I understand you correctly.
For example: 1 gap from 0 to 90 gives you 100sp.
with just sp ticket: 200 sp
with both tickets: 150 sp

did I get it now?
Sry if I'm stupid now, but I can't seem to get my head around this :(


No..

Normal you get 100 exp/100 sp
With sp ticket only you get 100 exp/200 sp
With xp/sp ticket and sp ticket you get 200 exp/300 sp.

So it's basically the same as only a skill ticket but you get the exp/sp in 3 hours what you would normally get in 6 hours.

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quick run down,

if you 0 gap from 0-90 you'll get a little more the 200k sp

with a gold ticket you'll still get 200k sp but you'll just get there quicker

with a gold skill ticket you'll get 400k sp if you only pay 3 hours a day and no more

the regular gold ticket doesnt make you get more sp, it doubles your xp and sp so really grinding for 3 hours is like 6 hours, you wont make more sp you just get it faster, you'll still get 200k sp from 0-90 but just faster.

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Ok, thank all of you guys for helping me clear this up!


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 Post subject: Re: sp questions and HI general D
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XMoshe wrote:
RipCurl wrote:
ok, lets see if I understand you correctly.
For example: 1 gap from 0 to 90 gives you 100sp.
with just sp ticket: 200 sp
with both tickets: 150 sp

did I get it now?
Sry if I'm stupid now, but I can't seem to get my head around this :(


No..

Normal you get 100 exp/100 sp
With sp ticket only you get 100 exp/200 sp
With xp/sp ticket and sp ticket you get 200 exp/300 sp.

So it's basically the same as only a skill ticket but you get the exp/sp in 3 hours what you would normally get in 6 hours.


he was right...
100 exp = 200 sp with only sp ticket
with sp and gold 200 exp = 300 sp which is the same as 100 exp = 150sp^^

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